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Protein intake and skin health?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 29, 2012 at 10:39 PM

Over the weekend I consumed no animal protein at all, and my skin looked less inflamed. Redness disappeared, my nose appeared to shrink, and my overall skin tone was like nothing I have seen before (on me of course). I have been having skin problems for a while now and I think they correlate to protein intake. I usually consume about a pound of animal flesh a day, but I notice most of my skin symptoms improve when I only consume about 90 grams of protein or less. I would love to reduce protein intake but then I wouldn't know what to eat. I am an athlete so I require a high calorie intake (anywhere from 3500-4000), but meals of purely fat and starch seem kind of awkward, and I am not down to chug on olive oil all day.

I once read a "quackish" website that claimed that "dirty proteins" were a cause of skin issues, but other than that I can't find any other reason why a higher protein intake would be bad for the skin. Any ideas?

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on August 31, 2012
at 10:30 AM

try to get a ratio of 1:1 or at least close if possible, I would go CLO not fish oil as my opinion which makes sense to me is that, cod liver oil is natural, the composition of the omega 3 (EPA DHA) is in the right NATURAL form where as fish oil isnt really in natural as its a combination of oils from fish thrown in with no natural specific composition. My opinion though

Adb6852b4f2f42904da67708ffcd59f5

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on August 31, 2012
at 10:29 AM

try to get a ratio of 1:1 or at least close if possible, I would go CLO not fish oil as my opinion which makes sense to me is that, cod liver oil is natural, the composition of the omega 3 (EPA DHA) is in the right NATURAL form where as fish oil is really natural as its a combination of oils from fish thrown in with no natural specific composition. My opinion though.

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on August 31, 2012
at 12:57 AM

Have you noticed any difference if you eliminated a protein source? Say no beef (gasp) and substituting chicken and fish or vice/versa?

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on August 30, 2012
at 10:47 PM

@physiquerescue...everything is wild caught or grass fed except the chicken breast. I eat a lot of vegetables. @ hardeepsura I meant a pound of starches per meal, and more post workout, usually about 3 pounds, so five pounds starches total. If I need more calories I dump lots of added fat, although I don't believe in refined oils, I need the calories.

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on August 30, 2012
at 10:42 PM

Yeah, I notice a high intake of olive oil isn't really to good for my skin. It could be the O3-06 ratio.

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on August 30, 2012
at 10:41 PM

Chicken breast is my only CAFO meat, the rest are all either wild or grassfed.

06ca9c524c28bc3fba95d4d90f8f43c6

on August 30, 2012
at 08:54 AM

I agree, there's a lot of calories missing with the information given above.

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on August 30, 2012
at 07:40 AM

how do you reach 3500-4000 calories a day with just eating what you eat?! I have done a very similar diet to you and off the top of my head, with the info you have given above, how does it equate near to even 2500 calories? ....or i may be missing something?

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on August 30, 2012
at 05:12 AM

amino acid profile - theyre usually very low in glycine (among a few more) relative to gelatinous cuts

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on August 30, 2012
at 04:20 AM

Unbalanced in what way?

06ca9c524c28bc3fba95d4d90f8f43c6

on August 30, 2012
at 03:29 AM

Is your beef grass-fed? Your fish wild caught? Or your chicken the non-hormone infused giant birds? Also not seeing a lot of non starchy vegetables in there either. Wondering if you could have a nutrient imbalence from just meat and starches. Do you take any supplements for deficiencies? perceived or otherwise?

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on August 30, 2012
at 03:12 AM

When you eat meat, is it grass-fed/organic/free-range/etc? CAFO meats might be more likely to cause inflammation.

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on August 30, 2012
at 12:38 AM

I typically eat about 3 meals a day, each consisting of 6 ounces of meat, about a pound of starches (more post workout), and a couple tablespoons of fat (olive, avocado oil) for extra calories. I consume lean chicken breast, salmon, tilapia, fatty beef, and ground turkey for protein, and sweet potatoes, white rice and plantains for starch. I have been eating like this for a while, but I notice when ever I reduce my meat intake to 6-8 ounces a day my skin looks and feels better.

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06ca9c524c28bc3fba95d4d90f8f43c6

on August 30, 2012
at 12:09 AM

Need some more info on what else you consume as part of your diet. By "animal flesh", do you mean the actual skin? or 1 pound of meat a day? 16oz of meat in a day really isn't an excessive amount. Even if you were consuming 70/30 ground beef, that would still only amount to around 1488 calories(64g protein, 134.4g Fat) where are the other 2600 Cal. coming from?

Something in your diet sounds inflammatory by the skin reaction you are getting. Post a typical day's diet and we'll go from there.

Adb6852b4f2f42904da67708ffcd59f5

(496)

on August 30, 2012
at 07:40 AM

how do you reach 3500-4000 calories a day with just eating what you eat?! I have done a very similar diet to you and off the top of my head, with the info you have given above, how does it equate near to even 2500 calories? ....or i may be missing something?

742ff8ba4ff55e84593ede14ac1c3cab

(3536)

on August 30, 2012
at 12:38 AM

I typically eat about 3 meals a day, each consisting of 6 ounces of meat, about a pound of starches (more post workout), and a couple tablespoons of fat (olive, avocado oil) for extra calories. I consume lean chicken breast, salmon, tilapia, fatty beef, and ground turkey for protein, and sweet potatoes, white rice and plantains for starch. I have been eating like this for a while, but I notice when ever I reduce my meat intake to 6-8 ounces a day my skin looks and feels better.

06ca9c524c28bc3fba95d4d90f8f43c6

on August 30, 2012
at 08:54 AM

I agree, there's a lot of calories missing with the information given above.

06ca9c524c28bc3fba95d4d90f8f43c6

on August 30, 2012
at 03:29 AM

Is your beef grass-fed? Your fish wild caught? Or your chicken the non-hormone infused giant birds? Also not seeing a lot of non starchy vegetables in there either. Wondering if you could have a nutrient imbalence from just meat and starches. Do you take any supplements for deficiencies? perceived or otherwise?

06ca9c524c28bc3fba95d4d90f8f43c6

on August 31, 2012
at 12:57 AM

Have you noticed any difference if you eliminated a protein source? Say no beef (gasp) and substituting chicken and fish or vice/versa?

742ff8ba4ff55e84593ede14ac1c3cab

(3536)

on August 30, 2012
at 10:47 PM

@physiquerescue...everything is wild caught or grass fed except the chicken breast. I eat a lot of vegetables. @ hardeepsura I meant a pound of starches per meal, and more post workout, usually about 3 pounds, so five pounds starches total. If I need more calories I dump lots of added fat, although I don't believe in refined oils, I need the calories.

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on August 30, 2012
at 03:00 AM

Animal flesh contains an unbalanced amino acid profile. You could try substituting bone broth (gelatin) and dairy protein (if you tolerate it of course) for some of the animal flesh. Even switching to fish/seafood might help.

6b365c14c646462210f3ef6b6fecace1

(1784)

on August 30, 2012
at 05:12 AM

amino acid profile - theyre usually very low in glycine (among a few more) relative to gelatinous cuts

A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

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on August 30, 2012
at 04:20 AM

Unbalanced in what way?

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Adb6852b4f2f42904da67708ffcd59f5

on August 30, 2012
at 07:37 AM

it might be when you consume more meat, your ratios of omega 3:omega 6 may go higher depending on what food you eat that day? Omega 6 may creep up and I believe this has an affect on my experience.

Also EVOO doesnt help my skin as if I have too much, my Omega 6 increased with just a tablespoon because the ratios are really great, hence why it is only recommended sparingly.

Adb6852b4f2f42904da67708ffcd59f5

(496)

on August 31, 2012
at 10:29 AM

try to get a ratio of 1:1 or at least close if possible, I would go CLO not fish oil as my opinion which makes sense to me is that, cod liver oil is natural, the composition of the omega 3 (EPA DHA) is in the right NATURAL form where as fish oil is really natural as its a combination of oils from fish thrown in with no natural specific composition. My opinion though.

742ff8ba4ff55e84593ede14ac1c3cab

(3536)

on August 30, 2012
at 10:42 PM

Yeah, I notice a high intake of olive oil isn't really to good for my skin. It could be the O3-06 ratio.

Adb6852b4f2f42904da67708ffcd59f5

(496)

on August 31, 2012
at 10:30 AM

try to get a ratio of 1:1 or at least close if possible, I would go CLO not fish oil as my opinion which makes sense to me is that, cod liver oil is natural, the composition of the omega 3 (EPA DHA) is in the right NATURAL form where as fish oil isnt really in natural as its a combination of oils from fish thrown in with no natural specific composition. My opinion though

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