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Last question on the topic of my bizarre symptoms..

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created January 24, 2013 at 5:03 AM

Hey PaleoHacker's, If anyone is willing to read through this all and help, i don't know, I'll do anything to repay for the advice I'll receive...I've asked a couple questions about a set (rather large set) of symptoms I've been having for a relatively long time now (almost a full year). I've recently done some experimenting and found a few things that seem to help, some that seem to aggravate, and some things I'm considering doing. This is where I'll need every ones help. I'll start with the back story and then get into the specific symptoms, and my theory as to why I developed them.

Background: When I was born I was anemic and was rushed off by the doctors; I'm not certain what they did, I think I had to be put under a light to heat up or something because I was also very cold. I had an iron deficiency and at a young age I remember going to my pediatrician who remained my doctor up until I was about 15 or 16, to get weekly iron shots as a young child. All through my life until fairly recently (when I went organic, eating little to no processed junk, supplemented) I would get sick frequently, and not only that, but it would take me MUCH longer to fight off bugs that other people would fight off in a day or two, and it would be more intense. There were 3 things I got very frequently: Sore throat; intense headaches + nausea; chronic intense stomach aches + stomach flu's. I remember taking so much damn Pepto Bismol it's almost scary. I also have received 2 concussions within 6 months of each other, and a back injury that has resulted as a disc bulge in my upper back (forget which cervical area), possibly other head injuries as there were many times in football I took a blow to the head and suffered severe headaches but continued to play on. I've also had eye floaters for years and "visual snow" almost all my life. When I was 16 I saw a family psychologist for 'depression/stress' although I was never diagnosed with depression... I believe he just thought I was under intense stress from a lot of family problems and constant moving/financial burdens. There is anxiety/migraines in the family, digestive disorders, and only one known case of Dementia, otherwise everyone lives until their 70-80's and normally is afflicted by alcohol/tobacco/stress from gambling and money + extremely processed SAD diet. I also cracked my head open as a youngin'.

My Symptoms: Eye Floaters, they have increased in the past year; "Visual Snow" - been there most of my life, more noticeable when in the dark or very well lit areas, my school has fluorescent lighting in every single room, it's extremely present in my school or outside when looking at the sky; "Migraine w/ Aura" - I put this in quotes because I'm not confident that's what I have, although I share symptoms of migraineurs, I was diagnosed with these from a doctor I was seeing for my back, so neurology isn't his specialty; Back pain + stiffness, neck pan + stiffness - I can be wrong, but when looking in the mirror this seems to slightly affect my posture and stance, it seems as if my hips are very slightly imbalanced and my head very slightly perched forward, as well as my shoulders - there is an area in my back/spine where the vertebrae seems further spaced apart than all the others, and that's typically where I have the pain/stiffness; My "migraine" symptoms: I have very severe 'afterburns/images', if I see I bright light/flash, it stays in my vision for a very long time; sometimes when I have a "migraine" if I'm looking at my t.v./laptop screen for a prolonged period, and look away, at a wall perhaps, I see a bright, multicolored outline of the screen for some odd seconds; sometimes when I concentrate on something, it seems as if my eyes move out of position for a second, causing a juggle/vibration in my vision; things occasionally have a shimmer to them - or a perceived slight movement, typically if I stare at an object for some amount of time, or also in my peripheral vision; at night when driving, and only when IN the car, there is an 'aura' around street signs, the only thing I can relate it to is the 'blur' around a light, a street light, it's like that, there is a 'blur' around the edges of the street sign that fade as I get close; anxiety - my mind races and I seem to be able to put up with stress for a prolonged time - but then eventually burst... coming to the point of what I perceive as being at the brink of a panic attack, but never getting there (although I have never fully had one, I don't think); I also see an odd aura at various times, but almost every day - people who have visual migraines often have various odd things happen to their vision, sometimes so much that they are mislabled as schizophrenic - I sometimes have blobs of color: red/pink/blue in my peripheral vision, or lower vision - although this is more of an annoyance

My theory: 1) This is caused by a combination of my trauma to the head + back/neck problems + possible muscle imbalances/jaw imbalances; 2) never was one for smoking, but i have smoked a cigarette before, then never did it again... until this concert. took one puff and was completely intoxicated, it was laced. My friend picked it up off the ground and even acknowledged it and he is a long time smoker and has used plenty of substances, up until this time too I had done extreme amounts of research on psychedelics and experimented, I knew this was laced - my symptoms started shortly after this. I firmly believe this was PCP or embalming fluid - both of which are Anticholingeric: a substance that blocks the neurotransmitter acetylcholine in the central and the peripheral nervous system. symptoms of Acute Anticholinergic Syndrome: there are too many to count but I have some such as: Pupil dilation (mydriasis), consequent sensitivity to bright light (photophobia); Increased heart rate (tachycardia),Tendency to be easily startled;Disorientation; Wandering thoughts; inability to sustain a train of thought Periodic flashes of light; Periodic changes in visual field;*Warping or waving of surfaces and edges*;Orthostatic hypotension (sudden dropping of systolic blood pressure when standing up suddenly) and significantly increased risk of falls in the elderly population I believe these are acutely perceived after taking in a deliriant(PCP is one of many); fortunately it says this is reversible. I do know when eating lot's of coconut/mct, consuming lot's of high quality coffee (bulletproof or shade-grown/organic/single-sourced) and eating lots of cholesterol (eggs which also have lot's of choline) most of the symptoms are less noticeable, or completely subside for days.

My thoughts on "curing" myself: (1) 100% paleo/primal now that I have a job (or bulletproof diet, or perfect health diet) (2) get extensive testing done for vitamin D and optimize my levels - get up to like 70 (3) demand to see a neurologist and have testing done (4) use neurofeedback and/or biofeedback (5) use earthing mats as per Clint Ober/Earthing Institute (6) take a plethora of scientifically validated supplements - vitamin d3, mct oil, tons of coconut as food/cooking oil, liposomal glutathione, etc. (7) GAPS Diet (8) keto diet... I have been experimenting with keto the past couple weeks (have done so in past as well) and had almost complete elimination of 'migraines' - the only thing is I need to gain weight, so the only way I can do that on keto is by doing a cyclical keto diet or anabolic style diet, but it's hard with family/fiance/relatives, as well as jiu-jitsu... I have put together 600+ pages of research on ketogenic diets from medical journals sourced from pubmed, The Eating Academy Blog, Perfect Health Diet Blog, and numerous symposiums by Gary Taubes. Everything is cited and highlighted, boldened, reread multiple times, etc. I have seen numerous accounts of schizophrenia being reversed by refraining from gluten, or going ketogenic. I'm quite confident in a keto diet with some safe starch included as per Paul Jaminet, PhD; But again, I need to gain weight.

Please, if anyone has ANY possible anecdotes/evidence/suggestions, anything, any insight, I will be greatly appreciative. Thank you so much.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 29, 2013
at 06:42 PM

Cool dude, I'm doing well, I'm actually doing the potato n meat thing again to get my weight up to 220+ area. It worked so well last time (from 180lb-200lb in 1-2 months) and I stayed lean (8-12%bf), so I've started eating 6k+ calorie/day till I get fat,sick or reach 220+. I'm doing HIIT at the same time and seeing lean gains. I'll update my profile pic when I hit 220+. Best of luck man, it definitely can be done though, I weighed 165 March of last year 180 in November and I'm 200+ no clothes right now. Cheers. **Time to go stuff food in my mouth**, Take care bro.

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on January 29, 2013
at 01:03 PM

hard, I say, great maxim to live by (play hard too). Thanks for tips again bro, intuitively I think the old meat and starch diet might well work for me as well (copious grains, fruit and dairy never seemed to yield results lol... maybe a 'leaky gut' is linked to hardgaining'. Anyway, cheers dude, hope you're well/I wish you well

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on January 29, 2013
at 12:51 PM

(me in the past) seem to rationalise eating to such an extent that sensitivity to what one's body actually wants/needs is lost. Trying to 'be healthy' can actually manifest in one acting quite unhealthily...Perfect and the good and all that... When I'm lifting/sprinting these days though I daresay eating well on the side could actually result in some levels of increased health/me cultivating the creation of a 'metabolic furnace'... I looked at sprint 8, thanks. Looks good, similar to 'tabata' sprints which I've done a little of in the past am increasingly doing again. 'Work hard, Recover

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on January 29, 2013
at 12:44 PM

Hey dude, thanks for the advice/sentiment. I definitely agree that there is no substitute for personal trial and error when it comes to 'hacking' one's health/wellbeing. When I was in mid teen I tried lifting a bit and despite trying to lift heavy, don't think the dietary side was quite there (I was a 'hardgainer' to some degree). However, life is full of fun and learning, and I'm perhap in a position now of being with an (ever expanding) awareness of things to 'do some shit'. I've probably been a bit neurotic about food in the past but have learnt about 'listening as well' - so often people

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 25, 2013
at 08:18 PM

thanks very much, i hope I do as well. My dream is to start competing in jiu-jitsu tournaments but all of this is standing in the way by adding so much unneeded stress/tension/anxiety. But I won't go down without a fight! lol

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 25, 2013
at 03:36 PM

My advice is only good to the degree that it gets you results, take it with a grain of salt, remember, it worked for me and that you might have to tweak it to make it work for you. That being said, eat a HUGE calorie surplus, eat a huge calorie surplus, until you see results eat eat eat. Eat potatoes to spike than insulin and store those nutrients , eat eat eat (along with HIIT). Over time your view on life will become more anabolic, you'll see that you can act on the world instead of having the world act on you. GL reaching your goals br

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 25, 2013
at 03:31 PM

If you're looking to gain significant mass (20-30+lbs) and you're already naturally lean then I'd recommend HIIT 3 days a week, specifically the sprint 8 protocol. I'd recommend resistance training, bench, pullups, dips any big exercise is great. And very importantly I'd recommend a big calorie surplus, since you're doing HIIT correctly, you won't gain much fat, especially since you're naturally lean (to me beef and potatoes was crux). Also, Always listen to your body, you're instinct is usually right and a better guide than what I or anyone else can tell you.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 25, 2013
at 03:26 PM

Eating carbs post workout (0-1:30) post workout is great for muscle recovery, HOWEVER, carbs will completely stunt hgh release, so I recommend you wait an hour-2 from the time you finish your HIIT until te time you eat. Even a sip of Gatorade will stifle the hormonal response to a degree. One of the most important things I learned is to listen to your body, and don't be a nazi about food, lol. If you want chicken, eat chicken, fish, eat fish, beef, eat beef. Fast twitch muscles take up to 48 hours to repair, you'll be building muscle this entire time, especially while you sleep.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 25, 2013
at 03:21 PM

Hey Michael, I am a naturally lean individual and in the beginning it was difficult for me to put on mass. HIIT and lifting heavy are definitely cornerstones to adding mass to your frame. Eating carbs was also crucial to gaining for me, however, for whatever reason whole food starches helped while sugar, wheat and grains didn't seem to help at all. What I mean is that tubs of Haagen Dazs did nothing for me, while eating pounds of peeled white potatoes helped me a ton. I think that might have something to do with the potassium in potatoes but I can't prove that.

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on January 25, 2013
at 01:22 PM

Don't have anything to say that could help hope you sort things/get well dude...

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on January 25, 2013
at 01:21 PM

Stephen, I am 21, 165lbs, always been pretty lean, playing soccer al my life. Am beginning to think that weight gain/increasing lean mass wouldn't be all that bad. I read a lot and trying to put things together a bit lately, and interested in your experience. Would you say doing hiit, timing carbs to the post exercise period, and some heavy lifting (eg bench press) would be the simplest way of increasing lean mass? cheers

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 24, 2013
at 09:33 PM

Low carb won't get you the weight you want though man. I know because I tried it, for months. Carbs and insulin are fine for us hardgainers, our bodies digest carbs better than endomorphs. I'd still be careful to get carbs from only potatoes or tubers and try not to get a lot from grains and sugars, they dont help. My email is in my profile, if you want any advice, you can hit me up sometime, put something in your title though so ik it's not spam.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 24, 2013
at 09:28 PM

Going to college*

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 24, 2013
at 09:28 PM

Meat and potatoes. You can even buy a deep fryer, put butter or coconut il in it and eat French fries. Eat good oil French fries, red meat, cheese s optional, seafood, like oysters and sardines and include some HIIT training. Basically you want to get your body anabolic, so it's never a bad time to eat as long as you're doing HIIT.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 24, 2013
at 09:26 PM

Yea dude, just gain the weight man, get up to 160. You're only 18 which is awesome, I'm 22 now, but when I was 18 I was skinny also, probably about the same bmi as you. I didn't really focus on gaining weight till I turned 22 and I wish I would've done it in high school. Idk if you're going to. Pledge, but if you are, girls like a man with a little weight on him, tbh I'd aim for 160-170 over 12 months. You could probably do it in a little less but it just depends. Trust me when I tell you your anxiety issues will fade as you increase your weight. Include canned oysters ,they are cheap, and red

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 24, 2013
at 09:17 PM

Ideally I would honestly want to be aroun 170, I can easily see myself being 160 or so at my current height, but I can quite honestly see myself still growing an inch or two, and that's not even with correcting my messed up posture/slightly perched forward neck. In that case I'd definitely want to get up to about 170

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 24, 2013
at 09:15 PM

I'm roughly 5'8, 137-8lbs at 18yrs old... to be honest though I seem to still be getting taller, I have grown recently and still seem to be slowly, so I don't know exactly how tall I'll end up being. I do have a solid foundation of muscle though from years of football and wrestling and consistent weightlifting the past 6-7months. Judging me by my waist or calves I would seem reallyy skinny, but other body parts are very thick/dense and muscular.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 24, 2013
at 08:51 PM

Yea, from what I can tell that's the gist of emf2, though, he goes into a little more detail with tdcs, ect, ct and seafood. Also he doesn't mention HIIT, which I think he should..

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 24, 2013
at 08:50 PM

If I were you,I'd gain the weight first, then you can do HIIT, you can do cold therapy, you can follow a certain diet. All that stuff will behind, once you first gain that muscle/weight. What is your height and weight now?

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 24, 2013
at 08:49 PM

Sweet potatoes constipate me big time. To gain weight I'm saying I had to eat pounds after pounds of potatoes, stuffing my face till I was gonna puke,lol. I'm not sure if you're a hardgainer/ectomorph body type like I was. You might not need to take it as extreme as I did. But gaining weight definitely helped me feel a lot better. And I wasn't clinically underweight for my height either, I just looked underweight. But not eating enough is catabolic, worrying is catabolic. I had to redefine my relationship with food big time to get healthy.

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 24, 2013
at 08:47 PM

haha i know... I typically only eat meat (ruminant animals - beef/lamb, almost no chicken/turkey due to n6) and veggies, typically broccoli and spinach, along with plenty of sweet potatoes; I was just toying around with carb back-loading and at the end of my "back-load" had some trader joe's ice cream and within an hour I felt off. I think I'm basically going to cut out all dairy besides the butter/heavy whipping cream I consume, because that doesn't seem to have an effect right now (although I've never cut it out, so idk)... maybe has something to do with lower amounts of casein?

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 24, 2013
at 08:44 PM

So wouldn't earthing mats do just that? I'm pretty sure from what I've listened to from Clint Ober is that your attaching yourself to Earth's seemingly infinite flow of electrons/electrical charges, and there's research to show it has affects on blood viscosity and pressure, circulation, stroke volume, etc. let alone it's affects on inflammation and sleep improvement and more. I've been thinking about buying a universal earthing mat and using it for 30-40mins a day and starting to sleep in complete darkness to see if that improves anything.

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 24, 2013
at 08:41 PM

Yeah I've been toying around with carb back-loading a bit and eating lot's of organic sweet potatoes with coconut oil and sometimes mix up some stevia in there if i'm really craving something sweet and don't wanna eat a bunch of junk... I can tell it would be easy to gain muscle this way, I'm just stuck between deciding to take my symptoms head on and hold off on muscle/strength gain for a few weeks, or gain the weight and do the opposite

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 24, 2013
at 08:25 PM

Like organic peeled potatoes were instrumental in me gaining my last 20 pounds

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 24, 2013
at 08:23 PM

Yea dude, if I were you i'd focus most of my attention on just gaining weight man. Tbh, the more carbs you eat the faster you'll gain weight. I've tried the low carb thing when I was at 178 area, and weight gain was veryyy slow no matter how much I ate. After introducing carbs, specifically potatoes, I started seeing marked weight gain. I'd do so etching like HIIT along with eating lots of carbs to make sure you gain muscle, not fat.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 24, 2013
at 08:21 PM

He's saying you need to improve mitochondrial function and hook your body up with negative electrons which is partly true because that's something most people need to do. I don't see how this addresses your issue of needing to gain weight, but it might address your issue of anxiety.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on January 24, 2013
at 08:00 PM

No ice cream for you :) Or any processed foods. You should only have WHOLE foods.

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 24, 2013
at 07:55 PM

thanks for your input as well

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 24, 2013
at 07:55 PM

I was in fact thinking about eliminating dairy/nightshades; I've noticed recently that when I ate this organic grass-fed non homogenized (but not raw) i felt fine; but the the past couple days when I took a few scoops of icecream, or the day after ate my moms yogurt, I had a migraine and also had terrible digestive issues.

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 24, 2013
at 07:22 PM

Scenario would be strict keto diet with 50g of safe starch plus a plethora of MCT's and ketogenic Amino Acids

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 24, 2013
at 07:21 PM

thanks for your input. I really appreciate it. I didn't realize the price of oyster's and i've heard so much recently about how much of a powerful addition they can make to the diet. As I said I'm currently trying to gain weight (muscle) so this falls in line with that. I'm thinking for the next few weeks I'll just take in the carb amount recommended by Paul Jaminet from the Perfect Health Diet, about 150g on w/o days, and about 50g from starch (not including veggies) on rest days, and see if I can manage my other symptoms by sharpening up the diet and testing for deficiencies. Last case

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 24, 2013
at 07:17 PM

Can you elaborate at all Dr. Kruse? It's funny you commented on this because I was thinking about how lot's of people often criticize you so I went and listened to, and annotated, all of your appearances on various podcasts regarding CT, and it seemed very intelligent, and the controlled studies I've read back what you have said. That being said, I'm sorry but I'm not sure what you are getting at... I should reduce the dirty electricity in my home maybe? I don't fully understand... what's your take on neurofeedback/CES then?

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on January 24, 2013
at 02:26 PM

wow.... alots to read... thanks

863fbe3ea7cacba9a77b19a09bf445cf

on January 24, 2013
at 02:02 PM

And they will still be calling BS on you.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on January 24, 2013
at 01:42 PM

many called BS on me.......today I am showing you my hand.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on January 24, 2013
at 01:41 PM

Here is an example of what you describe........we are all dying. http://sunvalleysoul.blogspot.com/

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Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 24, 2013
at 12:47 PM

Alright, well tbh I've been skinny, stressed and with back problems. I've had eye floaters and auras around signs or what not and a vision doctor told ME that was normal, so idk. If you have a disk problem one of the best things you can do is have more muscles to support your back. My neck bothered me till I gained 50ish pounds (6'3"@200lbs now).

So to focus more on your anxiety and back, I say eat at a huge calorie surplus and INCLUDE CARBS to gain that weight. That worked for me. Once you increase lean body mass, your anxiety will go down inversely, that's how it happened with me.

You used to be anemic, okay, well, oysters are 800% rda of b12 in a half pound and they also have a bunch of iron. In addition to that oysters have dopamine which might help with your anxiety and zinc/copper that will give your body what it needs to make more testosterone, which is very anabolic. Canned bumblebee oysters are $2.00 at Walmart for 8oz(1/2 pound) and I'd recommend at least 1 can a day on top of what you already eat.

Gl, post any questions, comments or concerns, I've experienced a lot of what you have and could probably talk days on the subject. These opinions are just what worked for me.

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 24, 2013
at 09:15 PM

I'm roughly 5'8, 137-8lbs at 18yrs old... to be honest though I seem to still be getting taller, I have grown recently and still seem to be slowly, so I don't know exactly how tall I'll end up being. I do have a solid foundation of muscle though from years of football and wrestling and consistent weightlifting the past 6-7months. Judging me by my waist or calves I would seem reallyy skinny, but other body parts are very thick/dense and muscular.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 24, 2013
at 09:26 PM

Yea dude, just gain the weight man, get up to 160. You're only 18 which is awesome, I'm 22 now, but when I was 18 I was skinny also, probably about the same bmi as you. I didn't really focus on gaining weight till I turned 22 and I wish I would've done it in high school. Idk if you're going to. Pledge, but if you are, girls like a man with a little weight on him, tbh I'd aim for 160-170 over 12 months. You could probably do it in a little less but it just depends. Trust me when I tell you your anxiety issues will fade as you increase your weight. Include canned oysters ,they are cheap, and red

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 24, 2013
at 08:23 PM

Yea dude, if I were you i'd focus most of my attention on just gaining weight man. Tbh, the more carbs you eat the faster you'll gain weight. I've tried the low carb thing when I was at 178 area, and weight gain was veryyy slow no matter how much I ate. After introducing carbs, specifically potatoes, I started seeing marked weight gain. I'd do so etching like HIIT along with eating lots of carbs to make sure you gain muscle, not fat.

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 24, 2013
at 09:17 PM

Ideally I would honestly want to be aroun 170, I can easily see myself being 160 or so at my current height, but I can quite honestly see myself still growing an inch or two, and that's not even with correcting my messed up posture/slightly perched forward neck. In that case I'd definitely want to get up to about 170

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 24, 2013
at 07:22 PM

Scenario would be strict keto diet with 50g of safe starch plus a plethora of MCT's and ketogenic Amino Acids

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 24, 2013
at 09:28 PM

Going to college*

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 25, 2013
at 03:21 PM

Hey Michael, I am a naturally lean individual and in the beginning it was difficult for me to put on mass. HIIT and lifting heavy are definitely cornerstones to adding mass to your frame. Eating carbs was also crucial to gaining for me, however, for whatever reason whole food starches helped while sugar, wheat and grains didn't seem to help at all. What I mean is that tubs of Haagen Dazs did nothing for me, while eating pounds of peeled white potatoes helped me a ton. I think that might have something to do with the potassium in potatoes but I can't prove that.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 24, 2013
at 08:25 PM

Like organic peeled potatoes were instrumental in me gaining my last 20 pounds

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 24, 2013
at 09:33 PM

Low carb won't get you the weight you want though man. I know because I tried it, for months. Carbs and insulin are fine for us hardgainers, our bodies digest carbs better than endomorphs. I'd still be careful to get carbs from only potatoes or tubers and try not to get a lot from grains and sugars, they dont help. My email is in my profile, if you want any advice, you can hit me up sometime, put something in your title though so ik it's not spam.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 25, 2013
at 03:36 PM

My advice is only good to the degree that it gets you results, take it with a grain of salt, remember, it worked for me and that you might have to tweak it to make it work for you. That being said, eat a HUGE calorie surplus, eat a huge calorie surplus, until you see results eat eat eat. Eat potatoes to spike than insulin and store those nutrients , eat eat eat (along with HIIT). Over time your view on life will become more anabolic, you'll see that you can act on the world instead of having the world act on you. GL reaching your goals br

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 24, 2013
at 08:41 PM

Yeah I've been toying around with carb back-loading a bit and eating lot's of organic sweet potatoes with coconut oil and sometimes mix up some stevia in there if i'm really craving something sweet and don't wanna eat a bunch of junk... I can tell it would be easy to gain muscle this way, I'm just stuck between deciding to take my symptoms head on and hold off on muscle/strength gain for a few weeks, or gain the weight and do the opposite

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 24, 2013
at 08:50 PM

If I were you,I'd gain the weight first, then you can do HIIT, you can do cold therapy, you can follow a certain diet. All that stuff will behind, once you first gain that muscle/weight. What is your height and weight now?

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 24, 2013
at 09:28 PM

Meat and potatoes. You can even buy a deep fryer, put butter or coconut il in it and eat French fries. Eat good oil French fries, red meat, cheese s optional, seafood, like oysters and sardines and include some HIIT training. Basically you want to get your body anabolic, so it's never a bad time to eat as long as you're doing HIIT.

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on January 25, 2013
at 01:21 PM

Stephen, I am 21, 165lbs, always been pretty lean, playing soccer al my life. Am beginning to think that weight gain/increasing lean mass wouldn't be all that bad. I read a lot and trying to put things together a bit lately, and interested in your experience. Would you say doing hiit, timing carbs to the post exercise period, and some heavy lifting (eg bench press) would be the simplest way of increasing lean mass? cheers

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 24, 2013
at 07:21 PM

thanks for your input. I really appreciate it. I didn't realize the price of oyster's and i've heard so much recently about how much of a powerful addition they can make to the diet. As I said I'm currently trying to gain weight (muscle) so this falls in line with that. I'm thinking for the next few weeks I'll just take in the carb amount recommended by Paul Jaminet from the Perfect Health Diet, about 150g on w/o days, and about 50g from starch (not including veggies) on rest days, and see if I can manage my other symptoms by sharpening up the diet and testing for deficiencies. Last case

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 24, 2013
at 08:49 PM

Sweet potatoes constipate me big time. To gain weight I'm saying I had to eat pounds after pounds of potatoes, stuffing my face till I was gonna puke,lol. I'm not sure if you're a hardgainer/ectomorph body type like I was. You might not need to take it as extreme as I did. But gaining weight definitely helped me feel a lot better. And I wasn't clinically underweight for my height either, I just looked underweight. But not eating enough is catabolic, worrying is catabolic. I had to redefine my relationship with food big time to get healthy.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 25, 2013
at 03:26 PM

Eating carbs post workout (0-1:30) post workout is great for muscle recovery, HOWEVER, carbs will completely stunt hgh release, so I recommend you wait an hour-2 from the time you finish your HIIT until te time you eat. Even a sip of Gatorade will stifle the hormonal response to a degree. One of the most important things I learned is to listen to your body, and don't be a nazi about food, lol. If you want chicken, eat chicken, fish, eat fish, beef, eat beef. Fast twitch muscles take up to 48 hours to repair, you'll be building muscle this entire time, especially while you sleep.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 25, 2013
at 03:31 PM

If you're looking to gain significant mass (20-30+lbs) and you're already naturally lean then I'd recommend HIIT 3 days a week, specifically the sprint 8 protocol. I'd recommend resistance training, bench, pullups, dips any big exercise is great. And very importantly I'd recommend a big calorie surplus, since you're doing HIIT correctly, you won't gain much fat, especially since you're naturally lean (to me beef and potatoes was crux). Also, Always listen to your body, you're instinct is usually right and a better guide than what I or anyone else can tell you.

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on January 29, 2013
at 01:03 PM

hard, I say, great maxim to live by (play hard too). Thanks for tips again bro, intuitively I think the old meat and starch diet might well work for me as well (copious grains, fruit and dairy never seemed to yield results lol... maybe a 'leaky gut' is linked to hardgaining'. Anyway, cheers dude, hope you're well/I wish you well

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on January 29, 2013
at 12:44 PM

Hey dude, thanks for the advice/sentiment. I definitely agree that there is no substitute for personal trial and error when it comes to 'hacking' one's health/wellbeing. When I was in mid teen I tried lifting a bit and despite trying to lift heavy, don't think the dietary side was quite there (I was a 'hardgainer' to some degree). However, life is full of fun and learning, and I'm perhap in a position now of being with an (ever expanding) awareness of things to 'do some shit'. I've probably been a bit neurotic about food in the past but have learnt about 'listening as well' - so often people

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 29, 2013
at 06:42 PM

Cool dude, I'm doing well, I'm actually doing the potato n meat thing again to get my weight up to 220+ area. It worked so well last time (from 180lb-200lb in 1-2 months) and I stayed lean (8-12%bf), so I've started eating 6k+ calorie/day till I get fat,sick or reach 220+. I'm doing HIIT at the same time and seeing lean gains. I'll update my profile pic when I hit 220+. Best of luck man, it definitely can be done though, I weighed 165 March of last year 180 in November and I'm 200+ no clothes right now. Cheers. **Time to go stuff food in my mouth**, Take care bro.

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on January 29, 2013
at 12:51 PM

(me in the past) seem to rationalise eating to such an extent that sensitivity to what one's body actually wants/needs is lost. Trying to 'be healthy' can actually manifest in one acting quite unhealthily...Perfect and the good and all that... When I'm lifting/sprinting these days though I daresay eating well on the side could actually result in some levels of increased health/me cultivating the creation of a 'metabolic furnace'... I looked at sprint 8, thanks. Looks good, similar to 'tabata' sprints which I've done a little of in the past am increasingly doing again. 'Work hard, Recover

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on January 24, 2013
at 01:22 PM

http://www.jackkruse.com/emf-2-einstein-meet-leptin/ Here is you answer..........and many more of your answers.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 24, 2013
at 08:21 PM

He's saying you need to improve mitochondrial function and hook your body up with negative electrons which is partly true because that's something most people need to do. I don't see how this addresses your issue of needing to gain weight, but it might address your issue of anxiety.

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on January 24, 2013
at 02:02 PM

And they will still be calling BS on you.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on January 24, 2013
at 01:41 PM

Here is an example of what you describe........we are all dying. http://sunvalleysoul.blogspot.com/

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on January 24, 2013
at 02:26 PM

wow.... alots to read... thanks

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 24, 2013
at 08:51 PM

Yea, from what I can tell that's the gist of emf2, though, he goes into a little more detail with tdcs, ect, ct and seafood. Also he doesn't mention HIIT, which I think he should..

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on January 24, 2013
at 01:42 PM

many called BS on me.......today I am showing you my hand.

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 24, 2013
at 07:17 PM

Can you elaborate at all Dr. Kruse? It's funny you commented on this because I was thinking about how lot's of people often criticize you so I went and listened to, and annotated, all of your appearances on various podcasts regarding CT, and it seemed very intelligent, and the controlled studies I've read back what you have said. That being said, I'm sorry but I'm not sure what you are getting at... I should reduce the dirty electricity in my home maybe? I don't fully understand... what's your take on neurofeedback/CES then?

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 24, 2013
at 08:44 PM

So wouldn't earthing mats do just that? I'm pretty sure from what I've listened to from Clint Ober is that your attaching yourself to Earth's seemingly infinite flow of electrons/electrical charges, and there's research to show it has affects on blood viscosity and pressure, circulation, stroke volume, etc. let alone it's affects on inflammation and sleep improvement and more. I've been thinking about buying a universal earthing mat and using it for 30-40mins a day and starting to sleep in complete darkness to see if that improves anything.

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(15515)

on January 24, 2013
at 09:35 AM

It is hard to say because I am not a specialist, but I would

  1. not do Primal, but a very very strict version of Paleo (no dairy, no nightshades).

  2. I would read more about Terry Wahls.

  3. I would consider Chinese herbal medicine for supplements.

  4. Possibly try some suggestions from Jack Kruze.

I don't really know, but I would look into many different things to find what works for you.

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 24, 2013
at 07:55 PM

thanks for your input as well

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on January 24, 2013
at 08:00 PM

No ice cream for you :) Or any processed foods. You should only have WHOLE foods.

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 24, 2013
at 07:55 PM

I was in fact thinking about eliminating dairy/nightshades; I've noticed recently that when I ate this organic grass-fed non homogenized (but not raw) i felt fine; but the the past couple days when I took a few scoops of icecream, or the day after ate my moms yogurt, I had a migraine and also had terrible digestive issues.

443d09cb00d7c8ba7c28fdfe7bed3f5e

on January 24, 2013
at 08:47 PM

haha i know... I typically only eat meat (ruminant animals - beef/lamb, almost no chicken/turkey due to n6) and veggies, typically broccoli and spinach, along with plenty of sweet potatoes; I was just toying around with carb back-loading and at the end of my "back-load" had some trader joe's ice cream and within an hour I felt off. I think I'm basically going to cut out all dairy besides the butter/heavy whipping cream I consume, because that doesn't seem to have an effect right now (although I've never cut it out, so idk)... maybe has something to do with lower amounts of casein?

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