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New Meat Eater - Any reason my face would be flushing after eating meat?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 18, 2011 at 10:20 PM

I've been looking around the site and I couldn't find this question.

After about 15 years of vegetarianism I have decided to reintroduce meat. I have been eating grass fed beef for about 3 weeks now and I notice that after eating it I get really hot and my face starts to flush. It's not terribly bothersome but it is a weird feeling to have after eating. Any idea where this is coming from?

The only other animal I have eaten is tuna, and I did not have this same sensation.

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on April 19, 2011
at 06:52 PM

I was eating a much lower % of fat. So that could be it.

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on April 19, 2011
at 01:54 PM

If you happen to be histamine intolerant there are a lot of foods which add to the histmine level you ingest: old cheese, wine, meat and fish (if it is not 100% fresh), certain vegetables (tomatoes, avocados, spinach), etc. The reaction you may have is like a allergetic reaction: flush, raised bodyheat, raised heart beat rate, irritation, trouble breathing, digestive problems like diarrhea, cramps, etc. There is a test for histaminic intollerance. Be sure to take both: the stool and the blood test.

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on April 19, 2011
at 02:40 AM

If you haven't been ingesting much fat recently, its also possible you're experiencing a body temperature rise due to the fat ingestion. How much fat were you eating before as a vegetarian?

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on April 19, 2011
at 01:55 AM

dosage of Niacin is also important. Below 2 gms its considered a vitamin above it its considered a drug and has radical effects on HDL.

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on April 18, 2011
at 11:06 PM

While the Niacin causes the flushing, im with Wheelhouse. Euphoria induced Niacin Flush. honest!

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on April 18, 2011
at 10:48 PM

Eric is likely correct. Micronized Niacin does not cause this.

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on April 18, 2011
at 10:41 PM

I think it has to do with the Niacin content of red meat. Niacin will cause flushing, if I remember correctly.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on April 18, 2011
at 10:48 PM

Eric is likely correct. Micronized Niacin does not cause this.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on April 19, 2011
at 01:55 AM

dosage of Niacin is also important. Below 2 gms its considered a vitamin above it its considered a drug and has radical effects on HDL.

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on April 18, 2011
at 10:58 PM

I believe its called "euphoria" ;-)

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

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on April 18, 2011
at 11:06 PM

While the Niacin causes the flushing, im with Wheelhouse. Euphoria induced Niacin Flush. honest!

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on April 19, 2011
at 05:55 AM

Perhaps it's rather the histamine content of the Parmesan cheese than the ground beef (if it is realy fresh)... If you are histamie intolerant the high histamine and other biogen amines content will cause the flushing. And perhaps your heart beat rate will increase too, making it hard too get to sleep at night?

18629c8c8239ebf697087ce469823bf1

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on April 19, 2011
at 01:54 PM

If you happen to be histamine intolerant there are a lot of foods which add to the histmine level you ingest: old cheese, wine, meat and fish (if it is not 100% fresh), certain vegetables (tomatoes, avocados, spinach), etc. The reaction you may have is like a allergetic reaction: flush, raised bodyheat, raised heart beat rate, irritation, trouble breathing, digestive problems like diarrhea, cramps, etc. There is a test for histaminic intollerance. Be sure to take both: the stool and the blood test.

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on April 19, 2011
at 08:37 AM

How much meat are you eating? Protein is thermogenic so it should make you warmer and maybe a little flushed. I doubt most meat-eaters would notice it, but a long-term vegetarian might.

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on April 19, 2011
at 02:28 AM

Thanks for the replies. I have been getting grass-fed beef at whole foods. I also have been eating some grass fed bision. In general I know I'm not eating enough but it has been hard to relearn how/what to eat.

Here is a sample day: hardboiled eggs and ~ an ounce of cheese. Heavy cream in coffee. Meatballs (ground beef, egg, Parmesan cheese, almond flour, some spices) cooked in cocunut oil. Small mixed green salad tomatoes, mushrooms. A handful of almonds. In general fitday Is averaging 1000 cals, 75% fat, 20% protein, 5% carbs.

The flush only happens with the beef, it happened the other night when I had grass fed steak and asparagus. The only other similarity is that these were both cooked in cocunut oil and this is new item for me as well.

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on April 19, 2011
at 02:40 AM

If you haven't been ingesting much fat recently, its also possible you're experiencing a body temperature rise due to the fat ingestion. How much fat were you eating before as a vegetarian?

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on April 19, 2011
at 06:52 PM

I was eating a much lower % of fat. So that could be it.

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on April 19, 2011
at 01:33 AM

What are you eating w/ the meat? It's possible that it's sodium-related (doubt it's b12), but I'd look around for excess carbs (esp fast carbs) as the culprit before assuming that it's the meat. Do some trial and error on meals: a meal like slow-cooked roast w/ carrots, potatoes, onions, and apples will have a much higher carb spike than ribeye over kale. If there are no obvious high-GI sources: Is it more pronounced at lunch (maybe tied to caffeine sources)? Where are you sourcing your meat from? Does preceding those meals w/ rigorous exercise seem to have any effect?

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