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Leaky Gut driving me insane!

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 19, 2013 at 8:10 PM

I have a leaky gut from candida. I react by breaking out on my face. I have been treating my candida and trying to avoid inflammation in my gut. But my reactions seem to be getting worse. I know they say it gets worse before it gets better - but I don't think it's ever going to get better. I started reacting to almonds.. I used to not react to non-soaked almonds, now I am reacting to soaked almonds. My diet is basically 2 salads a day, with protein, and some meat and steamed veggies at night. I have been doing this for seven months. is this ever going to go away? AHHH

I was taking liquid milk thistle no alcohol, and wasn't reacting. Then I tried the capsule - nothing else in it - but I reacted bad. what gives?

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on May 22, 2013
at 06:19 AM

Good news - I've been eating a bit of eggs, tomato, and dairy here and there. Not much and not every day, because they still affect me, but not as severely as before. This means I can eat out sometimes if I eat clean the rest of the week! Bone broth and probiotics have been a huge help.

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on March 23, 2013
at 11:58 PM

Wheresthebeef, I concur wholeheartedly. Veggies and sugars degrade me, meat and fat, and properly timed good starches make me a dynamo.

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on March 22, 2013
at 01:07 AM

This is probably the best answer. I find that in general the less plant foods and sugar I eat the better I do. I also have leaky gut and some type of SIBO.

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on March 20, 2013
at 12:21 AM

This is Dr. K's version of the autoimmune diet http://thyroidbook.com/blog/autoimmune-gut-repair-diet/

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on March 19, 2013
at 11:12 PM

Oh, and I started taking BioCor Optimum enzyme powder from Beyond a Century recently, a lot with every meal, and I've been gaining weight/muscle like gang busters. Also heals the gut.

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on March 19, 2013
at 11:10 PM

Doesn't STRAIN, not stain, lol!

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on March 19, 2013
at 11:07 PM

Cook your meat and veggies in bone stock. Buy a nice portable coffee mug like Contigo, and fill it with hot bone stock before you leave for work, Drink it like others drink coffee. Agree with Roth that veggies should be well-cooked.

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on March 19, 2013
at 11:02 PM

Cook your meat and veggies in bone stock. What's on your salad?

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This is a hard question. I was diagnosed with MS this year, and I know that my two "exacerbations" that led to diagnosis were both triggered by binges - one after Thanksgiving, one after Christmas. So in my case, even if my leaky gut heals, I'm never going to feel safe testing foods to see which ones are okay. So I'm probably on this diet forever. It definitely makes it hard to travel, because I can't eat in restaurants. In the US, I always stay at suites with fridge and stove, but going out of the country again is going to take some serious planning.

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at 08:57 PM

Stop eating raw or lightly cooked vegetables. Cook them until they dissolve in your mouth without having to chew.

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on March 19, 2013
at 11:07 PM

I took an ALCAT food allergy blood test a few years back. Cut those foods out, felt MUCH better. Takes the guess work out so you can get on with it. I recommend it.

Second, veggies make it worse. Eat em once a day if you must and cook them.

Any bran or endosperm from any grain, even skins of tubers, can aggravate it.

Meat and fat, ZC for a few months, will go a long way to let your gut heal as well as your metabolism. Once fat adapted (takes a month to get going) you can get into intermittent fasting. Eating two big meals and fasting 16hrs rests the gut well and gives it time to be empty and heal.

Stand on the toilet seat and squat down on the balls of your feet, heels up, butt to heels. Elimination this way is natural and doesn't stain. Are you pushing or breathing any differently when you go to the toilet? If so, your making it worse. I the right position, it'll work itself out with no help from you.

Fermented cabbage helps, but Dr. Ohirraa (spelling?) or healthy trinity probiotics really work wonders.

Taking bentonite (but NOT the usual recommended psyllium husk) several times a day between meals for a month or so really helps to get healing started by cleaning the gut quite well.

All of the above I do/have done and have helped myself immensely.

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on March 19, 2013
at 11:12 PM

Oh, and I started taking BioCor Optimum enzyme powder from Beyond a Century recently, a lot with every meal, and I've been gaining weight/muscle like gang busters. Also heals the gut.

Medium avatar

(2417)

on March 19, 2013
at 11:10 PM

Doesn't STRAIN, not stain, lol!

9215c97e4d3296f0de599ef9292cee15

on March 22, 2013
at 01:07 AM

This is probably the best answer. I find that in general the less plant foods and sugar I eat the better I do. I also have leaky gut and some type of SIBO.

Medium avatar

(2417)

on March 23, 2013
at 11:58 PM

Wheresthebeef, I concur wholeheartedly. Veggies and sugars degrade me, meat and fat, and properly timed good starches make me a dynamo.

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on March 19, 2013
at 08:53 PM

I've been eliminating foods for almost four years, but kept having all kinds of symptoms until I finally went 100% strict on the autoimmune protocol for paleo. I actually figured out most of the foods to avoid on my own, but after I found the AIP, all of my experiences made sense in a mighty life-changing "AHA!!!".

More info: http://www.thepaleomom.com/2012/05/modifying-paleo-for-autoimmune.html

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on March 21, 2013
at 11:13 PM

You are probably reacting to the capsules because of the chemical makeup of the actual capsule. Oftentimes, the casings that contain supplements are made from products containing glutens, glycerin, or other allergens/chemicals. Now that you have rid your bowels of Candida, there are still big holes in the lining, which will still allow for large chain proteins to pass into the bloodstream. The body reacts to this by developing an allergy: releasing antibodies to those large proteins that are "leaking" into the bloodstream. This is likely why your reactions worsened. There was no longer Candida plugging up those holes! Bone broth provides essential nutrients, overcooking your vegetables "denatures" the protein strands. That means that it breaks them down into smaller pieces, since it's not staying in your intestines long enough for that to happen. Alternate the foods you eat by at least four days that means four days in between eating the same food, so that your body doesn't begin to form that allergic response. Keep up with the fish oils, they'll help you coat your intestines long enough to let it heal, which should take another few months. Then begin adding things back in very slowly, alternating still, with at least four days in between foods with the same ingredients.

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on March 20, 2013
at 12:00 AM

Thank you all for your replies. I am blessed in that I do not suffer (yet) from any autoimmune diseases, or crohns, etc. My only issue is leaky gut (w/ candida) brought on by excessive antibiotic use over the decades for sinus infections (which are totally gone now). I have gotten rid of most of the candida as far as I can tell (via Nystatin). I'm not sure the Elemental diet would be right for me. Seems the more I try to fix my gut, the worse it gets. So I have to draw the line somewhere. I react by breaking out in red pimples, sometimes in a rash, sometimes more cystic. it's not bad, at least not anymore, because I know how to control it by avoiding foods. Even supplementing with L-Glutamine breaks me out (but bone broth is great and I eat it daily now). Perhaps the meat/fat only diet is something I should consider. I eat about 3 avocadoes a day. Can I eat avocadoes on the meat/fat diet? Is there a name for this diet? What about non-starchy veggies? I would think veggies would be ok - is it because they still contain some phytates? No trouble going to the bathroom here. No problem with stains ;) Thanks again!

-MGL

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on March 20, 2013
at 12:21 AM

This is Dr. K's version of the autoimmune diet http://thyroidbook.com/blog/autoimmune-gut-repair-diet/

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on March 19, 2013
at 10:48 PM

are you willing to try the elemental diet to heal?

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on March 19, 2013
at 09:18 PM

thanks Buttons,

Did this cure your leaky gut? How long did it take? Actually this is what I've been doing - I found Dr. Khazarrian's website and autoimmune protocol, about six weeks ago, and have gone without the nuts - until I tested them a few days ago. I was able to clear my skin 100%, which I believe means no inflammation. But during that time I also tested various foods like S Boulardii, fermented veggies, (the milk thistle in capsules), and I break out from everything. My plan was to stop testing and just keep trying this, but I fear my LGS will never heal. I think I've removed most of the pathogens, as I have very little die-off from candida anymore. The autoimmune protocol really sucks. It's especially tough if one has to travel. I really hope they aren't saying we need to be on this forever.

My best,

-MGL

564468f093b36d9cdeb8adb138446363

(188)

on March 19, 2013
at 09:26 PM

This is a hard question. I was diagnosed with MS this year, and I know that my two "exacerbations" that led to diagnosis were both triggered by binges - one after Thanksgiving, one after Christmas. So in my case, even if my leaky gut heals, I'm never going to feel safe testing foods to see which ones are okay. So I'm probably on this diet forever. It definitely makes it hard to travel, because I can't eat in restaurants. In the US, I always stay at suites with fridge and stove, but going out of the country again is going to take some serious planning.

564468f093b36d9cdeb8adb138446363

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on May 22, 2013
at 06:19 AM

Good news - I've been eating a bit of eggs, tomato, and dairy here and there. Not much and not every day, because they still affect me, but not as severely as before. This means I can eat out sometimes if I eat clean the rest of the week! Bone broth and probiotics have been a huge help.

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