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How long to benefit from getting Vit. D higher?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created January 02, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Mine's 30.5 and I feel like crap. For years/decades, I've tried soooo many things and not much makes a difference.

Every time I read about some vitamin or way of eating, I think I've found the holy grail and I'm gonna get out from under this chronic pain and unrelenting lethargy.

My cholesterol ratios are great, O 6/3 ratio is 4.1, and and I'm retired in a wonderful, low-stress environment.

Others like HS CRP, RT3 are higher than I certainly would like, so I've got a ways to go, but can I get some relief from increased D?

I hoping that getting my D up will do at least part of the trick.

Your experiences?

5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

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on January 03, 2012
at 03:43 PM

Just something to be aware of. Usually when I see those 50k IU numbers, it's Vitamin D2, not D3. D2 is supposed to be substantially less bioavailable than D3. So if you take 50k of D3, it might/might not cause problems.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on January 03, 2012
at 03:30 PM

@Martin~ My husband listens to me a lot now and tells me he wishes he had listened to me more earlier on in our marriage...!

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on January 03, 2012
at 03:28 PM

@daz~ No, I didn't test then--yes, it would have been interesting to know!

782cd63ad3b881a1f195e8520e2808be

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on January 03, 2012
at 12:57 PM

Good to know that my twice-weekly avocados are just plain yummy. I'm going to retest D in two months to see what all this work has done.

782cd63ad3b881a1f195e8520e2808be

(45)

on January 03, 2012
at 12:54 PM

Wow. I'm going to try upping doses today. I sometimes take 12k, but the higher dosages are encouraging. I'm also taking K2, so some research may be in order.

782cd63ad3b881a1f195e8520e2808be

(45)

on January 03, 2012
at 12:50 PM

Zinc is covered, but the oysters are a great idea! I take 300 mg a night - and just got a big dose from some chocolate the wife pulled out of the hidden stash. Yum. She has also mentioned EFT. Maybe I should start listening to her more often.

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on January 03, 2012
at 03:00 AM

hi Dragonfly, when you were supping with 4,000 IU (& not feeling the benefit/effect compared with 8,000), did you find out what your serum level was? it would be interesting to know how low it dropped.

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on January 02, 2012
at 07:49 PM

I have MS, am a 2x cancer survivor, and have a congenital autoimmune/genetic disorder called hyper-IgE syndrome (mild), where my body produces too much of some immune globulins, and either doesn't produce or produces too little of others. We live in a world that encourages "quick fixes", so it's hard to be patient -- but I try to remember that most "failures" in every area of life happen because someone quit right before they were about to have a breakthrough and find success -- so I try to hang in there just a little longer.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on January 02, 2012
at 07:43 PM

Also, you may need Zinc if you don't eat oysters, etc... And if the pain doesn't budge, try EFT (www.eftuniverse.com) Diet can help most things, but sometimes there is an underlying issue on the emotional level that needs addressing.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on January 02, 2012
at 07:40 PM

I take about 300 mg and get a bit more from chocolate. Trial & error to find out what works for me...

782cd63ad3b881a1f195e8520e2808be

(45)

on January 02, 2012
at 05:55 PM

Very interesting. Only two months to go for me! :-) I do mag citrate every night as my 2x yearly hair tissue analysis has shown me to be low for years. Serum levels for mag are not reliable and I'm glad I have a tissue one to look at. How much do you take - to tolerance?

782cd63ad3b881a1f195e8520e2808be

(45)

on January 02, 2012
at 05:51 PM

I guess I have to be patient. How come some folks take a pill and all of a sudden - they're cured! I NEVER had that even close. I'm adding borage oil for my peripheral Neuroapathy, etc., and feel like I've had an auto-immune issue for decades. What do you have, Firestorm? I'm thinking of upping my 10,000 IU daily D. I want it now.

782cd63ad3b881a1f195e8520e2808be

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on January 02, 2012
at 05:47 PM

I've been Weston Price for 8 years, Paleo for a month. I used to believe that foods could do it for me, but after decades of sporatic vit/min usage(and ALWAYS custom-prescribed by testing), I am going downhill. So, time to throw the kitchen sink at it, with TONS of testing and research, of course. Also, no dairy, nightshade, eggs, snacking, wheat, and corn. Grass-fed pastured meats, organic vegs(half I grow myself), great spring water, cod liver oil, etc., what the hell is left?!

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on January 02, 2012
at 02:50 PM

There are SO much vitamins, minerals, chemicals that can help you out. The key is to avoid anti-nutrients by following a great paleo diet. Experiment with different foods and carb levels rather than with vitamins.

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Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on January 02, 2012
at 03:04 PM

It took me about 3 months.

I started supplementing 12,000 IUs in Nov 2009 and by Jan had noticed that my SAD symptoms and my chronic eczema were gone.

I dropped down to 8,000 IUs (maintenance for me) and another 3 months and my asthma symptoms were gone.

I need to keep my level highish (just above 80 ng/ml) to keep my asthma at bay. Found this out when I dropped my supplementation down to 4,000 IUs after moving to Santa Fe, NM. Despite the increased sun exposure & decreased latitude, my darker, older (48 yr old) skin didn't produce enough.

Back up to 8,000 IUs and I feel great!

Make sure to supplement Magnesium (citrate, malate or glycinate) and get enough K & A from your diet.

782cd63ad3b881a1f195e8520e2808be

(45)

on January 02, 2012
at 05:55 PM

Very interesting. Only two months to go for me! :-) I do mag citrate every night as my 2x yearly hair tissue analysis has shown me to be low for years. Serum levels for mag are not reliable and I'm glad I have a tissue one to look at. How much do you take - to tolerance?

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on January 03, 2012
at 03:30 PM

@Martin~ My husband listens to me a lot now and tells me he wishes he had listened to me more earlier on in our marriage...!

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on January 02, 2012
at 07:40 PM

I take about 300 mg and get a bit more from chocolate. Trial & error to find out what works for me...

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on January 02, 2012
at 07:43 PM

Also, you may need Zinc if you don't eat oysters, etc... And if the pain doesn't budge, try EFT (www.eftuniverse.com) Diet can help most things, but sometimes there is an underlying issue on the emotional level that needs addressing.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on January 03, 2012
at 03:00 AM

hi Dragonfly, when you were supping with 4,000 IU (& not feeling the benefit/effect compared with 8,000), did you find out what your serum level was? it would be interesting to know how low it dropped.

782cd63ad3b881a1f195e8520e2808be

(45)

on January 03, 2012
at 12:50 PM

Zinc is covered, but the oysters are a great idea! I take 300 mg a night - and just got a big dose from some chocolate the wife pulled out of the hidden stash. Yum. She has also mentioned EFT. Maybe I should start listening to her more often.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on January 03, 2012
at 03:28 PM

@daz~ No, I didn't test then--yes, it would have been interesting to know!

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Ca1150430b1904659742ce2cad621c7d

(12540)

on January 02, 2012
at 03:18 PM

I had significant improvement with increased Vitamin D levels. Right now, I'm supplementing at 16,000 IU a day -- we've got influenza going through the office, and I find that if I supplement sufficiently with D3, it skips my house -- so I bumped my to 2x my usual winter maintenance dose.

It took about 6 months before I had noticeable improvement from D3 supplementation, so hang in there -- eventually, it does help with things like chronic pain and it made a big difference for me in managing my MS and congenital autoimmune issues.

Ca1150430b1904659742ce2cad621c7d

(12540)

on January 02, 2012
at 07:49 PM

I have MS, am a 2x cancer survivor, and have a congenital autoimmune/genetic disorder called hyper-IgE syndrome (mild), where my body produces too much of some immune globulins, and either doesn't produce or produces too little of others. We live in a world that encourages "quick fixes", so it's hard to be patient -- but I try to remember that most "failures" in every area of life happen because someone quit right before they were about to have a breakthrough and find success -- so I try to hang in there just a little longer.

782cd63ad3b881a1f195e8520e2808be

(45)

on January 02, 2012
at 05:51 PM

I guess I have to be patient. How come some folks take a pill and all of a sudden - they're cured! I NEVER had that even close. I'm adding borage oil for my peripheral Neuroapathy, etc., and feel like I've had an auto-immune issue for decades. What do you have, Firestorm? I'm thinking of upping my 10,000 IU daily D. I want it now.

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E286e6ba6ef6c4c4a31a749e59aa57e1

on January 02, 2012
at 10:38 PM

You may be able to lower your effective dosage of vitamin D by taking it with a high fat food Ive noticed an increase in my 25 hydroxy levels vs. last winter simply from ingestion with an Avocado every day (same 5,000iu) vs an empty stomach last year.

Here is research to support:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22190928

782cd63ad3b881a1f195e8520e2808be

(45)

on January 03, 2012
at 12:57 PM

Good to know that my twice-weekly avocados are just plain yummy. I'm going to retest D in two months to see what all this work has done.

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on January 02, 2012
at 11:43 PM

Dr's prescribe up to 50,000IU/DAY. Perfectly healthy and safe.

Some Dr's prescribe up to 100,000IU/every 4 days for muscle fatigue and sometimes more.

All backed by clinical research results.

5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

(8280)

on January 03, 2012
at 03:43 PM

Just something to be aware of. Usually when I see those 50k IU numbers, it's Vitamin D2, not D3. D2 is supposed to be substantially less bioavailable than D3. So if you take 50k of D3, it might/might not cause problems.

782cd63ad3b881a1f195e8520e2808be

(45)

on January 03, 2012
at 12:54 PM

Wow. I'm going to try upping doses today. I sometimes take 12k, but the higher dosages are encouraging. I'm also taking K2, so some research may be in order.

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