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candida overgrowth questions

Commented on December 07, 2014
Created March 29, 2013 at 4:05 AM

i browsed the site about this but didn't find what i was looking for.

here's some history: i've had ulcerative colitis for almost 7 years. in february 2013, i had a terrible case of c diff. i was on vancomycin for two weeks and that cleared it out great. my UC symptoms are mild (bathroom 2-4x per day, soft stools, cramping with bowel movements). i've been taking lots of probiotics since my c diff diagnosis and have continued them to repopulate my gut. seems to be working well. i am taking lactobacillus GG, acidophilus, prescript assist, and saccharomyces boullardi. i rotate between all four as well as eat fermented yogurt daily.

i just saw a naturopath a few days ago to see if he could help me with my UC. anyway, he told me to take two antifungals called oregano oil and candibactin (3 capsules of both daily). candibactin has berberine. he said these are natural antibiotics and would clean me out- kill the good and bad bacteria at once so my gut would start over.

i am terrified about taking them since i have been taking so many probiotics and have just finished my vancomycin last month. i know antibiotics can cause c diff to grow again. is that the same with natural antibiotics, too? i'd like to avoid c diff overgrowth since it made me bleed profusely and go to the bathroom 25x a day.

are there any anti fungals that are more gentle on my gut? i'd hate to send myself into a terrible flare with these supplements. any information or experience with these is totally welcome and appreciated.

i've been reading about garlic and coconut oil as antifungals. i usually eat sauteed garlic every day but not raw- same with coconut oil (i saute my meats/veggies in it).

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on December 07, 2014
at 10:54 AM

Joanna_4, I have a lot of food sensitivities, and using the newer blood markers I supposedly have some kind of IBD (not diagnosed as Crohns or UC yet).   But I have none of the horrible symptoms.  And wow I feel for you if you had to go 25x a day.  Just a few thoughts:

1) I got rid of the worst of my symptoms by going on an incredibly anti inflammatory diet.  I found coconut milk in particular was extremely well tolerated.  I avoid grains, dairy (except for pure ghee), potatoes, soy, and generally I stay low carb but have a very high vegetable diet (as well as lots of fats and moderate protein).

2) Have you tried a food elimination diet and once you strip things down to just basics do you see any improvement?

3) If you are up to seeing an osteopath remotely, I can give you the name of one in Colorado who is incredible.  He does a lot of work with food sensitivities and he has some unusual tests that diagnosed my potatoe and soy issues when normal Igx testing did not.  I am in California, so that tells you a lot about how good this guy is that I would use him instead of my local options.

4) You should invest in a Japanese style bidet.   They are incredible, and with your symptoms they are mandatory.

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on April 02, 2013
at 11:28 PM

You're probably right Paul, everyone has different microbial populations.

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on April 02, 2013
at 11:26 PM

A lot of bacteria and fungi can ferment indigestible fiber. Cooked carrots are more digestible for humans but are also more digestible to bacteria. Raw carrot is antimicrobial and therefore a pretty safe form of fiber. Thanks again for the Fiber Menace recommendation Joanna, that's how I stumbled upon the carrot info. It's been helping with my constipation when all other forms of fiber just make things worse for me. I wouldn't worry about it killing probiotic bacteria too much because if it does then those strains of bacteria wouldn't be very hardy anyway. With UC your results may vary though.

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on April 01, 2013
at 01:16 AM

Keep us posted on how it goes, joanna. Best of luck to you!

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on March 31, 2013
at 06:50 AM

I disagree with NooMahk, I do better on a no-sugar SCD. I guess it depends on who you are.

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on March 31, 2013
at 06:44 AM

8?!?!?! So what are you gonna do about it? Sounds really bad :O

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on March 31, 2013
at 12:52 AM

VB, okay. good to know. the garlic seems strong enough for me- already very bloated and gassy since starting it yesterday. noomoahk, i do eat cooked carrots. what benefits do raw carrots have?

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on March 31, 2013
at 12:51 AM

yeah, in a perfect world, i'd be able to do more fecal transplants and be okay. i did 8 FTs last year but got so much worse. i am very hesistant to try again. i'm pretty sure my intestinal problem is what it's always been- ulcerative colitis.

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on March 31, 2013
at 12:49 AM

thanks, liam. i started eating a few cloves of raw garlic since i read your post. my gut is pretty bloated to be honest but i'm guessing this is normal? i haven't had raw garlic in a long time. the fruit thing will be very hard for me. i have fruit every day (always bananas). i've been doing no starches/grains for a while (almost 9 months).

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on March 29, 2013
at 07:30 PM

She recommended a supplement called Garlinase fresh. While I agree that the majority of Homeopathic remedies are BS, this actually worked for me. It all depends on the individual I suppose. In retrospect, if I knew then what I know now, I probably wouldn't have gone to a homeopath to begin with :-)

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on March 29, 2013
at 07:07 AM

You could try raw carrot too.

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on March 29, 2013
at 06:45 AM

What garlic supplement did you take? Aged?

33266cca338ab54cee9a2aa160f5bdb6

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on March 29, 2013
at 06:43 AM

I would completely disagree with this. I did a no sugar, vlc diet for 1 year and if anything my overgrowth worsened. I now eat abundant fruit and honey and things have gotten much better. I think avoiding fiber and pufa(and maybe starch) is a better means to starve gut bacteria. Candida can live on ketones and fiber just fine.

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on March 29, 2013
at 06:09 AM

Avoiding sugary foods helps to fight candida. But homeopathic medicine is pure quackery. Garlic can also help The best route to go is to find what is causing your overgrowth and treat that not simply avoid sugar because is not a plausible means to maintain for the rest of your life.

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on March 29, 2013
at 05:11 AM

I took both Candibactin AR and BR. They wrecked havoc in my system. I DO NOT RECOMMEND TAKING THEM. They will not cause C. diff, but they messed more things than just my stomach. Go with garlic and coconut oil. It is safer.

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on March 29, 2013
at 04:46 AM

Hey there, I visited a homeopath some time ago about allergy problems I was having and she mentioned me having issues with candida overgrowth. What she told me was that instead of taking this, that or the other to get rid of the yeast, I should simply dodge sugar in all forms as sugar feeds the yeast and to take a garlic supplement or, if you feel like having some solitude, eat some raw garlic. This worked for me big time. Hope this helps.

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on March 29, 2013
at 06:45 AM

What garlic supplement did you take? Aged?

135e21209a0034559f9d2372cceeac67

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on March 29, 2013
at 07:30 PM

She recommended a supplement called Garlinase fresh. While I agree that the majority of Homeopathic remedies are BS, this actually worked for me. It all depends on the individual I suppose. In retrospect, if I knew then what I know now, I probably wouldn't have gone to a homeopath to begin with :-)

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on March 29, 2013
at 06:43 AM

I would completely disagree with this. I did a no sugar, vlc diet for 1 year and if anything my overgrowth worsened. I now eat abundant fruit and honey and things have gotten much better. I think avoiding fiber and pufa(and maybe starch) is a better means to starve gut bacteria. Candida can live on ketones and fiber just fine.

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on March 31, 2013
at 12:49 AM

thanks, liam. i started eating a few cloves of raw garlic since i read your post. my gut is pretty bloated to be honest but i'm guessing this is normal? i haven't had raw garlic in a long time. the fruit thing will be very hard for me. i have fruit every day (always bananas). i've been doing no starches/grains for a while (almost 9 months).

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on March 31, 2013
at 06:50 AM

I disagree with NooMahk, I do better on a no-sugar SCD. I guess it depends on who you are.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on March 29, 2013
at 06:09 AM

Avoiding sugary foods helps to fight candida. But homeopathic medicine is pure quackery. Garlic can also help The best route to go is to find what is causing your overgrowth and treat that not simply avoid sugar because is not a plausible means to maintain for the rest of your life.

135e21209a0034559f9d2372cceeac67

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on April 01, 2013
at 01:16 AM

Keep us posted on how it goes, joanna. Best of luck to you!

33266cca338ab54cee9a2aa160f5bdb6

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on April 02, 2013
at 11:28 PM

You're probably right Paul, everyone has different microbial populations.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on March 29, 2013
at 06:17 AM

That is most certainly a reasonable concern. I don't think anyone can help you at that point lol. A fecal transplant sound reasonable for the C. Diff. and the yeast should get better over time on its own, unless there is also a SIBO problem, which may indicate some sort of other intestinal problem.

Just my thoughts. Not a doctor.

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on March 31, 2013
at 06:44 AM

8?!?!?! So what are you gonna do about it? Sounds really bad :O

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on March 31, 2013
at 12:51 AM

yeah, in a perfect world, i'd be able to do more fecal transplants and be okay. i did 8 FTs last year but got so much worse. i am very hesistant to try again. i'm pretty sure my intestinal problem is what it's always been- ulcerative colitis.

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