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"Eat For Heat" by Matt Stone

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created January 31, 2013 at 5:32 AM

What do you think about the book "Eat For Heat" written by Matt Stone? Have any of you have read it and implemented any of the strategies mentioned in the book. Has it made any difference in your life/health?

Edit* I realize that alot of people dislike or hate him in the paleo community, but I am just asking if the principles in the book have been helpful to you if you have tried them. Apparently he doesn't mind people eating some junk but my question is for those of you who have tried the methods while eating paleo/primal/WAPF style. The book is about people overhydrating themselves and following the 8 glasses of water a day myth and as a result "diluting" their cellular fluid and blood. Apparently this impacts our metabolism and also makes our hands and feet very cold. He recommends alot of salt.

I have not read this book, this is the knowledge I've gathered about the book by reading reviews, and articles by bloggers.

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on February 04, 2013
at 07:15 PM

Trying to eat to raise temperature doesn't work for me. Maybe glandulars would, but the functional medicine doc I went to checked and said there was nothing wrong. More calories improved my energy, which makes sense because the fat stores had dwindled, and I hadn't increased my calories appropriately to reflect that. Glandulars probably do increase the temp. reliably, but I don't have access, so I didn't experiment with them.

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on February 03, 2013
at 06:54 PM

*"My temperature never moved in the way Matt and others say it should"* What do you mean by that, August? Hypothyroidism can be the root cause of many ailments (something BB illustrated very well in his books, it even gets boring how much success he had with glandular treatment).

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on February 03, 2013
at 06:49 PM

Broda Barnes mentioned that even though cholesterol tests are okay to figure out if you have thyroid issues, temperature measurements are vastly superior. The idea that low thyroid comes with low temperature is pretty well-founded. Ray Peat finds it necessary to combine it with pulse measurements because it doesn't say enough if you're using electric blankets or if you live in a warm country (he states that, if the body is already in a warm environment, it doesn't require much metabolic energy to sustain a decent temperature).

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on February 01, 2013
at 07:10 PM

lol what how could you say that

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on January 31, 2013
at 08:30 PM

Yeah, body temp in and of itself tells you nothing. It may be more useless than just looking at a total cholesterol number.

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on January 31, 2013
at 07:53 PM

..kinda like the binge on saturated fat to increase Testosterone levels, instead of do things to lower estrogen production and promote a healthy T/E ratio such as reduce body fatness and increase muscle mass through exercise, sleep adequately, sun adequately, and eat adequately. Simply increase Test and you'll aslo increase E.

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on January 31, 2013
at 07:33 PM

Eating more as a method of burning calories will only make you fat. Oh, but a 300lb fatty burns more calories than a 120lb fatty. Darnit, it's a trap! It seems that mostly all diet books nowadays are looking for any means possible to circumvent exercise, even it means sacrificing one's greater health.

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on January 31, 2013
at 07:32 PM

Eating more as a method of burning calories will only make you fat. Oh, but a 300lb fatty burns more calories than a 120lb fatty. Darnit, it's a trap! It seems that all diet books now-a-days are (besides fitness ones) are looking for any means possible to circumvent exercise, even it means sacrificing one's greater health.

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on January 31, 2013
at 01:50 PM

And with this book he's pointing to 6, and it's noon.

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on January 31, 2013
at 12:58 PM

He's a broken clock, correct twice a day, no more.

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7bf306ada57db47547e9da39a415edf6

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on January 31, 2013
at 07:49 PM

This is somewhat seductive, but for anyone actually trying to achieve anything, it sucks. The trick is to get your goal to be getting your temperature to a certain point, and have you forget your goal was losing weight, or getting stronger, or running faster. This goal substitution seems to work because many of us, at least when we start out, don't have a clear understanding that we can't really serve two masters at once. So, folks are dieting and at the same time trying to bulk up. They are already working on this stuff in an unfocussed way and people like Matt show up and say- look at your temperature. So you look at your temperature, and while you are looking at your temperature you may even feel you make some gains, but that is largely because you are looking at your temperature and vaguely thinking about other contradictory goals. You think you are moving forward but are in reality doing little wheelies around in the dirt.

I've seen various iterations of this on the internet and I was even taking it a bit seriously because I lost my fat stores, but still stupidly didn't realize how much fat I needed to put in my diet now that I didn't have it on me anymore. The low temperature/hypothyroid thing seemed to make sense- then I started eating more and it went away. My temperature never moved in the way Matt and others say it should, so it isn't a good measure of progress, and if it is for you, it is probably predictive of weight gain.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on January 31, 2013
at 08:30 PM

Yeah, body temp in and of itself tells you nothing. It may be more useless than just looking at a total cholesterol number.

90ca1400d597cff69ec5f9c193c4d667

on February 01, 2013
at 07:10 PM

lol what how could you say that

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on February 03, 2013
at 06:49 PM

Broda Barnes mentioned that even though cholesterol tests are okay to figure out if you have thyroid issues, temperature measurements are vastly superior. The idea that low thyroid comes with low temperature is pretty well-founded. Ray Peat finds it necessary to combine it with pulse measurements because it doesn't say enough if you're using electric blankets or if you live in a warm country (he states that, if the body is already in a warm environment, it doesn't require much metabolic energy to sustain a decent temperature).

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on February 03, 2013
at 06:54 PM

*"My temperature never moved in the way Matt and others say it should"* What do you mean by that, August? Hypothyroidism can be the root cause of many ailments (something BB illustrated very well in his books, it even gets boring how much success he had with glandular treatment).

7bf306ada57db47547e9da39a415edf6

(11214)

on February 04, 2013
at 07:15 PM

Trying to eat to raise temperature doesn't work for me. Maybe glandulars would, but the functional medicine doc I went to checked and said there was nothing wrong. More calories improved my energy, which makes sense because the fat stores had dwindled, and I hadn't increased my calories appropriately to reflect that. Glandulars probably do increase the temp. reliably, but I don't have access, so I didn't experiment with them.

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on February 07, 2013
at 06:51 AM

I've been trying out "Eat for Heat" for almost 2 months now. Focused on destressing, eating salt, sugar, fats, carbs and proteins. Also sat on beaches and got a lot of sun. My coworkers think I'm nutty since I used to eat really healthy but now I'm eating ice-cream for breakfast.

The results? I'm feeling bloated and much more fat on my stomach. It's uncomfortable to wear my jeans. :(

Surprisingly, I haven't gained that much weight, but I'm not feeling awesome. Instead, I got a persistent UTI. Usually if I just drink cranberry juice or eat some tablets of cranberry extract it goes away -- but probably because of the highly concentrated urine I'm not able to. Finally got some antibiotics tonight since I can't deal with no being able to sleep anymore.

I think I may have to stop this program since it's not really helping and seems to be hurting me.

My basal body temps are getting higher, but that could be due to the normal female cycle. It doesn't make me feel any warmer at night.

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on February 07, 2013
at 12:36 PM

I've managed to get my temperature and metabolism up using Matt's methods. I did gain some weight... oddly, I gained several pounds and then lost most of it. Now I have gained again... I wouldn't be surprised if I end up losing it a second time in the next month or two.

I'm sympathetic to Matt's argument that the body needs to rehab from restrictive eating. There is certainly a psychological component. After doing this for a while, I have had the experience of deciding I was full in the middle of a pint of ice cream. This has basically never happened before.

I think there is something to the idea that, if you want to make your body crappy at handling modern stimuli, a good recipe is to completely avoid them.

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on March 07, 2013
at 11:23 PM

Has anyone tried this protocol? Even adding more honey/fruit/starch and cane sugar to their diet and feel better for it. It got me off the vlc cliff. However I still don't have any desire to eat crap (grains, GMOS, preservatives, chemicals, pasteurized dairy). A little less orthoetic, eliminated my anxiety, leaner for it. Speak up!!

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on January 31, 2013
at 07:28 PM

After reading it, I find myself constantly concerned that I am diluting my precious bodily fluids.

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on January 31, 2013
at 07:01 AM

yes however, i still avoid gluten and veg oils (pufa's)....make sure to have gelatin w/ muscle meats, and dairy...ray peat diet combined w/ eat for heat (dense, low-water foods)

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