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Is the average vegan healthier than the average SAD-er?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 02, 2013 at 5:59 PM

By average SAD-er, I don't mean someone eating McDonalds everyday and drinking soda, I mean someone eating oatmeal and OJ for breakfast and maybe turkey sandwich on wholegrain bread with low fat cheese/margarine for lunch(in other words, considers his diet to be relatively healthy).

How would a diet like that stack up against someone who eats only fruits, veggies, wholegrains, nuts, seeds and soy?

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on May 03, 2013
at 08:51 AM

So, it sounds like the consensus is that the vegan will be healthier, but over many years will be prone to developing nagging micronutrient nutrient deficiency diseases, no matter how well they balance their macros and seek out nutritious foods.

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on May 03, 2013
at 02:27 AM

I find Miracle Whip inexcusable, but they keep eating it...

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on May 03, 2013
at 02:23 AM

Which is my point below Roth...I don't have any history on old vegans, but my old healthy SAD meat and margarine-eating parents are doing OK.

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on May 03, 2013
at 02:14 AM

And at 87, they're doing something right. That's pretty cool that they live on a farm.

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on May 02, 2013
at 11:56 PM

You make it seem like vegans get malnutrition from a lack of animal products overnight. They don't. It takes years.

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at 11:55 PM

Ever looked at the ingredients on some SAD low-fat turkey slices or whole grain bread? You'd be hard pressed to find the turkey in the turkey slices. Whole grain bread is made with SAD-approved ingredients like soybean oil. Unless you're buying artisan bread (which SAD people don't) you're bound to get bread with ADDED gluten, on top of the gluten that's already naturally in the bread. Low-fat cheese is obviously pasteurized and comes from lame cows, in addition to sometimes containing mold inhibitors and added sugar. Eating margarine is inexcusable. The vegan's diet is still cleaner.

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Au contraire. The OP is not talking Big Gulp SAD. Comparatively this SAD diet is far preferable to meatless malnutrition.

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Bingo .

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3327924660b1e2f8f8fc4ca27fedf2b2

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on May 02, 2013
at 06:19 PM

Yes, but not because they're vegans. They're healthier because they remove all the shitty food that SAD people eat, not because they removed animal products.

Veganism is the one of the most restrictive diet on the planet and when you restrict crappy food, your health will improve.

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(2919)

on May 02, 2013
at 11:56 PM

You make it seem like vegans get malnutrition from a lack of animal products overnight. They don't. It takes years.

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(10611)

on May 03, 2013
at 02:23 AM

Which is my point below Roth...I don't have any history on old vegans, but my old healthy SAD meat and margarine-eating parents are doing OK.

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on May 02, 2013
at 06:20 PM

Bingo .

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(10611)

on May 02, 2013
at 09:29 PM

Au contraire. The OP is not talking Big Gulp SAD. Comparatively this SAD diet is far preferable to meatless malnutrition.

Medium avatar

(10611)

on May 03, 2013
at 02:27 AM

I find Miracle Whip inexcusable, but they keep eating it...

72cf727474b8bf815fdc505e58cadfea

on May 03, 2013
at 08:51 AM

So, it sounds like the consensus is that the vegan will be healthier, but over many years will be prone to developing nagging micronutrient nutrient deficiency diseases, no matter how well they balance their macros and seek out nutritious foods.

3327924660b1e2f8f8fc4ca27fedf2b2

(2919)

on May 02, 2013
at 11:55 PM

Ever looked at the ingredients on some SAD low-fat turkey slices or whole grain bread? You'd be hard pressed to find the turkey in the turkey slices. Whole grain bread is made with SAD-approved ingredients like soybean oil. Unless you're buying artisan bread (which SAD people don't) you're bound to get bread with ADDED gluten, on top of the gluten that's already naturally in the bread. Low-fat cheese is obviously pasteurized and comes from lame cows, in addition to sometimes containing mold inhibitors and added sugar. Eating margarine is inexcusable. The vegan's diet is still cleaner.

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on May 02, 2013
at 09:26 PM

That sounds like my parent's daily diet. They're healthy in their late 80's. They don't overeat and they're still actively traveling, farming, and gardening. The big question is whether a meat-free, malnourished, feeble vegan could stand up to this kind of life as well as they do at age 87. Their diet is not optimal by any means, but the life they live on SAD is more optimal than living in a rest home.

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on May 03, 2013
at 02:14 AM

And at 87, they're doing something right. That's pretty cool that they live on a farm.

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