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Help with my bacon dilemma!

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Created November 03, 2011 at 7:52 PM

Hey guys! I am not very educated on the Paleo Diet. I have been researching what I can, but I still feel that I have sooo many questions and not all the books have the answers that I am looking for. So I thought I would ask you all! I have read in THE PALEO DIET book that bacon is out of the question. Yet I have read in other books that bacon is a great source of fat and that I should be eating it. I have stayed away from it for the whole four months that I have been Paleo, and I'm wondering if its something I am better to stay away from? Or something I might be able to add in?? I just recently got a cookbook called Make It Paleo, and it is amazing! I cannot wait to try all of the recipes, but so many of them are with bacon that it got me wondering if it was ok or not. I am trying to stay a strict Paleo. I also see in this cookbook that there are waffles, bread, etc made with almond flour. Once again, am I better off staying away from almond flour and anything like that? or do you all use that as well? Thank you guys for helping out a newbie!

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on November 09, 2011
at 03:53 AM

Wiki also believes that man landed on the moon -_-

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on November 06, 2011
at 08:20 PM

People tend to focus on how much they've lost instead of how much they have yet to lose. Unless an ultrabacon plan takes you all the way to the goal, it's ineffective. Some people do get all the way there with an unrestricted, high fat intake. They're not the majority though.

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on November 06, 2011
at 07:14 PM

Ok, Travis, I had fingers poised to type a fiery rebuttal about the 30 pounds I've lost eating 2-3 strips of bacon daily BUT then you added the kicker about stalling before I reach my goal. On those terms, I'll file your point away and if/when I get to that point I'll ease up if I stall.

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on November 03, 2011
at 11:47 PM

I think it is more about curing and nitrates and that sort of thing.

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on November 03, 2011
at 11:32 PM

Who is Wiki and what does he know of the bacon then?

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on November 03, 2011
at 11:17 PM

Just keep this in mind if you stall out above the BF% you truly desire. If that never happens, awesome.

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on November 03, 2011
at 11:05 PM

definitely important to get uncured, nitrate free bacon. Preferably organic.

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on November 03, 2011
at 10:53 PM

+1, staceychev. For me, it's 30+ and I cook mostly skillet meals that start with 2-3 strips of uncured bacon. I then add other meats and veggies plus (usually) bone broth so I eat the fat as well as the bacon. Can you believe my skin's a little dry this week?

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on November 03, 2011
at 10:52 PM

+1, staceychev; for me it's 30+ pounds and I have 2-3 strips of bacon every day. For me, it's uncured--what are you using?

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on November 03, 2011
at 10:50 PM

Yo, Kasra, maybe we need to get a life. :-))

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on November 03, 2011
at 10:47 PM

Oh for sure it can work, but there's a greater likelihood of lean meat working, and lean meat will work faster. That 20# number would be higher, which in your case might be faster than you'd like. We could always say that you can eat bacon so long as it works, and then switch to steak, but I'm fairly impatient, so I want to do the most efficient thing on Day 1.

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on November 03, 2011
at 10:17 PM

Granted, this is my own personal experience, but I've had 20 lbs just disappear from my body in the last three months, eating bacon and eggs many times per week.

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on November 03, 2011
at 08:47 PM

I find the word 'superfood' to be problematic. Wiki says that it often denotes a food that "has high concentrations of essential nutrients with proven health benefits, with few properties generally considered to be negative." Even in the paleo community, what is 'essential' and 'proven' and 'beneficial' and 'negative' is not easily determined by definition, but by personal experience.

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on November 03, 2011
at 08:02 PM

Yo Nance, we are some pro paleo hackers. I see you on every question I answer.

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E46c729d18071082805378654a2020c5

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on November 03, 2011
at 08:09 PM

Everyone knows that Bacon is a superfood. I agree with Kasra, Uncured, grass fed when you can.

Instead of Almond flour (although great) try coconut flour for the majority of your flour needs. Other than that your ok.

Keep asking questions, that how you learn!

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on November 03, 2011
at 11:32 PM

Who is Wiki and what does he know of the bacon then?

0382fa263de4c83328dc34a56e25437f

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on November 03, 2011
at 08:47 PM

I find the word 'superfood' to be problematic. Wiki says that it often denotes a food that "has high concentrations of essential nutrients with proven health benefits, with few properties generally considered to be negative." Even in the paleo community, what is 'essential' and 'proven' and 'beneficial' and 'negative' is not easily determined by definition, but by personal experience.

E46c729d18071082805378654a2020c5

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on November 09, 2011
at 03:53 AM

Wiki also believes that man landed on the moon -_-

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on September 07, 2013
at 12:44 AM

Depends entirely upon your goals. If you want to lose fat, bacon will not help you out more than lean steak. In this regard, Cordain is correct. If you are at a body fat % that you truly desire and eating bacon doesn't increase it, then by all means eat it. As stated, try to find a reputable source.

The pseudo-SAD foods you're referring to are probably not toxic, but they're strange crutches that are perhaps less than optimal as you transition to a truly healthy diet. I don't know if they sprout the almonds with almond flour, but if not the phytic acid would be pretty high, just as it would be with most other flours. This doesn't mean that you need to avoid nuts/nut flours, rice, sweet/potatoes etc., just that you will probably absorb more of the minerals from your meals if you segregate the high phytate foods from the high mineral foods (meat, organs etc.)

Most of the people coming to a paleo diet are deficient in a lot of minerals. May as well replete them as rapidly as possible so that you can become healthy sooner.

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on November 03, 2011
at 10:47 PM

Oh for sure it can work, but there's a greater likelihood of lean meat working, and lean meat will work faster. That 20# number would be higher, which in your case might be faster than you'd like. We could always say that you can eat bacon so long as it works, and then switch to steak, but I'm fairly impatient, so I want to do the most efficient thing on Day 1.

Medium avatar

(39831)

on November 03, 2011
at 11:17 PM

Just keep this in mind if you stall out above the BF% you truly desire. If that never happens, awesome.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on November 03, 2011
at 10:52 PM

+1, staceychev; for me it's 30+ pounds and I have 2-3 strips of bacon every day. For me, it's uncured--what are you using?

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on November 03, 2011
at 10:53 PM

+1, staceychev. For me, it's 30+ and I cook mostly skillet meals that start with 2-3 strips of uncured bacon. I then add other meats and veggies plus (usually) bone broth so I eat the fat as well as the bacon. Can you believe my skin's a little dry this week?

C2450eb7fa11b37473599caf93b461ef

(3225)

on November 03, 2011
at 10:17 PM

Granted, this is my own personal experience, but I've had 20 lbs just disappear from my body in the last three months, eating bacon and eggs many times per week.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on November 06, 2011
at 07:14 PM

Ok, Travis, I had fingers poised to type a fiery rebuttal about the 30 pounds I've lost eating 2-3 strips of bacon daily BUT then you added the kicker about stalling before I reach my goal. On those terms, I'll file your point away and if/when I get to that point I'll ease up if I stall.

Medium avatar

(39831)

on November 06, 2011
at 08:20 PM

People tend to focus on how much they've lost instead of how much they have yet to lose. Unless an ultrabacon plan takes you all the way to the goal, it's ineffective. Some people do get all the way there with an unrestricted, high fat intake. They're not the majority though.

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on November 03, 2011
at 08:31 PM

I've been eating quite a bit of bacon for well over a year now, and my blood numbers have just gotten better and better. I do think it's important to buy nitrate-free bacon though.

I think using almond flour is ok if you're supplementing regularly with fish oil. I wouldn't eat almond flour pancakes more than once a week though, even with the fish oil supplementation.

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on November 03, 2011
at 11:05 PM

definitely important to get uncured, nitrate free bacon. Preferably organic.

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5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

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on November 03, 2011
at 08:00 PM

I see no reason to avoid bacon.

However, almonds, along with most other nuts, are pretty high in pro-inflammatory n-6 fatty acids, so don't eat too much almond flour.

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on November 03, 2011
at 10:32 PM

I'm not sure why it would be limited. There is no correlation in dietary cholesterol and heart disease despite what Pfizer says. From what I've seen in the low carb community they eat lots of bacon and they lose weight and cholesterol ratios and triglycerides get better

7d64d3988de1b0e493aacf37843c5596

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on November 03, 2011
at 11:47 PM

I think it is more about curing and nitrates and that sort of thing.

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7d64d3988de1b0e493aacf37843c5596

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on November 03, 2011
at 08:25 PM

Bacon is probably okay, but if it is cured/preserved I would be skeptical about making it a staple.

I am pretty meh about Paleo waffles, bread, lemon squares, baked goods, etc??? I just don't equate these with my approach to paleo/ancestral. I am also pretty skeptical about the whole idea of making ???healthy??? versions of your favorite food because that just seems like an excuse waiting to happen to (over)eat all you want.

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96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on November 03, 2011
at 08:00 PM

The primal/paleo community is all over the place on this one.

Some say "not" and others say "a little" while still others say "Go for it!"

In my case, I have naturally low cholesterol so I like to fry bacon at moderate heat to "liquify the pan" before adding other meat and vegetables/bone broth.

I prefer uncured, and my very favorite is grass fed uncured.

If you love it and you feel great after eating it and your bloodwork is great, GO FOR IT! (That's just me though.)

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on November 03, 2011
at 10:50 PM

Yo, Kasra, maybe we need to get a life. :-))

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

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on November 03, 2011
at 08:02 PM

Yo Nance, we are some pro paleo hackers. I see you on every question I answer.

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on November 06, 2011
at 07:11 PM

if it's the chemicals and packaging that are of concern, go find a chinese butcher and buy pork belly. that's the cut of slap of meat that bacon is made of. that's what i do and i cut it up into chunks (instead of slices for a better texture) and then stir fry; it's like chewing on pork steak :))

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on November 03, 2011
at 09:35 PM

There are so many different versions of the paleo diet there really isn't any one definition of "strict paleo". You have to find what works for you.

If you can get bacon that is uncured and pastured, I don't see any reason to avoid it. However, if you are buying grocery store meat, I'd keep bacon as a once in a while thing.

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