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Hack this persons review of the Paleo diet

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Created April 22, 2012 at 8:51 AM

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Paleo_Diet_Myth.aspx

8508fec4bae4a580d1e1b807058fee8e

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on April 22, 2012
at 05:03 PM

Yeah and chimps are eating the American Food Pyramid (now Plate) ??!! - how much of their diet is grains?

8508fec4bae4a580d1e1b807058fee8e

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on April 22, 2012
at 05:02 PM

ED is a sign of cardiovascular, hormonal and insulin problems ... I seriously doubt adding a bunch of grains is going to help! Excess body fat (especially) in the abdominal area is estrogenic - not good for men! Insulin resistance tends to cause elevated androgens like testosterone in women leading to greater acne, etc.

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on April 22, 2012
at 02:42 PM

Interesting that chimpanzees are mentioned. They do not eat grains or beans. Guess they are ahead of us in the good diet department, they eat meat, and leafy foods along with fruit, sounds like a great paleo diet to me!

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on April 22, 2012
at 01:33 PM

It is not what you think! Documented, with a control group.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on April 22, 2012
at 12:45 PM

You would like to see how well he can perform :P?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 22, 2012
at 11:45 AM

btw I do know how to spell "genetically". I don't know where that rogue "a" came from? lol

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on April 22, 2012
at 10:53 AM

I just didn't want to say the article is dumb without a valid reason, and I also had nothing better to do :)

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on April 22, 2012
at 10:18 AM

I cant believe that you spent that long writing about it.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 22, 2012
at 10:07 AM

Yeah, the references, including the Wikipedia article all mention chimpanzees. The author just wants to drive it home that we are genetiacally similar to chimpanzees and that is somehow relevant to grain eating. lol.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 22, 2012
at 10:06 AM

Yeah, the references, including the Wikipedia article all mention chimpanzees. LOL

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B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on April 22, 2012
at 09:28 AM

This is why study after study shows the power of grains. Yes, it's true that grains were not really used by man or monkey until just a few thousand years ago as Paleo writers love to point out. But grains are incredibly healthful because they are a natural plant just like virtually all of the food that we have consumed through tens of millions of years of evolutionary history. Grains work because virtually our entire system is built around plant-based eating. Read my link on Grains and Erectile Strength for just a few examples of what whole grains can do for you.

It's kinda hard to take this guy seriously. First of all he keeps reffering to his magical erectile book, and I'd also like to know the many studies that show the "power" of grains. The power to make people sick?

The article is filled, filled, filled with assumptions that don't make sense. Here are some examples of weird stuff :

  • In practice, most paleo diets are simply low carb diets with an emphasis on the above foods.
  • Usually fruit is shunned, except in small quantities, and very often "lean meats" are emphasized.
  • (...) potatoes are considered the root of all evil and any of the popular Paleo books will have abundant discussion centered around this concept.
  • a Caveman Diet ignores the fact that we are not really Cavemen.
  • the paleolithic era is only a blip on the evolutionary pathway of mankind, a small bump in the road on our journey.
  • only a very small percentage, around 2-5%, of our genetics comes from the last 20-60 million years.
  • we are only hunter-gatherers because of our intelligence. (isn't it upside down?)
  • Again, it is because we're much, much closer physiologically to a chimp than we are to the mythical hunter-gathering missing link. (wait, what?)
  • If you eat a boatload of meat, you are swimming upstream against your own physiology. (references?)
  • In fact, I think it's safe to say that most of the guys arriving at this site looking for solutions to their erectile dysfunction got here from the Meat and Saturated Fat Superhighway.

If he's talking about Loren Cordain etc., I think he has some valid points (eg. the usual low-carb, lean meats, potatoes-are-evil craze), but IMO it's just a guy trying to sell his ridiculous book. You have no idea how many people make "scientific" books about health. Think about the apple-only-diet against acne that even got featured in the news. It sickens me. Even I know more than most of those dudes, yet I won't be crazy enough to think that I can write a book telling people how to eat to cure their ailments. If you've got some anecdotes to share, share it in a forum. But please, don't make a book about your anecdotes!

The funniest part is his references. It's like something I'd write for school for an assignment : I'd just take random references that make a bit of sense and add them at the end to show I've done "research". Sad part is that it worked. I think it's fairly established now that animal products (vegetarian or not) are of utmost importance in any healthy diet.

What troubles me about the health community is the use of studies as proof of something. Everybody thinks he/she's a scientist nowadays. I'm afraid some people are even prepared to lie just to be right.

I've already said this before : an evolutionary perspective might not be optimal, at least it's natural and that's already a hell of a lot better than the SAD. When logic doesn't provide an answer yet, evolution can do the trick.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on April 22, 2012
at 10:53 AM

I just didn't want to say the article is dumb without a valid reason, and I also had nothing better to do :)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 22, 2012
at 10:07 AM

Yeah, the references, including the Wikipedia article all mention chimpanzees. The author just wants to drive it home that we are genetiacally similar to chimpanzees and that is somehow relevant to grain eating. lol.

8508fec4bae4a580d1e1b807058fee8e

(6259)

on April 22, 2012
at 05:02 PM

ED is a sign of cardiovascular, hormonal and insulin problems ... I seriously doubt adding a bunch of grains is going to help! Excess body fat (especially) in the abdominal area is estrogenic - not good for men! Insulin resistance tends to cause elevated androgens like testosterone in women leading to greater acne, etc.

F03dc3c461d749c573bb81603aff796b

(20)

on April 22, 2012
at 02:42 PM

Interesting that chimpanzees are mentioned. They do not eat grains or beans. Guess they are ahead of us in the good diet department, they eat meat, and leafy foods along with fruit, sounds like a great paleo diet to me!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 22, 2012
at 11:45 AM

btw I do know how to spell "genetically". I don't know where that rogue "a" came from? lol

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 22, 2012
at 10:06 AM

Yeah, the references, including the Wikipedia article all mention chimpanzees. LOL

6b8d12fc3e43179f9ae1765a4d1a9dc2

(5914)

on April 22, 2012
at 10:18 AM

I cant believe that you spent that long writing about it.

8508fec4bae4a580d1e1b807058fee8e

(6259)

on April 22, 2012
at 05:03 PM

Yeah and chimps are eating the American Food Pyramid (now Plate) ??!! - how much of their diet is grains?

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on April 22, 2012
at 10:42 AM

Allowme to say what you all are thinking. He's a dumbass. The end

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 22, 2012
at 09:57 AM

Pretty bad. The article is not meant for people that are on the paleo diet. Fairly hard to convince people that have seen improvements in their health, that they are doing it wrong but it's fairly easy to convince people that havn't tried paleo that paleo is bad. I mean, who can argue with "Our genetics are about 98% similar to that of a chimpanzee"? Everyone knows that chimps eat mostly grains, right?

In the ad for the erectile dysfunction book, the author gives no clues about the diet recommended (we can assume there are grains involved) but does mention that there will be recommended foods and supplements. This is just the kind of thing that will appeal to people that don't want to take anything out of their diets but are quite happy to add more foods to it. They will get a surprise when they get to the chapter that no doubt recommends calorie restriction and possibly exercise.

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F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 22, 2012
at 12:09 PM

Peak Erectile Strength Diet? Huh? What are you reading? Penis envy again????

Okay, let's start with the basics - who is Lee Myer? Have you seen this guy's picture? I bet he needs not only diet - he needs all kind of things to get his peak erectile strength.

What is his educational background? I don't see any PhD attached to his name. How does he know how to achieve peak erectile strength? Is he a male porn star? I would like to see how well he can perform - preferably documented in APA format.

If you really want peak erectile strength, diet and supplements won't do. You need something else. But that's not Paleo topic anymore.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 22, 2012
at 01:33 PM

It is not what you think! Documented, with a control group.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on April 22, 2012
at 12:45 PM

You would like to see how well he can perform :P?

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on April 22, 2012
at 11:12 AM

Among the 5 references he used to make his assumptions is Wikipedia. I know there are some legit things on Wikipedia, but if you want to be taken seriously you're better off sourcing your junior high guidance counselor

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