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Reversing Hairloss, is it too late?

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Created August 11, 2010 at 6:16 PM

So I believe that Paleo helps prevent hairloss, but it doesn't seem to be reversing the loss that's already happened .

I've gone from steady recession to stable... My current solution is shaved head, which luckily my head us shaped well for...

It wouldn't hurt my feelings to regrow my hair tho..

I'm strict paleo, 100% gluten free, super low O6, grassfed beef, wild fish,variety of veggies very limited fruit,plenty of great sat fats. No processed foods, no veg oils(except coconut)

Any ideas or interesting reads?

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on April 15, 2012
at 10:38 AM

Reason why you can't find research on racial differences in balding is that most research designed to identify racial differences have been killed by the PC-police...

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on April 15, 2012
at 12:15 AM

Okay, genes are different than races. Me thinks you don't understand genetics perhaps...

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on October 10, 2011
at 04:29 AM

I love Danny but to call him paleo is off. He calls himself a peatatarian. I digg it.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on December 31, 2010
at 10:46 PM

go less for computer, more for real world. try to look for your deeper dreams.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on December 31, 2010
at 10:43 PM

hej ican say first thing good that you care .maybe its too late. Naturally i know. hairlloss get away with a mainly basic diet. That mean lots lots of vegetables and less meat. I also heard on flirting is good for hair. and not force ureself to training. be more careful with ureselfe. some people with hairloss have also bad breath headache migrane or overtrained. nettlerootwater, try relaxing exercise. comfrey water, chamile water. eat nettles. dont stress ure self. take your self time. maybe start explore your body. look at people animals who have hair.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

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on September 05, 2010
at 02:15 PM

Its just the kind of posts id expect from Matt Stone. Thank you. also , in the future, reply in comments, not as a new answer.

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on August 26, 2010
at 11:54 AM

you should mention you are "selling" the ebook, for $30. This isnt a marketing site. Its for Free Advice. links to your posts and people finding it on their own and deciding is fine. direct links to your own stuff is kinda cheesy.

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on August 17, 2010
at 04:50 PM

I do crossfit football type of workout four days a week and my diet is low carb paleo with as little processed food as possible. Grass fed meats and little starch and rarely fruit.

E0965e067b72ea7a45d6fad6f164e132

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on August 17, 2010
at 04:47 PM

I do take kelp.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on August 15, 2010
at 12:35 AM

Where did you read about the iodine? I have noticed my beard is alot thicker now, as is my leg and chest hair. Just wish I could have my head hair back...

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on August 14, 2010
at 02:52 PM

Matt stone is still a douche

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on August 14, 2010
at 11:10 AM

@SRlaserguy Nice to know it's working for you :) Do you take any iodine or any other supplement? According to what i've read, lack of iodine can cause thinning of the hair and i notice that my hair is not constant in terms of thickness. Gonna up my iodine intake and see how it goes from there.

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on August 13, 2010
at 10:03 PM

SRlaserguy, UR SO HAWWT!! Awesome advice :) -G

48f9bb680fbc1bc1bd0d9cb09ee10273

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on August 12, 2010
at 07:17 PM

No such thing as too much natural testosterone:). Rather too much conversion via aromatase to di-hydro testosterone (DHT). And my 8 yr old daughter just told me my bald spot is getting bigger :/

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on August 12, 2010
at 02:42 AM

Scott, LMAO! Talk about optimism!

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on August 12, 2010
at 12:41 AM

I'm 31 so this is great news

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on August 12, 2010
at 12:40 AM

Grats, describe your diet/exercise/etc, please.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on August 12, 2010
at 12:40 AM

No not saying they don't, just never seen it

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

(4359)

on August 11, 2010
at 11:49 PM

If you aim to prove HGs did not bald, a fairly commonplace phenomeneon among modern humans, I think the burden is on you.

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(4359)

on August 11, 2010
at 11:47 PM

If you aim to prove that HG didn't bald, I would say the burden of proof is on you.

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on August 11, 2010
at 08:46 PM

Hey, it increases the surface area of my "solar panel" for Vit. D generation!

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on August 11, 2010
at 08:23 PM

You can look through the Anthrophoto image gallery that was posted in the "What should a healthy human look like" thread: http://www.anthrophoto.com/cgi-bin/ImageFolio31//imageFolio.cgi?direct=Humans Some of these photos are of real non-neolethal HGs, some not. Check out the home page for their comments on the sources of the photography.

F910318b9aa27b91bcf7881f39b9eabe

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on August 11, 2010
at 08:11 PM

I definitely noticed a big difference after going paleo 2 months ago! OK, my hair has not grown back but the few that i still have are much thicker and don't fall off that easy. That alone is a big win for me...

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on August 11, 2010
at 07:52 PM

Link balding HG that aren't eating anything neolethal?

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62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

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on August 12, 2010
at 02:54 AM

Hm, Scott's comment got me to thinking now.. They say vit D synthesis weakens as you age. Maybe balding was selected for partly because it improved vit D production in older people who might need more of it? Of course, that can't be a full explanation because it doesn't explain why women have less hair loss unless women have less need for D or are able to produce more of it. However, it got me to wondering if there was a difference in baldness tendencies between races. I didn't find any references to that, but I did find this one where it says different races tend to go bald in different patterns of hair loss: http://racehist.blogspot.com/2009/05/racialethnic-differences-in-male.html Who woulda thunk it! Or maybe if you have low D, then the body tends to precipitate hair loss? (wild conjecture there with zero evidence). Anyway, interesting to think about...
-Eva

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on April 15, 2012
at 10:38 AM

Reason why you can't find research on racial differences in balding is that most research designed to identify racial differences have been killed by the PC-police...

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E0965e067b72ea7a45d6fad6f164e132

on August 11, 2010
at 11:42 PM

Have been eating Paleo for about a year and my bald spot on the back of my head now as hair. Also, I am a low carb Paleo eater.

I am almost 50, so it seems not to be too late for me.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on August 12, 2010
at 12:41 AM

I'm 31 so this is great news

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on August 15, 2010
at 12:35 AM

Where did you read about the iodine? I have noticed my beard is alot thicker now, as is my leg and chest hair. Just wish I could have my head hair back...

E0965e067b72ea7a45d6fad6f164e132

(229)

on August 17, 2010
at 04:47 PM

I do take kelp.

E0965e067b72ea7a45d6fad6f164e132

(229)

on August 17, 2010
at 04:50 PM

I do crossfit football type of workout four days a week and my diet is low carb paleo with as little processed food as possible. Grass fed meats and little starch and rarely fruit.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on August 12, 2010
at 12:40 AM

Grats, describe your diet/exercise/etc, please.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on August 13, 2010
at 10:03 PM

SRlaserguy, UR SO HAWWT!! Awesome advice :) -G

F910318b9aa27b91bcf7881f39b9eabe

(1164)

on August 14, 2010
at 11:10 AM

@SRlaserguy Nice to know it's working for you :) Do you take any iodine or any other supplement? According to what i've read, lack of iodine can cause thinning of the hair and i notice that my hair is not constant in terms of thickness. Gonna up my iodine intake and see how it goes from there.

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on August 26, 2010
at 04:19 AM

I don't think it's too late either. Depending on how bad the damage is.

While I stopped my hair loss on a zero-carb diet, I transitioned to a more normal mixed diet with success as well.

Currently my diet is sporting about 20-30% fat, 10-15% prot, and 60-70% carb -- hair is doing great. If anyone is skeptical, befriend me on facebook and browse my photos.

I have a couple of posts on the issue:

www.dannyroddy.com

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

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on August 26, 2010
at 11:54 AM

you should mention you are "selling" the ebook, for $30. This isnt a marketing site. Its for Free Advice. links to your posts and people finding it on their own and deciding is fine. direct links to your own stuff is kinda cheesy.

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on August 14, 2010
at 09:13 AM

Here's a guy who reversed hair loss with a zero carb approach:

http://www.carnivorehealth.com/main/2010/6/20/the-healthy-hair-diet-how-avoiding-convention-can-help-save.html

He's working on an e-book on the topic. He ties hair loss to insulin resistance.

In the comments of a newer post, reader/blogger Matt Stone said he also had hair re-growth on a zero carb diet for a month: "I too had some hair regrowth on zero carb (even following it for just one month). But a few little scalp hairs was not worth the other torments I experienced - and I only seem to lose hair when my diet has junk in it (white sugar, white flour, vegetable oil)." source: http://www.carnivorehealth.com/main/2010/7/14/i-used-to-think-matt-stone-was-a-douche-i-was-wrong.html

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on August 14, 2010
at 02:52 PM

Matt stone is still a douche

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on August 12, 2010
at 02:37 AM

I am in a very different boat than you guys, being a woman, so different hormone games, but I do struggle with hair loss and am really concerned. The first time I noticed that I seem to loose more than normal was about 9mo ago, before I'd started any adventures with low-carb (which later became paleo). Nothing helped, and recently I noticed it getting worse... would that mean it's not diet problem? eating more or less well for about half a year should help, right?

Anyone has ideas about fighting that kind of hair loss? Should I supplement with a particular vitamin or micro-element? Or maybe it's hormone imbalance? In male case it's often too much testosterone, isn't it? Also genetics play huge role, as balding (or not) patterns run in families.

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(230)

on August 12, 2010
at 07:17 PM

No such thing as too much natural testosterone:). Rather too much conversion via aromatase to di-hydro testosterone (DHT). And my 8 yr old daughter just told me my bald spot is getting bigger :/

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on October 10, 2011
at 02:36 AM

www.dannyroddy.com

Not a personal problem for me yet (hopefully ever) but Danny seems like he's pretty up to snuff on this topic from a paleo point of view. He's good buds with Chris Kesser and I think it'd be worth a quick look see.

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on October 10, 2011
at 04:29 AM

I love Danny but to call him paleo is off. He calls himself a peatatarian. I digg it.

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3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

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on September 04, 2010
at 02:58 AM

Great response Stefani!

I'd 2nd Danny's experiences and his collection of solutions, Stephen-Aegis...!

He nails all the common and UNCOMMON reasons for unexpected, premature losses... I think evo/paleo eating, stress-free and exercise are all important naturally but often addressing key nutrional deficiencies and gaps fine-tunes the remainder. I've reviewed the book and HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT! It is actually the solution for more than hair loss (decrease estrogen dominance, improve testosterone, vitamin D, nutr'l deficiencies, leptin resistance -- these all improve coronary and silent inflammatory risks as well). It's not jsut hair.

If i were a vet and looking at human-animals, I can tell a lot from their coat, vigor and sheen of the hair... that something is up... Hormonal disturbances are one of the fundamental isolated causes and Danny reversed and improved hypothyroidism from the S.A.D. damages... It's an excellent read with sources from all of over the med literature and his experience. I learned A LOT :)

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on September 03, 2010
at 06:13 AM

I just did a bit of reading on the issue and it seems as though much of hair loss is attributed to hormonal imbalances. Under or overactive thyroids, and the 'reproductive' hormones estrogen and androgen, and specifically 'excess' testosterone, are mentioned in particular. Come to think of it, this might explain my own hair loss (female) as I have been dealing with lost menstruation for some time. Not sure how we would deal with this other than being as healthy as possible and maybe even visiting our doctors.

Some other hypothesized causes include poor bloodflow, and therefore poor nutrient delivery and poor 'waste' (not sure what this means) drainage from the scalp. Another cause is excessive sebum oil in the scalp, which clogs pores, and therefore prevents new hair from growing. Come to think of it, (I'm detecting a theme, here) this might effect my own hair loss as I have been experiencing excessive sebum build-up in other places on my body. Fortunately, I believe that this is caused by diet. I am currently eliminating dairy, which I believe is mitigating the sebum problem. It seems reasonable that food sensitivities are responsible for hair loss, too. Another way to mitigate excess sebum in the scalp is to make sure to scrub/clean it thoroughly. Plenty of Paleos tend to go light on the showering (myself included) which may just lead to a buildup of clogging material on the scalp. On the flip side, doctors also caution against excessive shampooing and hair-drying. Goodness.

Stress is cited as a cause. Which is probably due to its effects on hormone production.

As is smoking.

So far as nutrients go, some doctors believe low iron and low zinc may be linked to hair loss, and high levels of vitamin A and Selenium have been correlated with hair loss.

Similar to sebum overproduction, other skin conditions seem to effect hair loss. These include Eczema, dermatitis, and psoriasis.

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on August 11, 2010
at 07:17 PM

Same boat too, on hair and diet. check out the "inhumanexperiment" blog. The author seems to be of the paleo persuasion and has conducted many experiments on himself to regrow his own hair. I don't think he's come up with anything too successful.

By the way, my experience might be different than yours -- I don't think paleo has stemmed to tide of my hairloss. I also eat very low omega 6, have adequate omega 3, solid intake of fat soluble vitamins, low fructose, etc... But, I think I'm still losing hair. Also, I've seen pictures of balding hunter-gatherers among various tribal peoples...

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on August 11, 2010
at 07:52 PM

Link balding HG that aren't eating anything neolethal?

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on August 12, 2010
at 12:40 AM

No not saying they don't, just never seen it

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on August 11, 2010
at 11:47 PM

If you aim to prove that HG didn't bald, I would say the burden of proof is on you.

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

(4359)

on August 11, 2010
at 11:49 PM

If you aim to prove HGs did not bald, a fairly commonplace phenomeneon among modern humans, I think the burden is on you.

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(9647)

on August 11, 2010
at 08:23 PM

You can look through the Anthrophoto image gallery that was posted in the "What should a healthy human look like" thread: http://www.anthrophoto.com/cgi-bin/ImageFolio31//imageFolio.cgi?direct=Humans Some of these photos are of real non-neolethal HGs, some not. Check out the home page for their comments on the sources of the photography.

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on August 11, 2010
at 06:25 PM

I'm in the same boat as you. I don't think is possible. The hair follicles are dead and they are not coming back.

Bald is the new faux-hawk ;)

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on May 27, 2013
at 08:09 PM

I don't know much about baldness but I would think that eating paleo and eating optimally for your health will greatly benefit a lot of aspects of your lifestyle, health, and life. I don't know about genetic pattern baldness, though.

I think you have hope for regrowing your hair! Your diet seems very optimal.

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on May 27, 2013
at 05:01 PM

You can grow additional hair on your body as an adaptation to cold. That I noticed from taking ice baths. Or it might be a testosterone thing. So, my hypothesis is that you can possibly grow some hair from exposing your head to cold. Or it doesn't work that way, ha-ha. In any case, increased blood flow does not hurt.

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on May 27, 2013
at 01:36 PM

The most common way of attacking a hair loss problem usually involves the use of a certain commercial product. It usually entails that of a certain cream, pill, or solution that's applied to your scalp. A few get good results from the use of them, while others experience little or no results. Women often lose their hair due to hormonal imbalances, infections of the scalp, and various other things beyond their control. While they never really go completely bald, they will have to deal with general thinning of the hair over the scalp. For hair loss and related problems you can consult Dr. Cole’s for hair clinic.

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on April 14, 2012
at 11:29 PM

I'm sorry, Being bald is NOT genetic. if it was there would still be NO bald asians or balding american Indian men. there are both. it comes down to diet and sex hormones, the responsible hormones for hair loss are estradiol and estrone, yes, I know those "protect" hair. well have a blood test done sometime, trust me if your bald or balding your estrogen levels are high. of course, the estrogens arn't the only problem, then your testosterone (which women have too) converts to DHT to try to supress the estrogen, DHT, will cause acne, facial hair, hairloss, and hisuitism. uhm, as for reversing the process, I only know that alot of exersize and eating only meats has helped me alot. I sometimes still eat fruit.... but I try not to eat very much. hope that helps.

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on April 15, 2012
at 12:15 AM

Okay, genes are different than races. Me thinks you don't understand genetics perhaps...

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on October 10, 2011
at 04:20 AM

Being bald is a DNA issue, that was discussed in the news last year, with the discovery that bald folks have everything needed to grow hair except for the fact a "switch" in their DNA is "off" which leads scientists to believe that all it'll take is to learn how to throw the "switch" back on to accomplish regrowth. Hopefully in time for all of us old hippies to grow it out one more time before we go out. Here's a link to a story about it; http://www.examiner.com/medical-practice-in-new-york/hair-loss-gene-discovered

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on September 05, 2010
at 02:28 AM

Oh yeah, Grace... I love you.

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on September 05, 2010
at 02:27 AM

Stephen, I didn't mean to offend you. I removed the link.

Danny

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on September 05, 2010
at 02:15 PM

Its just the kind of posts id expect from Matt Stone. Thank you. also , in the future, reply in comments, not as a new answer.

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