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Best way to "sneak" fat?

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Created September 19, 2012 at 1:58 AM

With a psycho parent? Like... "OMFG YOU ARE KILLING YOURSELF WITH ALL THAT FAT!" And after gaining weight the past 3 weeks and have abdominal pain --> from binge eating on fruit and dried fruit, she's like "omg I bet you have gallstones and wow if you eat all that fat you are just asking for an early grave." And..."NO ONE ELSE I KNOW EATS 2 DOZEN EGGS IN A WEEK..." and other fear of cholesterol nonsense. She believes in MayoClinic and other conventional government websites like they are some kind of omnipotent god. You know, the typical "they are right because they are doctors." Sorry but...no. Please, any suggestions? I mean I eat a very high fat/low carb diet, and it's the only way I can control my binge eating, lose weight, and be happy with myself. Obviously I will be moving out ASAP, but until then...? If you don't have suggestions, at the very least give me some support here. It just makes me so upset when conventional wisdom believers seek to tell me that I am ignorant and don't know what I'm talking about. It's like no... I chose to educate myself and make decisions for myself, so fuck you...right? Anyone have similar experiences?

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on September 20, 2012
at 03:10 AM

It was only 4 each, but 8 total and she thought was outrageous. She said "one is plenty."We do love eggs!

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on September 19, 2012
at 11:25 PM

You stole my answer! Even your family will agree that olive oil is healthful, so it'll be in the house. You can certainly sneak 1/4 cup before dinner, which will buy you a lot more flexibility at dinnertime. I also second the sardines. Make sure they are NOT skinless/boneless. The sardines I have are packed in water, and are about 80% fat and 20% protein, but most people think of sardines as protein, not fat, so you could get away with that.

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on September 19, 2012
at 08:22 PM

Haha. That breakfast looks fantastic.

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at 05:04 PM

Thanks for the response. Good point on the science. It's very interesting how my journey in paleo-land has evolved throughout all the books/articles/websites I have read. The first step is definitely opening someone's mind to the possibility that their reality could be wrong....

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on September 19, 2012
at 05:03 PM

Lol. 8 eggs = delish.

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at 05:02 PM

Thank you so much for the response! I'm glad to find a fellow paleo BEDer, haha. I completely agree with the fruits and nuts being triggers, and for me cheese is a huge trigger as well. I eat basically the same things as you :) Feeling in control and feeling satisfied is so much better! Good luck in your healing and I'm glad that someone else is getting control of their binges. BED is a serious life ruiner.

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at 02:37 AM

Funny, my dad is a lot more on board than my mom, but I know he still has reservations about fat, because it's been so drilled into their head that fat is evil. Which is funny since my mom eats ice cream with the second ingredient = HFCS. I'm like uhhh.... hello? So nice of your mom to save the fat for you! Wow. Agreed on the showing them how good my health is. Unfortunately having BED (although I only binge on "paleo" foods...hah) sort of messes with that a bit. Still, good suggestions, thank you!

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on September 19, 2012
at 02:36 AM

Change the subject, distract. State thoughtfully and honestly, "thanks for your concern, I know it's coming from a good place. I'm just trying to work out what's best for me." I personally would reconsider a fat intake of 80% of cals. At that point it becomes challenging to meet micronutrient needs unless you're taking in a ton of cals overall. Always be super calm and non-reactive. Don't explain nor defend

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at 02:33 AM

Thanks! Love commiserating with others that have to deal with this! Only two eggs and they question you? My god! I eat like 4 or 5, and only the yolk. It's funny how the low fat dogma of our parent's childhood really sticks around. She like literally cannot get past it. Good luck with your battle against the naysayers :)

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at 02:30 AM

Thanks for the suggestion. Well, she basically told me I had to "eat normal" because she pays for my health insurance. I can eat regular paleo just fine, but it's when I eat a ton of eggs/bacon and things drowning in fat she flips. Unfortunately that is a lot of what I eat, esp. since upping my fat to around 80% a day. Also unfortunately she prefers to stay ignorant despite all the links and videos I have sent her to watch.

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on September 19, 2012
at 07:39 PM

Best way to sneak fat is to use a lot of olive oil. Since I take it you live with your parents, if you are still in school, bring a small bottle of olive oil with you (if you can) and add it to your lunch. Or, after school, when everybody is going to the convenience store or pizza place after school, go to the grocery store and get some fatty good stuff and eat it before you get home. You could stock up on stuff that doesn't spoil like cans of sardines or artisan salami, coconut butter or whatever--you be creative--and keep that in your backpack.

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on September 19, 2012
at 11:25 PM

You stole my answer! Even your family will agree that olive oil is healthful, so it'll be in the house. You can certainly sneak 1/4 cup before dinner, which will buy you a lot more flexibility at dinnertime. I also second the sardines. Make sure they are NOT skinless/boneless. The sardines I have are packed in water, and are about 80% fat and 20% protein, but most people think of sardines as protein, not fat, so you could get away with that.

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on September 19, 2012
at 06:05 AM

My mom thought my husband and I were crazy for eating 8 eggs total in one sitting. She told several people at a family gathering later that day.

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on September 19, 2012
at 05:03 PM

Lol. 8 eggs = delish.

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on September 20, 2012
at 03:10 AM

It was only 4 each, but 8 total and she thought was outrageous. She said "one is plenty."We do love eggs!

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on September 19, 2012
at 05:56 AM

Show them this picture(scroll down to see it) of a meal I had at a diner. I didn't have the heart to tell the waitress that the things on the "healthy" menu are what will kill you!

P.S. After seeing the shock on her face from the plates of eggs and bacon, I left out the large amount of butter in my coffee!

-Matt
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on September 19, 2012
at 08:22 PM

Haha. That breakfast looks fantastic.

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on September 19, 2012
at 02:10 AM

Many people can relate here. One question though, is she stopping you from eating all that fat or is she just making negative remarks about it? If it's the latter then just ignore it, you know what's right.

Have you tried showing her or explaining to her about the paleo lifestyle? Give her some links to read, that's the best you can do. When i started out eating this way, my family was supportive yet skeptical. One aspect that really hit hard was my general change in attitude. Might have been forced at the start but then just became natural. By this i mean, act more mature in front of your mom. Give her a reason to believe that what you are doing is good for your health and in the long run going to have positive effects in all aspects of your life.

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on September 19, 2012
at 02:30 AM

Thanks for the suggestion. Well, she basically told me I had to "eat normal" because she pays for my health insurance. I can eat regular paleo just fine, but it's when I eat a ton of eggs/bacon and things drowning in fat she flips. Unfortunately that is a lot of what I eat, esp. since upping my fat to around 80% a day. Also unfortunately she prefers to stay ignorant despite all the links and videos I have sent her to watch.

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on September 19, 2012
at 12:31 PM

Educate yourself so that you can educate her (like that there were no studies done on humans when the whole lipid theory gained popularity) and also tell her that you are an adult and able to make your own choices based on what you know, how you feel, etc. Back to my first point, sort of, I was reading just last night that nothing in science is set in stone and that science is allowed to change - this holds true for diet and medicine.

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on September 19, 2012
at 05:04 PM

Thanks for the response. Good point on the science. It's very interesting how my journey in paleo-land has evolved throughout all the books/articles/websites I have read. The first step is definitely opening someone's mind to the possibility that their reality could be wrong....

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on September 19, 2012
at 05:32 AM

Stay strong!! my parents have slowly become more understanding, being VERY skeptical when I first started Paleo too, but it gets better. It still can be very difficult sometimes though because they just don't quite get it but hey what can you do but show them articles and be an example yourself right? I too sometimes eat 5... even 6 eggs(embarrassed to say haha) a day! I have paleo BED too, but since cutting out nuts and fruit, no more IFing/Alternate day fasting, and eating fat when I feel a carb craving/binge (as I'm trying to break the binging monster in the first place)... I can feel myself healing TREMENDOUSLY!! (I basically only eat eggs, salads, meat, fish, butter/coconut oil, and avocados, so I know exactly how you feel about the high fat diet, it's the only thing that's helped me). You go girl, don't worry what they say about the fat, one day they might look to you for health advice when they see how healthy you are!!

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on September 19, 2012
at 05:02 PM

Thank you so much for the response! I'm glad to find a fellow paleo BEDer, haha. I completely agree with the fruits and nuts being triggers, and for me cheese is a huge trigger as well. I eat basically the same things as you :) Feeling in control and feeling satisfied is so much better! Good luck in your healing and I'm glad that someone else is getting control of their binges. BED is a serious life ruiner.

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on September 19, 2012
at 02:16 AM

My parents were concerned as well...until I showed them my bloodwork results (which were awesome) and explained how much better I feel now (no more afternoon slump, no more chronic knee pain...I can run without a knee brace again!) Now whenever I go to my parents' for dinner, my mom has a jar or bag of beef fat that they saved for me. My dad still isn't so convinced, but is at least supportive. He even cooks with ghee when they know I'm coming over, since canola gives me a stomach ache. Baby steps! Be patient. Are they willing to do some reading? Maybe they need to see the info from someone other than their kid? I just recently introduced my mom to Chris Kresser's site. I know she'll be able to get through to my dad better than I...

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on September 19, 2012
at 02:37 AM

Funny, my dad is a lot more on board than my mom, but I know he still has reservations about fat, because it's been so drilled into their head that fat is evil. Which is funny since my mom eats ice cream with the second ingredient = HFCS. I'm like uhhh.... hello? So nice of your mom to save the fat for you! Wow. Agreed on the showing them how good my health is. Unfortunately having BED (although I only binge on "paleo" foods...hah) sort of messes with that a bit. Still, good suggestions, thank you!

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on September 19, 2012
at 02:12 AM

I have a similar experience. A few weeks ago I was visiting my parents and I told my dad as he was preparing breakfast that I eat at least 2 eggs a day. He asked, "is that too much??" and my sister exclaimed, "WHAT'S YOUR CHOLESTEROL!?" This is generally how my conversations surrounding fat go. There isn't much questioning beyond that. My mom thinks "eating healthy" and "losing weight" is synonymous with eating low fat. Even for their overweight dogs, she believes they need to eat "low fat." She also believes that carbs are satiating and protein and fat are NOT, and she doesn't understand how there could be any sort of particularly beneficial nutrient in organ meat. She hangs on to the nutrition advice she heard in the early 90s, and while she's open to new concepts that do not conflict with anything she's been previously told (e.g. she recently started having my grandfather with leukemia take turmeric pills, and she's not even the holistic "type"), but once it conflicts, it's completely disregarded.

No advice here obviously. Just sharing your pain.

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at 02:33 AM

Thanks! Love commiserating with others that have to deal with this! Only two eggs and they question you? My god! I eat like 4 or 5, and only the yolk. It's funny how the low fat dogma of our parent's childhood really sticks around. She like literally cannot get past it. Good luck with your battle against the naysayers :)

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