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Green beans and ham: Paleo or not?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 17, 2011 at 6:49 PM

I read Dr. Cordain's Paleo book first and he says no green beans because they're a legume. Dr. Cordain also says no ham because it's a salt food, therefore too acidic. Then I read Rob Wolf's Paleo book and he has separate recipes for green beans and ham. Thoughts? I read one Paleohack post where someone said ham might be OK for rare/occasional eating. I can believe that.
BTW, I have Chronic Fatigue Immune Dysfunction Syndrome and this Paleo diet is HELPING me! Yeah!

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on July 16, 2013
at 07:26 PM

Want to add: as a Celiac, I have to be VERY careful as most hams out there contain GLUTEN. We have a local place that smokes and cures without any gluten. I highly recommend Frick's if you can get it in your area. And yes, it'll still be full of salt :)

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on October 26, 2011
at 03:24 PM

I agree - that was BRILLIANT and creative thinking Stabby!

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on October 19, 2011
at 07:23 AM

My question is : could they be causing constipation? I ate a lot of green beans this summer (it was really easy for me) and was constipated. I even tried removing the eggs.

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on October 18, 2011
at 07:44 PM

Brilliant Stabby.

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on October 18, 2011
at 05:52 PM

The seeds are the actual legumes. You could remove them but it would be labor-intensive. And since the majority of each "bean" is actually "pod" I personally wouldn't bother unless you wish to eat a few pounds a day.

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on October 18, 2011
at 12:59 AM

I want to upvote over and over.

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on October 17, 2011
at 07:31 PM

I hope you can feel this, Stabby - I'm upvoting your comment as hard as I can.

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on October 17, 2011
at 07:05 PM

yeah Stabby! :)

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on October 17, 2011
at 06:59 PM

I do not like them with roast lamb, I do not like them with a yam, I do not like green beans and ham, I do not like them, Cordain-I-Am.

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on October 17, 2011
at 06:59 PM

Green beans are considered a "safe" legume, so they're fine. And even the theory that legumes are too high in bad stuff is starting to be questioned by folks like KGH, assuming they're prepared correctly.

As far as ham goes, I guess if it's cured then it might be too salty, but the same goes for bacon, and that's widely accepted in the community. IMO, ham is fine. Now, reconstituted ham that you find as pre-packaged cold-cuts, that's not good.

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on October 19, 2011
at 07:23 AM

My question is : could they be causing constipation? I ate a lot of green beans this summer (it was really easy for me) and was constipated. I even tried removing the eggs.

67871ef2326f29da48f1522827fc0f80

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on July 16, 2013
at 07:26 PM

Want to add: as a Celiac, I have to be VERY careful as most hams out there contain GLUTEN. We have a local place that smokes and cures without any gluten. I highly recommend Frick's if you can get it in your area. And yes, it'll still be full of salt :)

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on October 17, 2011
at 08:12 PM

The bean part of green beans is so small that it doesn't really matter, it's mostly vegetable.

I never worry about salt, so ham is fine too. As long as you're eating a low carb diet and your kidneys are working right, you'll purge extra salt without an issue.

Think more about the spirit of the diet rather than strict rules.

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on October 17, 2011
at 07:32 PM

In the summer time my Okinawan grandmother would always prepare for us kids ham and string beans, I think I've mentioned this in another question somewhere. I loved it. I had green beans today w/ a beef filet and potatoes, it's one of the few greens I do like though I don't eat them often. These days I don't eat much pork I think a handful of times this year. Makes me depending on what it is feel sluggish. I don't think that one particular meal out of a good diet is going to kill you I could be wrong though. These will be things to explore in about 20-30 years. And you certainly could be eating much much worse things.

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on July 16, 2013
at 07:29 PM

I've been enjoying green beans from our garden this summer after avoiding them the past 2 years. This is a real test for me! (as it must be for every individual)

So far, after 3 days of a serving each day, not only am I not having any bowel problem, it has eased some constipation. I was really worried but I'm doing grand eating carrots, summer squash and green beans (in addition to my normal leafy greens and salad greens) lately.

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on October 19, 2011
at 02:01 AM

The green beans are a legume, but they have fewer antinutrients (Paleos don't eat nontraditionally prepared legumes/legumes at all because of the antinutrients) that we can eat them without problems. They can even be eaten raw, unlike kidney beans: http://www.foodreference.com/html/artredkidneybeanpoisoning.html

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on October 17, 2011
at 07:50 PM

Are the pod-parts of green beans legumes or just the seeds? The seeds would be easy to remove (and often are mostly missing in string beans).

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on October 18, 2011
at 05:52 PM

The seeds are the actual legumes. You could remove them but it would be labor-intensive. And since the majority of each "bean" is actually "pod" I personally wouldn't bother unless you wish to eat a few pounds a day.

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on October 17, 2011
at 07:16 PM

I'm neutral on green beans I guess. As for ham, I would worry about the sugar used in the curing/flavoring process more than the salt.

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