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Thinking about quitting paleo

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Created July 24, 2012 at 6:32 PM

I can honestly say that I don't feel any better than I did before, I have been about 6 weeks no grains, legumes dairy, eating plenty of fats and proteins with moderate veggies. I felt good before and I feel good now. The only difference has been a decent amount of leaning out. I went from about 6'1 - 187 8-9%bf to 182ish 7-8%. All of my lifts have also gone up THE SAME AS THEY WOULD on SAD diet..

I still ate quite healthy according to SAD before. Didn't drink pop, no candy, no white anything.

Everybody else here says they feel so much better now but I don't notice a difference.. any thoughts??

Fd70d71f4f8195c3a098eda4fc817d4f

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on July 26, 2012
at 07:14 PM

Do you disagree that plenty of people who "feel fine" for decades are stunned when they find out that "all of a sudden" they're diabetic or at risk for heart disease? I'm not saying the OP, specifically, is one of them. He already specified that his pre-Paleo diet was pretty good. My only intention was to suggest that maybe, just maybe, there were positive changes going on that he was unaware of, and those might influence his decision to stay with Paleo or not. (Just as there are negative changes people aren't aware of until "one day" they need medication.)

Fd70d71f4f8195c3a098eda4fc817d4f

(8014)

on July 26, 2012
at 07:13 PM

Do you disagree that plenty of people who "feel fine" for decades are stunned when they find out that "all of a sudden" they're diabetic or at risk for heart disease? I'm not saying the OP, specifically, is one of them. He already specified that his pre-Paleo diet was pretty good. My only intention was to suggest that maybe, just maybe, there were positive changes going on that he was unaware of. (Just as there are negative changes people aren't aware of until "one day" they need medication.)

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on July 26, 2012
at 02:50 PM

I don't know, Amy. Threatening a heart attack at 50 because you eat hot pockets and drink big gulps in your 20s sounds a little like fear mongering to me.

717ac8a668eec6c024186d46ff30b3c3

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on July 26, 2012
at 01:47 PM

A clean and straightforward guideline in eating. Well-said!

Fd70d71f4f8195c3a098eda4fc817d4f

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on July 26, 2012
at 12:39 PM

I'm not telling him to stick with it. I only suggested he think about getting some testing done *in case* there are improvements he's not even aware of that might help him make a more informed decision as to whether continuing to eschew certain foods is worth it. No skin off my back if he decides it isn't. No fear mongering here, only a suggestion.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on July 26, 2012
at 11:56 AM

It's funny how most folks are told to just do paleo for 30 days and see how much better they feel. Then when they finish their 30 days and have no real improvement, they're told that they really ought to stick with it otherwise it'll bite them in the ass 20+ years later...

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on July 25, 2012
at 03:20 PM

It's the second rule of paleo.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on July 25, 2012
at 03:19 PM

I think Arnold has also been known to sample the herb...

1096aa84d006fe967128ffbd37e8070e

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on July 25, 2012
at 04:48 AM

Great comment. I think age has loads to do with it! It seems like bad food has a cumulative effect on the body and mind.

C471216c9fb4fcf886b7ac84a4046b49

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on July 25, 2012
at 04:25 AM

pot is paleo +1 for phelps

0a9ad4e577fe24a6b8aafa1dd7a50c79

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on July 25, 2012
at 04:22 AM

At least Haagen Dazs is full fat dairy

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on July 25, 2012
at 03:19 AM

That's a the black diamond run straight to the bottom with lots of stumps. Hemp is the bunny hill with flowers and moonbeams. You still get to the bottom, but under a pleasant brain fog.

Bfa1c9eacfc94a1b62f3a39b574480c6

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on July 25, 2012
at 02:18 AM

I think this sums up the entirety of Paleohacks.

1c67bc28f4e44bbb8770b86df0463df3

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on July 25, 2012
at 02:03 AM

Pffft. If your going to eat wheat, EAT WONDERBREAD and NOT some artisanal, whole grain, nonsense. The wonderbread has all the bad stuff removed. Its all been put into the 'good' bread. Get a clue folks

C0237fd9e277fcef496d538beda1f35b

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on July 25, 2012
at 01:56 AM

It's kind of like "The Firm"

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on July 25, 2012
at 01:49 AM

I think the true sign of good health is having the metabolism to eat anything and thrive, like humans across the globe have done for thousands of years.

76e82f76e7e3ed9747c980b50fc51b25

(229)

on July 25, 2012
at 01:39 AM

Thanks, I have definitely learned a lot and I will be taking all this new knowledge forwards with me!

4929a87e3f7438f18a0afbdde291ed5e

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on July 25, 2012
at 12:56 AM

Great answer. I am one of the people that have reaped HUGE health rewards from Paleo. I often think to myself "Why did I not know about this sooner?" I could have saved myself years of agony....

C45d7e96acd83d3a6f58193dbc140e86

on July 24, 2012
at 10:28 PM

Good for you! Paleo helped me get to 5% BF and maintain it with consistent energy

76e82f76e7e3ed9747c980b50fc51b25

(229)

on July 24, 2012
at 10:12 PM

I think leaning out was the biggest draw factor for me. Lifts progressed the same as before.

76e82f76e7e3ed9747c980b50fc51b25

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on July 24, 2012
at 10:09 PM

Thank you all for the great comments!

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on July 24, 2012
at 09:42 PM

If you're going to eat wheat, at least make sure it's quality food. Handmade artisanal bread, not Wonderbread. Fresh pasta, not Kraft blue box macaroni.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on July 24, 2012
at 09:24 PM

Why hemp? Can't it be... Haagen-Dazs instead?

239bcbf6d0013fd74890f5c7305daf64

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on July 24, 2012
at 09:22 PM

+1 cause I spit out my the water I was drinking when I read your post. I then laugh till I peed myself...and then my dog ran away from me as if I had gone insane. That is hysterical!

46c9fbd45b82453f6a2dfe614a853314

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on July 24, 2012
at 09:11 PM

Technically, eating raw human face is paleo - no?

C45d7e96acd83d3a6f58193dbc140e86

on July 24, 2012
at 08:01 PM

@Dave....I think you covered the biggest chunk of gains available to eating paleo. Anything else pales in comparison to avoiding vegetable oils, soy and wheat.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

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on July 24, 2012
at 07:53 PM

Michael Phelps also smokes pot. But so did the Miami face eater.

A1a0baccef58499acf9ceb3c874997f2

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on July 24, 2012
at 07:51 PM

+1 for the giggles.

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on July 24, 2012
at 07:49 PM

Then hemp....then vegan....slippery slope....

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on July 24, 2012
at 07:42 PM

LOL - this is really funny. I got to remember, "No one quits Paleo."

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on July 24, 2012
at 07:04 PM

Not everyone needs to eliminate grains or dairy or legumes. Michael Phelps eats all that stuff (and more) and his performance speaks for itself. I would still consider avoiding vegetable oils, soy and wheat. Why? Veggies oils have a lot of n6, which is pro-inflammatory. Soy is estrogenic and you don't want that. Wheat, even if you tolerate it, is a poor source of nutrition (as are most grains). As you don't eat/drink sugar or flour, you are already way ahead of the game. Congrats!

1c67bc28f4e44bbb8770b86df0463df3

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on July 24, 2012
at 06:59 PM

if you quit.. the terrorists win!

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on July 24, 2012
at 06:55 PM

When you're already healthy what do you expect? Paleo might give you another 10% but won't turn you into superman. If you were fat, sick and nearly dead you'd see a lot bigger improvement. I'd much rather eat meat and exercise than drink the green Kool aid.

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877ded1787562057ee2e1a4548b6050a

on July 24, 2012
at 07:27 PM

You cannot quit. No one quits Paleo. The only way out of Paleo is in a body bag. Be careful what you post in here. They are watching you. Whatever you do, do not go back to SAD or CW diet. They will find out, and then they will find you....

A1a0baccef58499acf9ceb3c874997f2

(675)

on July 24, 2012
at 07:51 PM

+1 for the giggles.

C0237fd9e277fcef496d538beda1f35b

(287)

on July 25, 2012
at 01:56 AM

It's kind of like "The Firm"

239bcbf6d0013fd74890f5c7305daf64

(664)

on July 24, 2012
at 09:22 PM

+1 cause I spit out my the water I was drinking when I read your post. I then laugh till I peed myself...and then my dog ran away from me as if I had gone insane. That is hysterical!

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on July 25, 2012
at 03:20 PM

It's the second rule of paleo.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 24, 2012
at 07:42 PM

LOL - this is really funny. I got to remember, "No one quits Paleo."

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 24, 2012
at 06:37 PM

A huge part of feeling better on paleo is gut health. If you have a healthy gut to start, there's going to be relatively little improvement in your short-term overall well-being. Allergies/sensitivies also fit this, naturally if you don't have allergies or sensitivities, then you're not going to see the drastic improvement that others do.

It's a healthy diet overall, perhaps too restrictive if you're healthy (congrats on that!) Put down the paleo koolaid and eat some neolithic foods once in a while, you'll be fine.

4929a87e3f7438f18a0afbdde291ed5e

(752)

on July 25, 2012
at 12:56 AM

Great answer. I am one of the people that have reaped HUGE health rewards from Paleo. I often think to myself "Why did I not know about this sooner?" I could have saved myself years of agony....

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Fd70d71f4f8195c3a098eda4fc817d4f

(8014)

on July 24, 2012
at 07:52 PM

I agree with the people who've already said it's no sweat. The way you were eating before was so far ahead of most that switching to Paleo wasn't that big a shock to your system, so you didn't get that "WOW" kind of change some people experience when--for the first time in their lives--they're eating healthfully.

That being said, it's kinda too late now, but it might have been beneficial to get some blood work done before and after, to see if maybe there were positive changes you couldn't see in the mirror or even feel inside. (People who have a heart attack at 50 years old don't realize the stage was set for it 30 years earlier when they were downing Big Gulps and Hot Pockets at 20 years old, and "felt fine.")

You could still do it -- get blood work done now, then reintroduce whatever foods you miss, and get tested again in 2 months. (But again, since your diet was pretty good anyway, your #s might not change that much. Only a suggestion, because it would be a way to get objective information.)

Fd70d71f4f8195c3a098eda4fc817d4f

(8014)

on July 26, 2012
at 12:39 PM

I'm not telling him to stick with it. I only suggested he think about getting some testing done *in case* there are improvements he's not even aware of that might help him make a more informed decision as to whether continuing to eschew certain foods is worth it. No skin off my back if he decides it isn't. No fear mongering here, only a suggestion.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 26, 2012
at 02:50 PM

I don't know, Amy. Threatening a heart attack at 50 because you eat hot pockets and drink big gulps in your 20s sounds a little like fear mongering to me.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 26, 2012
at 11:56 AM

It's funny how most folks are told to just do paleo for 30 days and see how much better they feel. Then when they finish their 30 days and have no real improvement, they're told that they really ought to stick with it otherwise it'll bite them in the ass 20+ years later...

Fd70d71f4f8195c3a098eda4fc817d4f

(8014)

on July 26, 2012
at 07:13 PM

Do you disagree that plenty of people who "feel fine" for decades are stunned when they find out that "all of a sudden" they're diabetic or at risk for heart disease? I'm not saying the OP, specifically, is one of them. He already specified that his pre-Paleo diet was pretty good. My only intention was to suggest that maybe, just maybe, there were positive changes going on that he was unaware of. (Just as there are negative changes people aren't aware of until "one day" they need medication.)

Fd70d71f4f8195c3a098eda4fc817d4f

(8014)

on July 26, 2012
at 07:14 PM

Do you disagree that plenty of people who "feel fine" for decades are stunned when they find out that "all of a sudden" they're diabetic or at risk for heart disease? I'm not saying the OP, specifically, is one of them. He already specified that his pre-Paleo diet was pretty good. My only intention was to suggest that maybe, just maybe, there were positive changes going on that he was unaware of, and those might influence his decision to stay with Paleo or not. (Just as there are negative changes people aren't aware of until "one day" they need medication.)

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667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on July 24, 2012
at 06:54 PM

You're starting at a good place. I was similar. I never felt any better than before. I came from a WAP background with no issues. If you're good and healthy I'd say eat anything. I think the true sign of good health is having the metabolism to eat anything and thrive, like humans across the globe have done for thousands of years.

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5f3e1f803d7a9b8704bb11cda26bcf9a

on July 25, 2012
at 04:14 AM

How old are you? Heck, I could eat anything when I was in my twenties and thirties and didn't think anything was a problem. I felt fine. Now, in my fifties I am paying for all those years of not trying to be optimum and it is hard. If you live clean now, you may move gracefully and healthfully into your later years. I wish I had...

1096aa84d006fe967128ffbd37e8070e

(1002)

on July 25, 2012
at 04:48 AM

Great comment. I think age has loads to do with it! It seems like bad food has a cumulative effect on the body and mind.

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E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

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on July 24, 2012
at 07:19 PM

I don't feel any different on paleo as opposed to non-paleo. The only dietary difference for me comes from going low carb. Actually, tbf, my digestion is a bit better than when I was eating gallons of wheat germ, wheat bran and flax seed (this was most of my diet for a while), but nothing too radical. That said I'm young and active and I expect the benefits/harms of diet to be long term, for the most part.

That said, I think being paleo is a no-brainer. Whole animal foods and vegetables are good. You can go high starch or high fat as you like. Not eating lots of fructose, vegetable oil, PUFA, gluten grains seems uncontroversially positive. Obviously there may be ambiguity about how commendable it would be for you to include/exclude borderline foods like whole dairy and legumes, but we already knew that anyway.

Bfa1c9eacfc94a1b62f3a39b574480c6

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on July 25, 2012
at 02:18 AM

I think this sums up the entirety of Paleohacks.

717ac8a668eec6c024186d46ff30b3c3

(105)

on July 26, 2012
at 01:47 PM

A clean and straightforward guideline in eating. Well-said!

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 26, 2012
at 02:24 PM

By the sounds of it you were on a reasonable diet before (avoiding white stuff, soft drinks and candy) and you are also active.

It may be that your

  1. genotype,
  2. epigenotype,
  3. enterotype (gut bacteria)

protects you from the effects that long term Western diet consumption has on the metabolism of most people.

I should point out I've met people with amazing metabolisms that appear completely unaffected by ad libitum consumption of all sorts of junk. However, this is becoming very rare these days.

You've not mentioned your age and this plays a significant role.

In any case, consider that by practicing paleo or a paleo style diet you're making your evidently already good health even better - and that's a good thing for the long term.

From a scientific perspective - should you decide to go back on your pre-paleo diet - it would be interesting to get your perspective once you've been on that diet for 6 weeks also.

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on July 25, 2012
at 01:35 AM

I actually felt pretty crap for the first 1-2 months, I mark this down to my body adjusting to the new macronutrient ratios,probably a bit of detoxification and my own adjustment of the diet until I found what felt best. After that initial period I started to feel alright, it wasn't anything mind blowing, but I had a little better energy levels, I dropped off a bit of unwanted weight and wasn't getting as hungry as often. I call all that pretty significant, even if the actual feeling of being healthy was subtle.

Now I find my body can manage a little bit of abuse here and there. I dont care if I eat a slive of bread once in a while, have two scoops of ice cream with a fat glob of chocolate topping for desert at a dinner party, it's a one off thing.

So if you are finding paleo a difficult lifestyle, why not make your own hybrid diet. You now have better knowledge of what is good for you. So go ahead and eat grains and processed foods occasionally, just as you probably ate a guilty piece of bacon occasionally when you were eating a 'healthy SAD diet'. You don't need to give up on paleo completely.

76e82f76e7e3ed9747c980b50fc51b25

(229)

on July 25, 2012
at 01:39 AM

Thanks, I have definitely learned a lot and I will be taking all this new knowledge forwards with me!

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4929a87e3f7438f18a0afbdde291ed5e

on July 25, 2012
at 01:01 AM

I hate a very "healthy SAD" diet before becoming Paleo. I thought I was so healthy and my blood work was fine. My allergies and chemical sensitivities got worse and worse - chalk it up to what I now know is leaky gut. Paleo heals that. If you don't have it, good for you! There's no reason to eat strict Paleo if you can tolerate not eating that way. My husband can eat whatever he likes (he never suffered from leaky gut or any allergies, etc. - very, very healthy) but he sticks with strict Paleo (plus full fat dairy) because he noticed that his energy level and athletic performance jumped up when he started Paleo. That's enough reason for many people to do it. But good for you if you don't have to. Lucky! :)

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F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 24, 2012
at 07:41 PM

You don't have to eat Paleo - you can quit it any time. Nobody is forcing you. Some people have to eat Paleo for health reasons. You obviously don't. Lucky you.

However, if you ever get sick or anything, you can always resort to Paleo or at least Weston Price.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 24, 2012
at 09:24 PM

Why hemp? Can't it be... Haagen-Dazs instead?

Medium avatar

(10611)

on July 24, 2012
at 07:49 PM

Then hemp....then vegan....slippery slope....

Medium avatar

(10611)

on July 25, 2012
at 03:19 AM

That's a the black diamond run straight to the bottom with lots of stumps. Hemp is the bunny hill with flowers and moonbeams. You still get to the bottom, but under a pleasant brain fog.

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on July 25, 2012
at 04:22 AM

At least Haagen Dazs is full fat dairy

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Dc6407193ba441d1438f6f0c06af872b

on July 24, 2012
at 07:32 PM

If you get that autoimmune condition (or mystery rash, or GIRD, or obesity or whatever) in twenty years, you can switch to paleo then. Paleo helps these things, but often the damage is not entirely reversible and you'll have to be very compliant to remain in decent health. At that point you may find yourself wishing you had been paleo -- maybe not 100%, but pretty compliant. You have to make the decision for yourself, but I can say I wish that I had been lucky enough to know about paleo twenty years ago.

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C45d7e96acd83d3a6f58193dbc140e86

on July 24, 2012
at 06:36 PM

First off, if you already ate fairly healthy before, you are much less likely to feel an immediate difference. Some benefits takes years to notice. But given that you leaned out some in 6 weeks has to count for something. Were you "leaning out" on SAD before going paleo? Also, were your lifts going up at the same rate before? What were you looking for as a benefit, if you feel good, look leaner, and are stronger?

C45d7e96acd83d3a6f58193dbc140e86

on July 24, 2012
at 10:28 PM

Good for you! Paleo helped me get to 5% BF and maintain it with consistent energy

76e82f76e7e3ed9747c980b50fc51b25

(229)

on July 24, 2012
at 10:12 PM

I think leaning out was the biggest draw factor for me. Lifts progressed the same as before.

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on July 26, 2012
at 12:57 PM

Durward have strong resolve. Not everyone gets better with the modern version of the paleo template. It takes courage to say what you have said.

Read this: It may begin to explain to you why Paleo is just not enough from some of us.

http://jackkruse.com/brain-gut-5-paradigm-drifts-paradigm-shifts-epi-paleo/

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on July 26, 2012
at 10:55 AM

Robb wolf, mark sisson and Art de vany are all going to show up front door and administer you with 25 simultaneous backslide lashings with a pair of vibhram 5 fingers. Try not to sweat it or take it personal, it's just the standard protocol for all who abandon paleo.

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