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Human Growth Hormone: Yes or no

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created September 24, 2011 at 5:37 PM

I am thinking of taking recombinant human growth hormone and was wondering what the Paleos think about this drug(however "un"-paleo it may be). I have heard many horror stories about altered bone structure and facial appearance. My interests in this drug are to thicken cartilage(especially vocal cords). ANy ideas???

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on October 15, 2011
at 01:55 AM

the goal is to thicken vocal cords to deepen the voice for occupational and general lifestyle purposes.

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on September 26, 2011
at 01:37 AM

Depends..........

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on September 25, 2011
at 05:24 PM

it does work for this but there is no FDA indication.

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on September 24, 2011
at 07:16 PM

There isn't enough context in this post. Information like age, what GH readings you got on an endocrine panel. The standard GH deficiency test is an i.v. push of insulin after an overnight fast. What were the results?

If you've had no tests done and are looking to deepen your voice or something, testosterone would be the obvious route for that. What was your testosterone level? If it was low and you're young, 9 times out of 10 it's a zinc deficiency.

Intervening directly in our intricate endocrine cascades with exogenous hormones is a terrible idea unless you've ensured that you don't have any nutrient deficiencies (which you very likely do) and the consequences of no intervention are dangerous. What you're describing sounds like recreational use of the wrong hormone for an arbitrary reason.

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on September 24, 2011
at 06:39 PM

There's plenty of other ways to raise your bodies own production of the NATURAL form of it (as in non-synthetic). High intensity strength training, low carb dieting, getting full 8hrs+ a night sleeps, intermittent fasting, certain herbs like goji berries (acts as a secretagogue), mucuna pruriens, deer or elk antler velvet and colostrum and probably more things I haven't thought of.

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on September 25, 2011
at 06:22 AM

If you're turning to the internet for advice about whether to take HGH, you probably shouldn't.

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on September 24, 2011
at 06:49 PM

You're not likely going to find many paleo folks being ok with it. I don't think there's any problem with supplemental steroids or hormones, if you're a strength athlete or bodybuilder. The horror stories are 99% fiction, the results are significant.

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on September 24, 2011
at 06:06 PM

My idea is that taking HGH is a stupid and potentially dangerous idea. I don't quite understand your reason for wanting to take it. As an aside, your vocal cords aren't made of cartilage.

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on September 24, 2011
at 10:22 PM

I have two friends who have facial distortions as a result of HGH. One of them also has the prostate of an old man and he's in his late 30s.

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on September 26, 2011
at 12:16 AM

Any time you supplement a hormone it will cause the body to downregulate it's own secretion of said hormone.

This can be a problem with hormones that are meant to achieve cellular signaling in part through pulsatile secretion (sharp spikes in levels). This is true of testosterone, growth hormone, etc. When these types of hormones are supplemented, the supplementation comes through as a long wave, and not a sharp spike. Thus you lose some or many of the benefits. Supplement too much and the body's own secretion can compltely shut down then atrophy.

Another issue is that human growth hormone is secreted by the body in at least 4 subtypes, while synthetic HGH only matches one of those subtypes. The significance of the different types is not yet fully understood.

Before even considering HGH you should determine what your IGF-1 is, and then compare that value to those taken from normal populations by age and sex (this dataset linked below, from U. of West Virginia Medical Center is particularly helpful). Insulin like growth factor (IGF-1) is a more stable marker of endogenous GH secretion, because natural GH levels are highly pulsatile. http://www.hsc.wvu.edu/som/cmed/c8/results/laboratoryTests/pdfs/IGF-1%20%28All%29.pdf

Then use Paleo diet and exercise principles (as others have mentioned in this thread) and see how far you can shift it upward (it was worth a one quartile improvement for myself).

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on September 24, 2011
at 10:34 PM

My interests in this drug are to thicken cartilage(especially vocal cords).

Do you have injured vocal folds? Are you trying to change your voice? Explain, please...

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on September 25, 2011
at 05:24 PM

it does work for this but there is no FDA indication.

10dd073d45b65f00ad31149959d08b8e

(114)

on October 15, 2011
at 01:55 AM

the goal is to thicken vocal cords to deepen the voice for occupational and general lifestyle purposes.

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on September 24, 2011
at 10:21 PM

You would have to take significant doses of growth hormone to get facial and bone distortions of the kind you describe. Barry Bonds' ring finger got bigger, and eventually he needed a larger hat. Though of course the slugger maintains he never "knowingly" injected HGH.

Somatopause (Age Related Growth Hormone Deficiency) is a medically recognized condition for which growth hormone can be, and is prescribed. HGH runs around $1,200 - 1,500 per month.

There is much to be said for Zak's list of natural ways to enhance your growth hormone levels. Inn the same vein, you might want to check out a product called Secretropin (a secretagogue):

http://www.secretropinrx.com/

I have no first-hand experience with the product, nor with the company.

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on September 24, 2011
at 09:20 PM

how do you acquire human growth hormones?

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on September 24, 2011
at 06:04 PM

don't do it! not sustainable and the fact there are horror stories involving HGH should be enough said...

just curious - why do you want a bigger neck?

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