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Am I in Paleo backlash? How to get back on track?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created June 09, 2011 at 1:26 AM

So about 6 weeks ago I went strict Paleo, and initially had great results. High energy, several minor health issues disappeared, I doubled my workouts per week, great mood, etc. You may have seen my glowing postings here.

Well something happened about a week ago. I had a couple of cheat days... I got stuck at the house of family friends and they are fat tyrants and I had awful food for 2 days. Then a few days after that I got backed into a big Asian-style dinner which involved lots of strange starches / MSG and processed foods. I had major starch/gluten hangovers which disrupted my sleep and energy for several days afterwards. But I can't seem to get out of the funk after 7-8 days.

I'm trying to get back on track, did a double workout yesterday (Burpees and kettlebells), had a good day today (low carb, liver for lunch, long walk), but I still feel like I'm carrying around a sack of bricks attached to my rear end. Lousy mood, low energy, subpar digestion. I feel like my body is in revolt. I was hoping to shed some weight on the diet, and initially I lost about 6-7 pounds, but now my weight has not budged for about 4 weeks.

Has anyone else had a "bounce" after a short while on the diet or just a period of the blahs? I wonder if my body is getting overloaded with the fat / cholesterol / protein which initially treated me so well. Any advice for getting back into the happy place?

A typical day's food: about 8-12 oz of coffee with cream or green tea with no additives, then breakfast: 1-2 eggs fried + 5000iu vit d supplement, maybe some berries; lunch a "protein and crunchy vegetable" salad with olive oil, OR sauteed meat or liver with sauteed vegetables; dinner 10-15oz of meat (grass fed beef OR lamb, OR dark meat chicken, OR seafood, OR sausage), leafy green vegetables (spinach, chard, bok choi, broccolini, broccoli rabe, seaweed salad), maybe sweet potatoes, couple of glasses of red wine. Occasional high-fat cheese (Edam, brie, cheddar), I tolerate dairy very well. PWO raw milk, banana, and/or sweet potatoes. Dessert/snacks are unsweetened coconut cream, or about 1/2 cup of berries with whole cream.

Workouts 5-6x week, one of: 30-40 minutes kettlebells, run 3 miles, 30 minutes interval sprints, 20-30 minutes Burpees.

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

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on June 09, 2011
at 05:28 PM

Geez, heck if i know. i just know MY weight can vary wildy in a short time, and that lots of people lose a lot of weight in the 1st cpl weeks and then get bummed out when it doesn't keep coming off, and i think the reason is that it wasn't really fat loss. But man, 2 pants sizes is 2 pants sizes -- fat, water, "toxins" or bubble-gum - whatever it is, it's awesome. My answer was meant to be encouraging, actually - but it was late; as i re-read it's sorta pointless babble. :P sorry. I like your thoughtful posts and your positive, reasonable outlook, and i hope you feel "back on track" real soon!

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on June 09, 2011
at 04:55 PM

also, a shot of juice from a lemon and 1/8-1/2 tsp of cayenne pepper can help flush the liver

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on June 09, 2011
at 04:49 PM

Not sure I get the whole "water weight" thing, I went down 2 pants sizes -- can that really be due to "water"?

9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

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on June 09, 2011
at 04:46 PM

I don't eat ALL of those things every day, that is just the list that I choose from :-). Typical day is 1-2 eggs, then a salad, then a portion of meat + vegetables.

9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

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on June 09, 2011
at 04:44 PM

I couldn't come anywhere close to my calorie or protein requirements/goals with 3-5 oz per meal. I often have not had more than 400-500 calories at dinner, so need 1000-1500 calories then. 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight at 220 pounds = 220 grams = 31 oz. of steak per day! I don't eat that much but shoot for at least half that.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 09, 2011
at 01:43 AM

I did a major cheat over a week. My little tummy is carrying bricks. I think some of it is mental as we feel like we cheated. I am curious about the amount of time you put into your workouts. I feel great on 15 minutes of intense along with a 15 minute deep yoga session. Just want to know if I should up my time.

To answer the question...I'm finding that smaller meals and less fat is helping me get back on track. Going back full on to the original diet is proving more harm as I find it tedious. My fear is that perhaps I can't sustain paleo and I need to adjust myselfn mayb 100% paleo is best for me more infrequently. Perhaps that's something to consider. Wish I could help more.

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on June 09, 2011
at 02:18 AM

You may be gluten sensitive. If that is true, eating gluten, even just a little bit, can cause a huge reaction that can last for days. Estimates are that 10-30% of the population is gluten sensitive. Anyone going on a strict paleo diet is also on a gluten free diet. The funk should pass soon if this is the problem.

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on June 09, 2011
at 01:44 AM

If it is a weight loss stall, then perhaps consider toxins. I heard on a podcast recently and read (somewhere???) that weight loss plateaus can be the result of built up toxins that have been released from your bodyfat. The liver is a (if not THE) key player in fat burning. If it's backed up trying to detox, then you may have a stall. Especially if you've recently had a toxin heavy few days.

If it were me, I'd give a round of Milk Thistle (or silymarim) and a bunch of brassica veggies (broccoli, kale, caulifower - which you seem to be eating) a go to enhance phase 2 detox enzyme production. Also water and keep up the protein. Protein is needed for proper liver detox.

662a4ea915eb7c758bdd797d77ead7b6

(656)

on June 09, 2011
at 04:55 PM

also, a shot of juice from a lemon and 1/8-1/2 tsp of cayenne pepper can help flush the liver

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on June 09, 2011
at 06:57 AM

It seems 10-15oz of meat at one meal is a bit much. I usually keep my meat and fish servings to the size of my palm (3-5oz). I usually buy one 12oz steak and spread it across three meals. But I am also trying to lose weight. Maybe consider 1/2'ing your meat portions, and see how you feel.

9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

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on June 09, 2011
at 04:44 PM

I couldn't come anywhere close to my calorie or protein requirements/goals with 3-5 oz per meal. I often have not had more than 400-500 calories at dinner, so need 1000-1500 calories then. 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight at 220 pounds = 220 grams = 31 oz. of steak per day! I don't eat that much but shoot for at least half that.

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559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

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on June 09, 2011
at 04:06 AM

i'm not getting a vibe that you're stressing about a weight plateau so much, although i can say that first 7 lbs was likely mostly "water weight". i haven't lost any weight at all on paleo, myself. (tho i did put on about 5 lbs last weekend, eating too many carbs - water weight fo sho - it's gone now).

i certainly don't think you're eating too much!

i don't have advice for your blahs, except to say that i agree with others that it might still be the bad stuff/gluten you ate last week having lasting effects. it's true what they say about getting more sensitive, in my experience.

sorry your feelin' bad; i think you'll bounce back -- i'm looking forward to more glowing postings!

9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

(15833)

on June 09, 2011
at 04:49 PM

Not sure I get the whole "water weight" thing, I went down 2 pants sizes -- can that really be due to "water"?

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

(3631)

on June 09, 2011
at 05:28 PM

Geez, heck if i know. i just know MY weight can vary wildy in a short time, and that lots of people lose a lot of weight in the 1st cpl weeks and then get bummed out when it doesn't keep coming off, and i think the reason is that it wasn't really fat loss. But man, 2 pants sizes is 2 pants sizes -- fat, water, "toxins" or bubble-gum - whatever it is, it's awesome. My answer was meant to be encouraging, actually - but it was late; as i re-read it's sorta pointless babble. :P sorry. I like your thoughtful posts and your positive, reasonable outlook, and i hope you feel "back on track" real soon!

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on June 09, 2011
at 03:37 AM

I love what you're eating, but that's a stupendous amount of food all day long, especially with starches in the mix. I gradually moved to daily intermittent fasting, eating only a big lunch and dinner, almost entirely animal-based. Rougly 17-18 hours from dinner one day to lunch the next. Never been in better condition. How you eat, in my opinion, is as important as what. Long periods of no food, to the best of my knowledge, are VERY good for you. If that's something you want to try, you'll have to learn to tolerate being hungry in the beginning, because it can mess with your mind as you adjust. Cutting out any snacks is step one.

9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

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on June 09, 2011
at 04:46 PM

I don't eat ALL of those things every day, that is just the list that I choose from :-). Typical day is 1-2 eggs, then a salad, then a portion of meat + vegetables.

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on June 09, 2011
at 03:36 AM

Cut out Fruit, Dairy and cut the wine, and you should jump start the weight loss. I tolerate it well, but I do much better without it. If you are not of ideal weight, Alcohol is poison to our bodies. I'd also give up sweet potatoes. Eat some Walnuts, Pecans, macadamia nuts for snacks (if tolerable) Get your carbs into the 10-50g per day range to put your body in ketosis. I have been Primal for 41 days, lost 24.2 lbs and have more energy than anytime in my entire life.

You also appear to be overtraining which can hold weight also. It's not necessary to do so much cardio...Up your Weight workouts...LIft heavy things...sprints are good. Walking is good(barefoot) if possible.

How much sleep to you get?

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