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Any other ladies whose cycles are shortened by Paleo?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 08, 2013 at 1:07 AM

When I was eating grains, my cycle was 28 days. When I eat 100% (no grains, no dairy) Paleo, my cycles are 21 days. When I cheat (maybe 80-90% Paleo, no grains, but dairy) my cycles start to stretch back out to 24-25 days. I have gone back and forth experimenting. What the heck is going on? It's not carbs or fat ... I've varied those as well, and no effect. I am guessing that something is going on with my estrogen ... anyone out there understand hormones better than I do?

I should also mention that my cycles pre-paleo were horrendous. On 90% paleo they are better but still a pain. On 100% paleo they are effortless.

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on February 12, 2013
at 02:53 PM

@RK We're going go have litters of children.

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on February 10, 2013
at 01:55 PM

Depends on your size, metabolism and activity level but for me, too low cal is less than 1400cals/day and too low carb is less than 60g/day; I would need to add 200 extra cals and 20g extra carbs if I did a weights or HIIT session. I'm 5'1'', mid-20s

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on February 09, 2013
at 04:39 PM

What would you say is too low cal/low carb?

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on February 08, 2013
at 06:01 PM

I do have a very strong response to dairy. It gives me brain fog and exhaustion. Fortunately I am not a milk drinker or yogurt eater by nature, so no loss. But I do miss a little cream in my coffee. I doubted that the tiny bit of dairy I do consume would have such a large effect on my cycles, but maybe so...

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on February 08, 2013
at 05:58 PM

August, my sleep is awesome. More so when 100% paleo. I'm one of those people with a rock solid circadian rhythm. I hate traveling even 1 time zone bc it messes me up! Dreading the daylight savings time approaching...

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on February 08, 2013
at 05:57 PM

Dragonly, interesting thought about the chronic abundance of food. I just noted that on another thread where I think that may be one of the causes of not losing that last 15 lb ... our bodies are taking advantage of the abundance to prep for the lean times, which never come. I just found it interesting that my cycle would jump around so quickly and predictably.

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on February 08, 2013
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That's a bit like leaping from the frying pan into the fire. You are swapping out milk, which was a least made for a mammals consumption for an industrial creation made with soy, which has phyto-estrogens in it. These phyto-estrogens are sure to push your hormone profile in a direction you don't want it to go long term. Then there's the issue of how it is made. Isn't it made with hexane? It is made with some kind of poison which is then allegedly removed, but anyway they've got to use it because soy isn't actually human food, so they rely on chemical reactions to make it edible.

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on February 08, 2013
at 04:54 PM

How is your sleep and exposure to light cycles? I can't really comment on this one because I am male and not a doctor, but I do find it interesting.

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on February 08, 2013
at 03:53 PM

Interesting thought you noted below about more frequent fertility, RK. Hunter Gatherers certainly would not have the chronic abundance of food that we have. In any case, 21-35 days is considered "normal" and 28 days is "average". No worries. If you stay consistent with your diet, over time, your cycle may lengthen a bit.

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on February 08, 2013
at 03:46 PM

I agree with Mandy. With normal hormone levels, cycles shouldn't shorten until you are close to menopause. Mine just started shortening 6 months ago and I am 50.

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on February 08, 2013
at 01:08 PM

Way too early for all of that!

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on February 08, 2013
at 12:56 PM

Thanks April, I'm going to try Vitex. It looks like it lengthens luteal phase, which I think is what I need (pretty sure I'm still ovulating around day 14). I actually tried progesterone cream for a month and it made me totally screwy, so I'm not going that route (and least not until I absolutely have to!).

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on February 08, 2013
at 04:57 AM

Amen. Even though more often, they are shorter, lighter, easier. I'll take it. Just in my mind I thought if anything they would lengthen out. Maybe our increased nutritional density is spurring on more frequent fertility, lol.

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I thought that too .. I'm 38. However, when I add other foods back in, they lengthen back out. I've gone back and forth toying with it. And I think we are still a little early for that. My mom's cycles started shortening about 45 .. and I have no other peri-menopause symptoms.

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on February 08, 2013
at 04:51 PM

I think that dairy has a lot of hormones in it (you are drinking milk of a cow who has just been pregnant and gave birth, think about it...), and cutting out milk based products just takes out a lot of female cow hormones you get from milk, hence normalizing your natural cycle, I know about it because it is the case with acne (from which I used to suffer) and after I swapped cow milk for soya milk I saw improvements as well, as acne is mostly caused by hormone imbalance. Hope it helps :-)

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on February 08, 2013
at 05:03 PM

That's a bit like leaping from the frying pan into the fire. You are swapping out milk, which was a least made for a mammals consumption for an industrial creation made with soy, which has phyto-estrogens in it. These phyto-estrogens are sure to push your hormone profile in a direction you don't want it to go long term. Then there's the issue of how it is made. Isn't it made with hexane? It is made with some kind of poison which is then allegedly removed, but anyway they've got to use it because soy isn't actually human food, so they rely on chemical reactions to make it edible.

32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

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on February 08, 2013
at 06:01 PM

I do have a very strong response to dairy. It gives me brain fog and exhaustion. Fortunately I am not a milk drinker or yogurt eater by nature, so no loss. But I do miss a little cream in my coffee. I doubted that the tiny bit of dairy I do consume would have such a large effect on my cycles, but maybe so...

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on February 08, 2013
at 06:25 AM

Mine seemed to have shortened to 25 days on average after a few months of eating paleo. Previously they were 28-30 days. I started taking vitex several months ago to help alleviate some PMS symptoms, and my cycle has returned to 28 days.

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on February 08, 2013
at 12:56 PM

Thanks April, I'm going to try Vitex. It looks like it lengthens luteal phase, which I think is what I need (pretty sure I'm still ovulating around day 14). I actually tried progesterone cream for a month and it made me totally screwy, so I'm not going that route (and least not until I absolutely have to!).

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7efe820ea2b10a1d2a78977ce7a4f215

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on February 08, 2013
at 03:39 AM

Mine shortened by a couple days, too. I used to run around 35 and now I run 31 like clockwork. That is new to me. I was always a bit sporadic, but almost immediately after starting paleo I became totally consistent. No idea why, but they are also lighter and more comfortable so I'm not asking too many questions.

32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

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on February 08, 2013
at 04:57 AM

Amen. Even though more often, they are shorter, lighter, easier. I'll take it. Just in my mind I thought if anything they would lengthen out. Maybe our increased nutritional density is spurring on more frequent fertility, lol.

7efe820ea2b10a1d2a78977ce7a4f215

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on February 12, 2013
at 02:53 PM

@RK We're going go have litters of children.

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Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

on February 08, 2013
at 02:54 AM

How old are you? I'm 33 and I've realized my cycles have gotten shorter over the past year. My understanding was just that when you age, you cycles shorten, but now that I'm thinking about it, they have gotten shorter since I started eating paleo a year ago. In the past year, I'd say I've been about 75% paleo. My cycles were always 28 days pre-paleo, practically down to the hour, now they are 25 or 26 days.

Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

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on February 08, 2013
at 01:08 PM

Way too early for all of that!

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on February 08, 2013
at 03:46 PM

I agree with Mandy. With normal hormone levels, cycles shouldn't shorten until you are close to menopause. Mine just started shortening 6 months ago and I am 50.

32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

(5802)

on February 08, 2013
at 04:54 AM

I thought that too .. I'm 38. However, when I add other foods back in, they lengthen back out. I've gone back and forth toying with it. And I think we are still a little early for that. My mom's cycles started shortening about 45 .. and I have no other peri-menopause symptoms.

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on February 08, 2013
at 01:14 AM

Yep, but my changes aren't as dramatic as yours. Mine shortened up by just a few days, down to about 25-26 days on average.

I have no clue why though... I would think that I've actually lowered my estrogen levels since going paleo, as I'm not eating any soy (estrogenic effects). Also, increasing fat and protein intake generally raises free testosterone, and I've also gotten into weightlifting somewhat seriously.

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on April 19, 2014
at 02:26 PM

Hmm...I'm new to paleo...and am really just researching so forgive me if I'm wrong....but paleo diet will increase protien intake generally yes? And I'm not sure what info you guys have...as in comon paleo knowledge etc...but generally short cycles are caused by low progesterone, and this problem (yes it is a problem, should not be accpeted as normal) is called luteal phase defect. It is often caused by not enough vitamin B6 in the diet....protien intake directly increases our need for B6...so if you guys increased your protein consumption from what it was before paleo maybe this is waht is causing your short cycles...myself I eat 250g to 300g of meat a day....this causes me to need 3.5mg - 4mg of B6 daily....which is twice what the recommended daily intake states.... website called bitelog is great for calculating how much vitamin you have ingested from your daily eatings and helping you to work out how to get enough

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on February 09, 2013
at 03:21 PM

Actually mine got longer. Pre-paleo they were very regular 28 days. Stopped for a 14 months (too low cals/carbs), had them back a year and the average is now 34 days, longest 40, shortest 31

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on February 09, 2013
at 04:39 PM

What would you say is too low cal/low carb?

68655ec9711d207d69a63ebf96b37573

on February 10, 2013
at 01:55 PM

Depends on your size, metabolism and activity level but for me, too low cal is less than 1400cals/day and too low carb is less than 60g/day; I would need to add 200 extra cals and 20g extra carbs if I did a weights or HIIT session. I'm 5'1'', mid-20s

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