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High total cholesterol low hemoglobin

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Created May 30, 2011 at 4:45 PM

Hello, i just got back from phone with my doc and she was worried about total cholesterol, it was 12, used to be 5,5 half a year ago. And the hemoglobin is only 132 if i remember correctly. I took this test becourse i thought i might have some thyroid issues, but she said values looked "fine". I dont have any paperwork here so i am sorry to give this little information. Isnt 12 little high even in paleo norm? ;)

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on May 31, 2011
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Since you can easily boost HDL > 60 with trigs < 50s without any impact on LDL, wouldn't that be preferable? I mean, if you follow a traditional diet rather than doing the all meat thing that is what basically comes out of it.

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at 05:06 PM

Check your copper intake, shoot for at least the RDA. Known to cause both.

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on May 30, 2011
at 05:30 PM

12 mmol/l = 464.03712 mg/dl For us in the USA we get our readings in mg/dl and the mainsteam medical consider 200 as "healthy" 5.5 mmol/l = 212.68368 mg/dl

You have been eating high fat, moderate protein, and low carb I assume. No your level is just fine.

You have a typical mainstream medical doc who thinks that "high" cholesterol is going to kill you.

See Chris Kresser's video "I have high cholesterol and I don't care"
http://thehealthyskeptic.org/i-have-high-cholesterol-and-i-dont-care

He refers to a VAP test which will tell whether you have a preponderance of small dense LDL particles or a preponderance of large bouyant LDL particles. The sdLDL are the harmful particles and the large bouyant particles do no harm. Elimination of sugar and wheat products and all the other neolithic will convert/keep your LDL particles large bouyant.

There is also a NMR test that measures the LDL a different way to arrive at the ratio.

Do not let her talk you into a statin to lower TC. Do you realize your brain and every cell in your body needs cholesterol? Google side effects of statins. And folks with higher cholesterol levels live longer than those with low cholesterol levels.

And there are many studies that show there is no relationship between total cholesterol and cardio vascular disease and cardiac events.

Regarding hemoglobin, here in the US we measure in grams/ deciliter with a reference range of 13 to 18.

1 dL = 0.1 L

1 G/dl = 10 G/L

e.g. To convert hemoglobin in g/dl to g/l, multiply by 10

Dividing your 132 by 10 = 13.2 right on the cusp of low in the USA Can't help you there.

But you need to talk to her about your LDL ratios. But I can tell you from my personal experience, your total LDL is going to freak her out. Also find out what your HDL is which you want as high as possible over 60 (usa) and you want your triglycerides to be as low as possible under 60 (usa).

Good luck with your Primary Care Physician.

8f4ff12a53a98f3b5814cfe242de0daa

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on May 31, 2011
at 06:15 AM

Since you can easily boost HDL > 60 with trigs < 50s without any impact on LDL, wouldn't that be preferable? I mean, if you follow a traditional diet rather than doing the all meat thing that is what basically comes out of it.

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on September 07, 2016
at 09:00 AM

I know this is an old question but I will give an answer to help people with a similar problem. I know in Paleo circles that cholesterol isn't a villain, but 12 mmol/l = 464.03712 mg/dl is way too much. If anyone is getting such numbers, you probably are doing a Keto diet, which means moderate protein, high fat, very low carb( less than 50g). There are people who do well on Keto diets, but there are also people who have elevated LDL-C, LDL-P and total cholesterol.

You can totally solve this problem by eating more carbs. Add some fruit, some safe starches like sweet potatoes, yams (potatoes and white rice is okay for most people too), and your numbers will come down.

Cholesterol should be around 200 with a high HDL and low LDL-P. If you have TC around 150 you are too low and you need to eat more fat in your diet, as cholesterol protects against infections, brain damage and many more. But cholesterol is definately involved in atherosclerosis, so if your numbers are too high, it is cause for concern.

A diet based on fruit, vegetables, tubers, meat, seafood and eggs will give you a health cholesterol and a healthy body.

A final note: Ketosis is an adaptation humans have to survive without carbs. In our history we maybe would have been in ketosis during heavy winters or during shortages of food. But I firmly believe humans shouldn't do keto for ever. If you are seeing benefits from Keto, then go along and do it for a few months, but cycle it to avoid any drawbacks from going VLC for long periods of time.

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