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High Carb Paleo - do you feel hungrier?

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Created October 12, 2011 at 7:41 AM

Do you feel hungrier or more satiated on a high carb paleo diet?

I'm on a medium carb somewhat eating potatoes, taro, sweet potatoes and cassava.

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on April 15, 2012
at 12:33 PM

For me, carbs (even "fast" ones such as white rice) seem to keep the hunger away better than low carb. I feel like I'm not getting the great satiety from fat that people talk about. :-)

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on April 15, 2012
at 09:03 AM

Ever since increasing carbs, I actually have an appetite, which is amazing - I feel human again! I suppose I'm closer to a traditional foods diet, which works great for me. :-)

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on October 12, 2011
at 09:05 PM

Same happens to me, potatoes, sweet potatoes and specially taro and cassava are very filling for me.

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on October 12, 2011
at 07:18 PM

It ain't wonder bread for no reason :)

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on October 12, 2011
at 07:18 PM

Rockgrrrrrlll, not sure exactly but I think in some people the fiber especially the fiber with wheat and grains kind of just sits and rots and causes an inflammatory response. The reason I think it is an inflammatory response is because after going without vegetables and eating potatoes it is an overnight change in stomach tub. Interestingly white wonder bread doesn't do the same thing, I think in that scenario the highly processed nature allows things to break down normal.

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on October 12, 2011
at 07:14 PM

Absolutely Shari! My main point is that you need to listen to your body. Just because your feeling a extra hungry doesn't mean your going to wake up tomorrow with 10 extra pounds or diabetes. By all means do what works! Often our bodies are smarter than our minds! If it makes you feel better I was definitely freaked after 12 potatoes. But everything worked out in the end.

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on October 12, 2011
at 07:06 PM

This absolutely does not hold true for everyone. It may work for you but this is not a workable strategy for many of us.

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on October 12, 2011
at 06:00 PM

bloating maybe from all the fiber?

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on October 12, 2011
at 03:27 PM

Great comment but I'm curious, why does eating too many veggies give you belly fat?

D89511137c1849427593b3ef172578cb

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on October 12, 2011
at 02:04 PM

Good point Ben: medium carb of somewhat The Perfect Health Diet which is around 150-200g of carbs a day. I usually eat more protein than what the Jaminets recommend (they eat too low protein I can't cope with that).

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on October 12, 2011
at 01:12 PM

I'm hungry generally about an hour before my first meal, which is after fasting 16 hours without food. That's it.

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on October 12, 2011
at 01:10 PM

the difference between what you call medium and high needs to be expressed in something quantifiable to compare. How many grams of carb do you eat daily. I can tell you at 220 g - 250 g I get daily I have good solid energy all day long. 5'11" 174 lbs 32 male

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B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on October 12, 2011
at 11:14 AM

You've gone the distance and have committed to eating clean because it makes you feel better but then you are questioning your body's hunger. If you are hungrier and you are eating whole foods then listen to your body and eat more. It's likely you are hungrier because your giving your body something that it has needed and it wants more!

The first time I added white potato back to my diet I ate 3 potatoes and noticed almost immediately an insatiable desire to eat more. So I went through another 9 fairly larged sized potatoes that day. All my potatoes had plenty of butter and salt.

The next day I woke up with veins on my abs.

The only time I EVER put on abdominal fat is 4 things, 1) I don't eat enough 2) I eat too much vegetables 3) wheat 4) oil

If your eating junk food, then yes, don't listen to your body. But if you are eating what you know is healthy then eat till your full and eat when you are hungry. Eventually I think you'll find that the hunger goes away and you'll start to resume eating smaller amounts of food.

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on October 12, 2011
at 07:18 PM

It ain't wonder bread for no reason :)

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on October 12, 2011
at 07:06 PM

This absolutely does not hold true for everyone. It may work for you but this is not a workable strategy for many of us.

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on October 12, 2011
at 07:18 PM

Rockgrrrrrlll, not sure exactly but I think in some people the fiber especially the fiber with wheat and grains kind of just sits and rots and causes an inflammatory response. The reason I think it is an inflammatory response is because after going without vegetables and eating potatoes it is an overnight change in stomach tub. Interestingly white wonder bread doesn't do the same thing, I think in that scenario the highly processed nature allows things to break down normal.

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on October 12, 2011
at 03:27 PM

Great comment but I'm curious, why does eating too many veggies give you belly fat?

Af005ec9a8e028f2b04bf5367b64e0d6

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on October 12, 2011
at 06:00 PM

bloating maybe from all the fiber?

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on October 12, 2011
at 07:14 PM

Absolutely Shari! My main point is that you need to listen to your body. Just because your feeling a extra hungry doesn't mean your going to wake up tomorrow with 10 extra pounds or diabetes. By all means do what works! Often our bodies are smarter than our minds! If it makes you feel better I was definitely freaked after 12 potatoes. But everything worked out in the end.

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on October 12, 2011
at 12:53 PM

It depends on your metabolic flexibility. I have no problems with hunger ever for the most part but I'm a fit 23 yr old male YMMV. Generally starches are a lot more calorie poor than fats so making sure you get adequate calories is very important. 1tb of butter is about the same amount of cals as a big potato.

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on October 12, 2011
at 06:10 PM

For me it depends largely on the fiber content. If I eat mostly white rice, than yes I will be hungrier throughout the day, but if all my carbs are coming from potatoes, sweet potatoes, and lentils (I know, but they are a safe starch for me) than I have no hunger at all. It's funny how people always say that fat is very satiating but for me, I don't find that true at all, I could down buckets of sour cream and coconut oil without ever feeling satiated. Different strokes for different folks.

D89511137c1849427593b3ef172578cb

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on October 12, 2011
at 09:05 PM

Same happens to me, potatoes, sweet potatoes and specially taro and cassava are very filling for me.

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on April 15, 2012
at 12:33 PM

For me, carbs (even "fast" ones such as white rice) seem to keep the hunger away better than low carb. I feel like I'm not getting the great satiety from fat that people talk about. :-)

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on October 12, 2011
at 09:29 AM

Definitely hungrier. I experimented/am experimenting with eating potatos (plain, microwaved) as a staple at the moment and for the first time in a couple of years feel slightly hungry from my first meal to when I sleep. Adding fat in this context doesn't seem to alter hunger much, not eating the potato is the main means of avoiding hunger. I don't know why I'm surprised, since this has always been the way with me since before I started low carb, but I figured another test was deserved. I'll see whether I can make this way of eating work- perhaps by extending my fasts- for a bit before giving up, since eating potato for my main calorie source rather than butter very cheaply sorts out all my micronutition without having to buy (expensive) brocolli etc.

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on October 12, 2011
at 09:21 AM

Definitely hungrier. If I don't start the day with only protein and fats, by the mid-afternoon, I start craving platters of whole-wheat pasta with butter and cheese.

I keep my carbs under 130 gm total, with about 50 gm of fiber from avocado, nuts and seeds, vegetables and a little fruit. I will eat a slice or two of the Julian Bakery Smart Carb Bread to help add fiber toward the end of the day. This has really helped keep a lid on my appetite. If I eat anything more than 150 gm of carbs, I gain weight and tend to eat a lot more.

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on October 12, 2011
at 03:31 PM

More carbs definitely make me hungrier sooner. Even adding some fruit to my egg & bacon breaky gets me hungry late morning whereas I can usually last til early afternoon or longer.

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on October 12, 2011
at 06:52 PM

There's a short-term reduction in satiety following a meal containing carbohydrates vs. one that doesn't. If the meal that follows that one contains only meat, the effect is mitigated. This is an argument for the strategic allocation of carbohydrate-containing meals rather than an argument against the consumption of carbohydrates altogether. I'm not yet certain what the biochemical mechanism at play is, but I suspect that it's due to the large release of glucagon that occurs with protein ingestion but not carbohydrate ingestion, since both can cause a similar insulin release. Ghrelin levels don't appear to differ between the two. Leptin is actually greater following carbohydrate-rich meals, but it doesn't really have much of an effect on short-term satiety.

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on October 14, 2012
at 06:28 AM

Yep more carbs make me hungrier.

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on October 13, 2012
at 02:19 PM

Beware of the processed açai. If/When you come to Pará, taste the real thing. Then judge for yourself.

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on April 15, 2012
at 05:19 AM

A diet on the low end of the carb spectrum keeps you in ketosis which suppresses hunger.

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on October 12, 2011
at 07:27 PM

I ate a whole squash for dinner (roasted in olive oil, salt, and pepper) last night to see if this whole moderate/high-carb paleo thing might work for me. Alas, I was hungry an hour later. I'm sticking to lower-carb. I just feel so much better.

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on October 12, 2011
at 05:55 PM

Don't potatoes in general have high amounts of fiber. My experience is that eating potatoes, sweet potatoes and taro in abundance makes more fuller.

That's also the case when I eat some yogurt with maca powder, mesquite or flax/chia seeds. Fiber really fills me up.

Yesterday my breakfast were 2 fried eggs and some slices of bacon with some cheese and a bit of acai (so, very little carbs). I was getting hungry by lunch, which is rare to happen (I still eat lunch whether I'm hungry or not).

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