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Paleo Spaces Project

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Created February 02, 2011 at 9:12 AM

Dear Forum

I work with architects and property developers, mainly taking ideas and presenting them as images or video even. A while ago I started communicating with a London based firm who took an interest in one my own ideas. The project has since been on hold, simply because I have been otherwise occupied.

Principally the idea behind the project was to develop spaces relating to what would be a natural human environment, but at the same time respecting the modern. This is an example of another scheme that I had started developing as an idea only:

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Very important ideas within this project were water, light, communal spaces and relax spaces. This was on an individual scale, the idea was to expand on these ideas and make it into a sort of retreat where say 20-30 people could be invited.
Perhaps from which Movnat-like or Cross fit courses could be run. I take alot of reference from this video of a Movnat workshop in Thailand.

We had been looking principally at Brazil, Ecuador or Costa Rica to develop the project, places of extreme beauty with both mountain and sea close; with consistent climate. I am very much interested in sustainable architecture, using the local resources.

alt text Tabasc??n, Costa Rica

alt text Los Frailes, Ecuador

alt text Limon, Costa Rica

alt text Monta??ita, Ecuador

There are several other ideas that I am looking into incorporating into the project, for instance, an orchard, livestock etc... Anyway, really I am looking for input, ideas. What is a paleo space? If anyone thinks they have anything they can offer me, any references, I would be extremely grateful. I need to put together a kick ass presentation. Thanks in advance!

edit to the project:

apart from the basic idea of making water / light / mixed indoor outdoor spaces important to the design: adding:

  1. A communal fire place
  2. Standing workspaces
  3. Squatting toilets
  4. natural / local materials An emphasis on recycled materials or even entire buildings

thank you everyone for the input, I am happy to hear any more ideas thanks again...

9e7039b63b656582f66d84c5255b436d

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on February 13, 2011
at 03:27 PM

everything helps, so thank you, ranch houses sounds like a good one, yes, I was somehow thinking of incorporating livestock and orchards into the project - although I would be careful about what was farmed. I will look into these ranch houses, flexible open interiors, yes sounds good.. Thanks again

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on February 13, 2011
at 12:58 PM

Part two of my comment: As far as I've seen, keeping rooms are pretty universal across cultures, and they feature a heating/cooking source, such as a fireplace or stove, as well as open and flexible seating. They all had windows in keeping with their building periods, so I would exploit that as the "window" by which to commune with nature features. This is lots of fun. Good luck with your project, and thanks for tolerating my musings.

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on February 13, 2011
at 12:58 PM

That helps - thanks. Then I'll add my >02: I would look to frontier style farm and ranchhouses for some inspiration. Those almost always had keeping rooms. That was the main space where people "gathered", cooking, eating, socializing, preserving and preparing foods, spinning, tool repair and crafting all took place (not to mention raising newborn livestock, such as chicks, lambs, calves and kids when needed).

9e7039b63b656582f66d84c5255b436d

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on February 13, 2011
at 07:58 AM

Well I take reference from projects like this for simplicity: http://www.archdaily.com/107872/rural-dining-javier-rodriguez-acevedo/ but for interior furnishing projects like this: http://www.thecoolhunter.net/article/detail/1826/bridle-road-residence--cape-town-south-africa thanks again

9e7039b63b656582f66d84c5255b436d

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on February 13, 2011
at 07:33 AM

thank you for pointing me to this, I am reading into it now, it sounds exactly on the right lines.

9e7039b63b656582f66d84c5255b436d

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on February 13, 2011
at 07:12 AM

"are you looking for Paleo lifestyle re-creation?": Not really paleo lifestyle recreation, just creating an ambience that takes reference from the hunter gatherer lifestyle, if we aren't evolved to eat modern foods, we probably aren't evolved to be in the human zoo either. Saiklón suggests having a fireplace to gather round in a communal space - which was good; I will look into the references you have given me, thank you.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on February 12, 2011
at 09:33 PM

That's awesome!

5b69a02dadcae753771921d913909215

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on February 12, 2011
at 05:35 PM

I know what you mean. I am going to move soon and want my new place to be as "paleo" as possible. Its not going to be 100% what I want, but it will have hard floors, plants, and flowing water... but I will probably have to stick with candles for fire. About organic but modern, I am 100% with you. I don't want fur or anything like that I need it to be more clean and sleek, like a leather couch for example.

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on February 12, 2011
at 05:29 PM

Patrick, the paintings link was fascinating. The most wanted paintings being with water/ocean/family/friends/animals; a natural landscape. The most popular paintings were all so similar, but the least favorite were all a mish-mash of nothing-ness.

9e7039b63b656582f66d84c5255b436d

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on February 12, 2011
at 05:01 PM

I'm into incorporating organic materials, but very much into respecting the modern too. I think the idea of an important fireplace is great, I hadn't thought of that, but yes absolutely, probably to cook on too. thank you, go ahead update me with further ideas... everything helps...

89e238284ccb95b439edcff9e123671e

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on February 02, 2011
at 12:18 PM

It is from that guy that did a TED talk.

9e7039b63b656582f66d84c5255b436d

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on February 02, 2011
at 11:05 AM

did the guy that did that do a lecture on TED? I seem to remember seeing something similar. It's excellent though! right lines, thanks Pieter

9e7039b63b656582f66d84c5255b436d

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on February 02, 2011
at 09:46 AM

well thank you for the suggestion Patrik, I am not sure I really understand their conclusions though. I think this is similar: http://www.ted.com/talks/denis_dutton_a_darwinian_theory_of_beauty.html

9e7039b63b656582f66d84c5255b436d

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at 09:29 AM

are the images I put in there visible? here is a link to the scheme I am referencing in the first case http://www.flickr.com/photos/_oliverh_/sets/72157622859550168/show/

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89e238284ccb95b439edcff9e123671e

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on February 02, 2011
at 11:00 AM

Oliver,

You have probably heard of these, but I find the 'green school' in Bali very nice!

paleo-spaces-project paleo-spaces-project paleo-spaces-project

More information on www.greenschool.org

I also like the concept, although it may there could be a bit too much wishful thinking...

89e238284ccb95b439edcff9e123671e

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on February 02, 2011
at 12:18 PM

It is from that guy that did a TED talk.

9e7039b63b656582f66d84c5255b436d

(1132)

on February 02, 2011
at 11:05 AM

did the guy that did that do a lecture on TED? I seem to remember seeing something similar. It's excellent though! right lines, thanks Pieter

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on February 12, 2011
at 09:33 PM

That's awesome!

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6b6fd8871edb729c22e3e8a44e17ec0f

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on February 13, 2011
at 04:25 AM

PERMACULTURE DESIGN.

From wikipedia: "Permaculture is an approach to designing human settlements and agricultural systems that mimic the relationships found in natural ecologies."

From Bill Mollison, a founder of permaculture: "Permaculture is a philosophy of working with, rather than against nature; of protracted & thoughtful observation rather than protracted & thoughtless labour; & of looking at plants & animals in all their functions, rather than treating any area as a single-product system. Permaculture is the study of the design of those sustainable or enduring systems that support human society, both agricultural & intellectual, traditional & scientific, architectural, financial & legal. It is the study of integrated systems, for the purpose of better design & application of such systems."

That's just what I immediately thought of upon reading your post. Look up permaculture, if it sounds interesting to you... it's illuminating and inspiring! (And it's what I am studying...)

9e7039b63b656582f66d84c5255b436d

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on February 13, 2011
at 07:33 AM

thank you for pointing me to this, I am reading into it now, it sounds exactly on the right lines.

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5b69a02dadcae753771921d913909215

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on February 12, 2011
at 04:41 PM

In my mind... it would have to incorporate open space, wood/stone floors, plants, water, fire... use stone and wood where you can rather than metal and plastic (appliances should be brushed metal I suppose). Also, dead animals might work, but they would have to be done very tastefully, something like a kudu horn on a over a fireplace (although I wouldn't appreciate it unless it was something I acquired myself). I say water and fire because both were very central to paleo life. Paleo man would have stayed near water out of necessity which is probably why the sound of flowing water is so beautiful to us. Fire, some argue, is what made us human in the first place. A large slow fan for a steady but subtle breeze. A nice view if possible or at least a view of a garden or something. Furniture would use organic materials, possibly from animals if done elegantly.

I might edit this later, I just wanted to get some ideas down.

9e7039b63b656582f66d84c5255b436d

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on February 12, 2011
at 05:01 PM

I'm into incorporating organic materials, but very much into respecting the modern too. I think the idea of an important fireplace is great, I hadn't thought of that, but yes absolutely, probably to cook on too. thank you, go ahead update me with further ideas... everything helps...

5b69a02dadcae753771921d913909215

(1457)

on February 12, 2011
at 05:35 PM

I know what you mean. I am going to move soon and want my new place to be as "paleo" as possible. Its not going to be 100% what I want, but it will have hard floors, plants, and flowing water... but I will probably have to stick with candles for fire. About organic but modern, I am 100% with you. I don't want fur or anything like that I need it to be more clean and sleek, like a leather couch for example.

9e7039b63b656582f66d84c5255b436d

(1132)

on February 13, 2011
at 07:58 AM

Well I take reference from projects like this for simplicity: http://www.archdaily.com/107872/rural-dining-javier-rodriguez-acevedo/ but for interior furnishing projects like this: http://www.thecoolhunter.net/article/detail/1826/bridle-road-residence--cape-town-south-africa thanks again

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on February 02, 2011
at 09:24 AM

Oliverh,

For inspiration, look at Komar and Melamid's "Most Wanted" Paintings. They surveyed what people wanted to see or not see in paintings and accidentally uncovered human preferences built not by culture, but by evolution.

http://awp.diaart.org/km/painting.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komar_and_Melamid

9e7039b63b656582f66d84c5255b436d

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on February 02, 2011
at 09:46 AM

well thank you for the suggestion Patrik, I am not sure I really understand their conclusions though. I think this is similar: http://www.ted.com/talks/denis_dutton_a_darwinian_theory_of_beauty.html

04293f705870e1837b8670d3c1cd5f67

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on February 12, 2011
at 05:29 PM

Patrick, the paintings link was fascinating. The most wanted paintings being with water/ocean/family/friends/animals; a natural landscape. The most popular paintings were all so similar, but the least favorite were all a mish-mash of nothing-ness.

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F1cd291cf9ba1ebd9a9db21d3dd09735

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on February 12, 2011
at 08:49 PM

I'm unclear: are you looking for Paleo lifestyle re-creation? Or spaces which incorporate hunter gatherer behavior? Something else?

The Graduate School of Design at Harvard University focuses on some of what you mentioned in your question. It might be a resource for you:

"Social Agency: addressing challenges of social and economic development, disaster relief, and anticipatory planning and design

Responsive Environments: exploring increased interaction between design and inhabitation at different scales

New Geographies: addressing emerging larger-scale design questions around the relationship between the built environment and physical geography

Sustainability in Design: interfacing between new scientific research on sustainability and design"

http://www.gsd.harvard.edu/research/index.html

F1cd291cf9ba1ebd9a9db21d3dd09735

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on February 13, 2011
at 12:58 PM

Part two of my comment: As far as I've seen, keeping rooms are pretty universal across cultures, and they feature a heating/cooking source, such as a fireplace or stove, as well as open and flexible seating. They all had windows in keeping with their building periods, so I would exploit that as the "window" by which to commune with nature features. This is lots of fun. Good luck with your project, and thanks for tolerating my musings.

F1cd291cf9ba1ebd9a9db21d3dd09735

(436)

on February 13, 2011
at 12:58 PM

That helps - thanks. Then I'll add my >02: I would look to frontier style farm and ranchhouses for some inspiration. Those almost always had keeping rooms. That was the main space where people "gathered", cooking, eating, socializing, preserving and preparing foods, spinning, tool repair and crafting all took place (not to mention raising newborn livestock, such as chicks, lambs, calves and kids when needed).

9e7039b63b656582f66d84c5255b436d

(1132)

on February 13, 2011
at 07:12 AM

"are you looking for Paleo lifestyle re-creation?": Not really paleo lifestyle recreation, just creating an ambience that takes reference from the hunter gatherer lifestyle, if we aren't evolved to eat modern foods, we probably aren't evolved to be in the human zoo either. Saiklón suggests having a fireplace to gather round in a communal space - which was good; I will look into the references you have given me, thank you.

9e7039b63b656582f66d84c5255b436d

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on February 13, 2011
at 03:27 PM

everything helps, so thank you, ranch houses sounds like a good one, yes, I was somehow thinking of incorporating livestock and orchards into the project - although I would be careful about what was farmed. I will look into these ranch houses, flexible open interiors, yes sounds good.. Thanks again

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