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Is beef and dairy still pastured in Eastern Europe?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created September 05, 2011 at 5:51 AM

I ask because my husband and I occasionally like to buy deli meat, dairy products and other delicacies from our local Russian store. One of the cheeses we buy is from Lithuania, some sour cream from Moldova, and we also buy some blood and tongue head cheese from Russia and a few other goodies (yes it has nitrite in it but the ingredient list is clean besides that and it's a treat.) We also get Cod liver packed in its own oil. I wonder what the baltic water quality is like. Would the livers be more likely to have lots of mercury compared to, say, a danish brand like King Oscar?

I was reading that countries with cheap agricultural land tend to grassfeed by simple economics but I was wondering if anyone here knew for sure. Also, I sort of wonder just how clean the pasture is anyway... heavy metals and such.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 06, 2011
at 04:01 AM

http://www.businesslithuania.lt/de/directory/headings/milk-dairy-products maybe your brandt or company is in this list?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 06, 2011
at 03:48 AM

is there any numer on the packages like like LT 597949 EG. so you can track back the producers. Actually i think this is on all products. I have here heavy cream with the label. AT 50151 EG and so i can track back the producers. I get the factory who produces this organic cream.

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on September 05, 2011
at 07:29 PM

The dairy products I was using specifically said they don't use hormones or antibiotics on the labeling.

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on September 05, 2011
at 07:28 PM

Nope I'm not sure where it is fished. I just meant baltic as in the water surrounding the baltic countries. I'll start buying the Dannish brand just in case, though. I just didn't buy it much before because I have to mail order it instead of going across town. :-)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 05, 2011
at 02:55 PM

Also it has a reason on trading. Russia wanna sentence lithuania cause of trading with ukraine. Its something political beside the anitbiotika found.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 05, 2011
at 02:54 PM

http://www.laenderdaten.de/umwelt/umweltprobleme.aspx look for Molda*and*litauen* *****Moldau::Heavy use of agricultural chemicals, including banned pesticides such as DDT, has contaminated soil and groundwater; extensive soil erosion from poor farming methods***Litauen:::contamination of soil and groundwater with petroleum products and chemicals at military bases********####http://www.koenigsberger-express.com/index.php?b=1&id=19&a=5&id_article=1851&PHPSESSID=ab90991c1abc78f61b7410f5106ba684 german text on russian officials stop lithuanian diary cause of Antibiotika in the diary.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 05, 2011
at 07:34 AM

http://www.google.com/search?q=nuclear+waste+baltic+sea&rls=com.microsoft:de:{referrer:source?}&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7_____de google results"nuclear+waste+baltic+sea"

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on November 12, 2011
at 09:59 PM

I live in Russia in the environs of St.Petersburg nearby to a nuclear reactor. Needless to say, air, water, soil - everything is contaminated. Not only with radiation and heavy metals but also with lots of other toxic stuff.

"Moldau::Heavy use of agricultural chemicals, including banned pesticides such as DDT, has contaminated soil and groundwater; extensive soil erosion from poor farming methods**Litauen:::contamination of soil and groundwater with petroleum products and chemicals"

Same thing here in RF, esp. in our region which is one of the most polluted in the country.

You might have found some products from grass-fed animals in early-mid-90s. Now nearly all farmers are using formula feed (even at small farms). All pastured cattle and birds still supplemented with formula feed (maybe just grains at best). There is only one farm I'm aware of in our region that claims their milk cows are not fed with formula, although the farmers not ashamed to tell they give them bread (maybe grains too(?), I don't know).

"Farmers' products" are becoming more and more popular but still there is no demand for grass-fed. It must be admitted that today most people in Russia are completely ignorant about (both human and animal) nutrition (including those who seek for "all natural" and farmers themselves).

For most folks "natural" meat & dairy means no antibiotics and hormones in the first place. Although farmers claim that they're not using them, it's hard to believe that's true since a) formulas have a high probability of containg both; b) grain-fed animals are more likely to get diseases and thus to be treated with antibiotics; ??) as far as I know, there are still no organic standards in Russia; d,e,f...) - other reasons that I'm unaware of.

In brief, that's what we have for today(

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 05, 2011
at 07:27 AM

I wonder what the baltic water quality is like

dont wonder take it serious!!! There was a nuclear bike tour through thefinnland and estonia. About nuclear waste in the baltic sea. From what i know the baltic sea is a trash pot.

Estonia is one of the cleanest countries in The baltic. A friend of mine did this clean up estonia they also did it in finnland. They clean up the landscap from all the trash. i would recommend estonia as the most eco concerning baltic country and the most forward thinking country. beside with finnland. Aslo St. Petersburg has a lot healthconcerning people which i met in finnland.

I know this countries have pasture land. I only drive through the baltics from berlin to finnland over tallin. I saw a lot pasture land. And there is a lot pasture land. Also there is environmetal issues.

Are you sure that it is fished in the baltic?

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 05, 2011
at 02:54 PM

http://www.laenderdaten.de/umwelt/umweltprobleme.aspx look for Molda*and*litauen* *****Moldau::Heavy use of agricultural chemicals, including banned pesticides such as DDT, has contaminated soil and groundwater; extensive soil erosion from poor farming methods***Litauen:::contamination of soil and groundwater with petroleum products and chemicals at military bases********####http://www.koenigsberger-express.com/index.php?b=1&id=19&a=5&id_article=1851&PHPSESSID=ab90991c1abc78f61b7410f5106ba684 german text on russian officials stop lithuanian diary cause of Antibiotika in the diary.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 05, 2011
at 02:55 PM

Also it has a reason on trading. Russia wanna sentence lithuania cause of trading with ukraine. Its something political beside the anitbiotika found.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 05, 2011
at 07:34 AM

http://www.google.com/search?q=nuclear+waste+baltic+sea&rls=com.microsoft:de:{referrer:source?}&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7_____de google results"nuclear+waste+baltic+sea"

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on September 05, 2011
at 07:28 PM

Nope I'm not sure where it is fished. I just meant baltic as in the water surrounding the baltic countries. I'll start buying the Dannish brand just in case, though. I just didn't buy it much before because I have to mail order it instead of going across town. :-)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 06, 2011
at 04:01 AM

http://www.businesslithuania.lt/de/directory/headings/milk-dairy-products maybe your brandt or company is in this list?

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on September 05, 2011
at 07:29 PM

The dairy products I was using specifically said they don't use hormones or antibiotics on the labeling.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 06, 2011
at 03:48 AM

is there any numer on the packages like like LT 597949 EG. so you can track back the producers. Actually i think this is on all products. I have here heavy cream with the label. AT 50151 EG and so i can track back the producers. I get the factory who produces this organic cream.

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