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Nutrients for maximum height potential?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created December 04, 2010 at 9:01 PM

Hello everybody.

First post. Just a little background, I've already been on paleo for a couple of months and is feeling great. I'm 18 and a college student, currently a basketball player and aiming to be a professional wrestler after college/university. I'm around 5"7" to 5"8" right now and 150 pounds. I'm aiming for 6"0" or at least 5"10" I would still happy. One inch a year up to my early twenties ain't asking too much I guess. I know maybe 18 is a bit late to diet for height, as one can gain the most benefit when start from infant or teenage years, which I wish my parents would have done that for me, but hey, better late than never. I'm wondering what is the diet for maximum height?

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

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on May 11, 2011
at 09:37 AM

Tom Cruise !!!!

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(5639)

on May 10, 2011
at 03:19 AM

Yeah, I actually grew about an inch and a half in my early 20's. Same story with my dad and granddad.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on May 10, 2011
at 01:02 AM

Hahaha. I love this answer. I don't even know why.

Medium avatar

(39821)

on May 09, 2011
at 08:40 PM

Well said; the difference between repleting a deficiency and magic pill syndrome.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on January 29, 2011
at 01:50 AM

Diet can certainly affect growth and height in some people. For instance celiac disease which is caused by gluten sensitivty can cause failure to thrive in some people. There is evidence that all human beings have some degree to "gluten sensitivity". It's just that some people have more obvious symptoms. A less obvious symptom could be cancer at age 35, that is not as easily linked to gluten as small intestine damage and immune response which can be detected and traced to gluten. Just one example. Dairy is another thing which can cause growth problems in susceptible people.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on January 29, 2011
at 01:47 AM

There is evidence that all human beings have some degree to "gluten sensitivity". It's just that some people have more obvious symptoms. A less obvious symptom could be cancer at age 35, that is not as easily linked to gluten as small intestine damage with clear indication of gluten causing immune response. More and more studies are showing that gluten consumption is being linked to many of the health problems that are often blamed on other things.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on January 29, 2011
at 01:45 AM

There is evidence that all human beings have some degree to "gluten sensitivity". It's just that some people have more obvious symptoms. For someone the damage could be may be cancer at age 40, which is not as obvious as small intestine damage for instance. More and more gluten consumption is being linked to many of the health problems that plague the USA and other western countries.

77732bf6bf2b8a360f523ef87c3b7523

(6157)

on December 06, 2010
at 03:58 PM

Almost everything is limited by genetics, but expression within those limits is variably variable.

7d5d98a0453db2ae67358a3169888aca

(263)

on December 05, 2010
at 01:15 PM

@Andreas1125 & Eva: It's true that starvation and malnourishment will stunt growth, but height potential is a genetically inherited trait.

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on December 05, 2010
at 03:03 AM

Much of height is genetic, but a bad diet will definitely stunt growth by a food or more. Just look at the height diff between north and south Korea. Not long ago, they had the same average height, but now food availability has made a drastic shift.

560b683d1c103cb2bddd9e86db8126d5

(116)

on December 05, 2010
at 01:17 AM

@Payam Oh I forgot. Is there some difference between colostrum in capsules and raw colostrum?

560b683d1c103cb2bddd9e86db8126d5

(116)

on December 05, 2010
at 12:43 AM

@mari Thank you very much for the raw milk advice. However, I don't seem to tolerate it well in large amount. I'm already supplementing D3/K2/Magnesium. Just want to make sure I'm doing everything right. @Payam I live in California and I get raw milk products from Organic Pastures too. I'll definitely check that out. And you mentioned natto, which is fermented soy, as a source of K2. Is it any good? I've read that the K2 is in MK-7 form which is not as bio-available as MK-4. And also soy increases estrogen and what not.

560b683d1c103cb2bddd9e86db8126d5

(116)

on December 05, 2010
at 12:33 AM

@emptyvacuum I beg to differ. I think it seems hereditary is due to parents feeding their kids the same food they eat. In Southern China, the diet mainly consists of rice and people are much shorter than that of Northern China, where the diet has much more meat and other stuff. A terrible/SAD diet can be somewhat nutritious but a diet of pure rice offers absolutely no nutrient at all. In most East Asian countries where rice is a staple, the people were and still are very short, where as a tribal people like Mongols were very tall, which I assume their diet is more paleo-ish.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on December 05, 2010
at 12:26 AM

@Mari, obviously your parents will guide you best but not eating after early afternoon at only 15 years seems unnecessary.

560b683d1c103cb2bddd9e86db8126d5

(116)

on December 05, 2010
at 12:18 AM

-Carl That varies from person to person as far as I'm concerned. My cousins grew in their mid twenties and I also know others who have stopped growing before they're eighteen.

Ef9f83cb4e1826261a44c173f733789e

(13635)

on December 04, 2010
at 11:17 PM

Adults can add height?

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

(7304)

on December 04, 2010
at 10:19 PM

My raw milk supplier also has colostrum. What is it exactly and why is it so good?

B4aa2df25a6bf17d22556667ff896170

(851)

on December 04, 2010
at 09:47 PM

Raw milk is great.. but the best would be raw colostrum. Where do you live? Organic pastures sells it in CA, but any farm that sells raw milk will likely sell it. It is expensive and very nutrient dense. Best thing to do is to freeze the raw colostrum in ice cubes, and add an ice cube of colostrum to your raw milk. But as mentioned, vitamin d, k2 (natto, liver, other organ meats), and getting plenty of sleep will help growth hormone release.

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

(7304)

on December 04, 2010
at 09:31 PM

b12 also promotes growth, not sure if it would help though. And make sure you don't have any deficiencies, and at least supplement d, k2, and magnesium.

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C2ad96801ec1e22d2bf62475b6e52751

(1416)

on May 10, 2011
at 12:42 AM

Sorry, dude. I'm 6'5" and until a couple of years ago, I ate absolute crap. If it makes you feel better, I'm ugly.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on May 10, 2011
at 01:02 AM

Hahaha. I love this answer. I don't even know why.

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04293f705870e1837b8670d3c1cd5f67

on December 05, 2010
at 01:24 AM

I think it is quite possible to grow a bit taller. We can be hopeful. My brother grew after high school and so did another boy that I knew in high school. My girls are taller than me and my son is also in the 95% for height. My husband is 5'8". I am 5'4". I think my kids are taller than average because of good nutrition. I always tell people we eat EGGS. And lots of them. So my recommendation is to make sure you getting lots of eggs in your paleo diet.

One egg has 13 essential nutrients in varying amounts ??? including high-quality protein. Make sure you eat the whole egg or at least the egg yolks.

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100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

(18706)

on December 05, 2010
at 01:09 AM

I don't know that you can increase height, only prevent stunting growth.


Medium avatar

(39821)

on May 09, 2011
at 08:40 PM

Well said; the difference between repleting a deficiency and magic pill syndrome.

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7d5d98a0453db2ae67358a3169888aca

on December 04, 2010
at 11:30 PM

There is no such thing as a "height diet" that I'm aware of. Height is hereditary, not dietary. I ate a terrible diet during my youth and puberty, and I'm a type 1 diabetic, which has been known to cause stunted growth, and I'm still 6'3. Just eat well, live a healthy life, and work with what you've got.

7d5d98a0453db2ae67358a3169888aca

(263)

on December 05, 2010
at 01:15 PM

@Andreas1125 & Eva: It's true that starvation and malnourishment will stunt growth, but height potential is a genetically inherited trait.

77732bf6bf2b8a360f523ef87c3b7523

(6157)

on December 06, 2010
at 03:58 PM

Almost everything is limited by genetics, but expression within those limits is variably variable.

560b683d1c103cb2bddd9e86db8126d5

(116)

on December 05, 2010
at 12:33 AM

@emptyvacuum I beg to differ. I think it seems hereditary is due to parents feeding their kids the same food they eat. In Southern China, the diet mainly consists of rice and people are much shorter than that of Northern China, where the diet has much more meat and other stuff. A terrible/SAD diet can be somewhat nutritious but a diet of pure rice offers absolutely no nutrient at all. In most East Asian countries where rice is a staple, the people were and still are very short, where as a tribal people like Mongols were very tall, which I assume their diet is more paleo-ish.

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on December 05, 2010
at 03:03 AM

Much of height is genetic, but a bad diet will definitely stunt growth by a food or more. Just look at the height diff between north and south Korea. Not long ago, they had the same average height, but now food availability has made a drastic shift.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on January 29, 2011
at 01:47 AM

There is evidence that all human beings have some degree to "gluten sensitivity". It's just that some people have more obvious symptoms. A less obvious symptom could be cancer at age 35, that is not as easily linked to gluten as small intestine damage with clear indication of gluten causing immune response. More and more studies are showing that gluten consumption is being linked to many of the health problems that are often blamed on other things.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on January 29, 2011
at 01:45 AM

There is evidence that all human beings have some degree to "gluten sensitivity". It's just that some people have more obvious symptoms. For someone the damage could be may be cancer at age 40, which is not as obvious as small intestine damage for instance. More and more gluten consumption is being linked to many of the health problems that plague the USA and other western countries.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on January 29, 2011
at 01:50 AM

Diet can certainly affect growth and height in some people. For instance celiac disease which is caused by gluten sensitivty can cause failure to thrive in some people. There is evidence that all human beings have some degree to "gluten sensitivity". It's just that some people have more obvious symptoms. A less obvious symptom could be cancer at age 35, that is not as easily linked to gluten as small intestine damage and immune response which can be detected and traced to gluten. Just one example. Dairy is another thing which can cause growth problems in susceptible people.

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Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

(7304)

on December 04, 2010
at 09:12 PM

Milk has growth hormones which can help you grow. I would try to get raw. Not eating past the afternoon can help you release more growth hormone at night too.

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

(7304)

on December 04, 2010
at 10:19 PM

My raw milk supplier also has colostrum. What is it exactly and why is it so good?

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

(7304)

on December 04, 2010
at 09:31 PM

b12 also promotes growth, not sure if it would help though. And make sure you don't have any deficiencies, and at least supplement d, k2, and magnesium.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on December 05, 2010
at 12:26 AM

@Mari, obviously your parents will guide you best but not eating after early afternoon at only 15 years seems unnecessary.

B4aa2df25a6bf17d22556667ff896170

(851)

on December 04, 2010
at 09:47 PM

Raw milk is great.. but the best would be raw colostrum. Where do you live? Organic pastures sells it in CA, but any farm that sells raw milk will likely sell it. It is expensive and very nutrient dense. Best thing to do is to freeze the raw colostrum in ice cubes, and add an ice cube of colostrum to your raw milk. But as mentioned, vitamin d, k2 (natto, liver, other organ meats), and getting plenty of sleep will help growth hormone release.

560b683d1c103cb2bddd9e86db8126d5

(116)

on December 05, 2010
at 01:17 AM

@Payam Oh I forgot. Is there some difference between colostrum in capsules and raw colostrum?

560b683d1c103cb2bddd9e86db8126d5

(116)

on December 05, 2010
at 12:43 AM

@mari Thank you very much for the raw milk advice. However, I don't seem to tolerate it well in large amount. I'm already supplementing D3/K2/Magnesium. Just want to make sure I'm doing everything right. @Payam I live in California and I get raw milk products from Organic Pastures too. I'll definitely check that out. And you mentioned natto, which is fermented soy, as a source of K2. Is it any good? I've read that the K2 is in MK-7 form which is not as bio-available as MK-4. And also soy increases estrogen and what not.

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98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

on May 11, 2011
at 04:38 AM

Forget the diet. You're already cooked. Just go out and make a lot of money. Money makes every man appear much taller than he really is. ;)

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

(2399)

on May 11, 2011
at 09:37 AM

Tom Cruise !!!!

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on May 10, 2011
at 04:50 AM

At the end of puberty the epiphyseal plates close, ending the ability of the bones to lengthen. When this occurs, a teenager has reached their maximum adult height. This is why all those scrawny little guys in high school come back to the 10 year HS reunions +6ft and looking damn good.

This is also why dogs neutered under the age of one tend to be lean and leggy. I'm not suggesting neutering yourself, but you may want to stay away from testosterone building diets and supplements for a few years and focus on keeping your body lean.

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on May 09, 2011
at 08:43 PM

I would just do what all of us do for optimal health in general. This means lots of fatty grass-fed ruminant meat, grass-fed ruminant liver and fructose-free carbs. The liver will likely make the biggest difference with regard to addressing any possible nutrient deficiencies. 4000IU of D-3 a day, 200mcg k-2, and 200mcg Se on non-liver days.

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on May 09, 2011
at 07:58 PM

the best for growth is exercise and good nutristion in that order if you reach maxium height for even poor genetics is around 6'2 for most men dont know for women 6'75 is the maxium height for any human being with out any genetic defoming (giantium) i am only 5'3 fully grown (i was starved by an abusive mother) am male btw stavation and malnutrition stunts growth badly and increses chance of any diseases the taller you are the faster your cromasome with weaken/degrade (age) or life expectancy will shirten this really isnt a problem evan when your 6'75 you can have a very long life but a large problem at 6'8 most giant dont live very long

there is 3 growth sequences both men and women have the same apart from women have less at there end you do not stop growing at 18 (you may stop growing height wise but not musical mass or density) you stop growing at 21 (brain stops increasing around 45) best time phyicly is 23 hope this helps

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on December 05, 2010
at 07:29 AM

What is your family history for late growth? In my family, we all hit full adult height early (by age 15-16) but I know families that grow well into their 20's. I'd say plenty of animal protein can maximize your potential, but I can't claim any great science behind that.

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7431586c21bca496c5a7ec7bd0ca4d6e

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on December 05, 2010
at 05:03 AM

I was under the impression the eating insulin releasing foods like milk and wheat augmented height. The trade off is increased cancer risk later on.

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62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on December 05, 2010
at 03:08 AM

Go to fitday.com and punch in your food intake. The service is free. Make sure you are not missing any nutrients that may be needed. Your nutrient intake will depend on your individual choices within the paleo options. It is still possible to be missing nutrients while still eating paleo. What nutrients you might miss will depend on your individual eating choices and preferences.

Personally, I would not bother with natto if you are already intaking a reasonable amount of K. IMO, the goal is to have balanced nutrition and plenty of each nutrient. But megdoses of any one nutrient, like from natto, will probably not help you and in some cases may not be as good as intaking a more moderate amount of that nutrient. So my advice would be to not supplement on things you are already getting plenty of but instead pinpoint what you may lack and try get more of that only, either by eating more whole foods with that in it or by supplementing, or both. Getting more of something is only useful if you lack it.

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