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How to survive a hippie diet?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 06, 2011 at 10:03 PM

Hope I don't offend anyone with that title.

Right now (and for the next few months) I'm living on a farm where we share meals three times a day five days a week... it's not vegetarian but mostly grains (a lot of quinoa/amaranth/rice/oats), beans, bread, and greens. Fresh eggs and veggies (and very rarely, venison or chicken) are great for paleo, but HELP! How do I share meals but keep it a little more paleo? I'm not too strict, plus right now I don't really have access to or money for great grassfed meat or organic grocery stores. But my stomach has been protesting. What is the lesser evil: nongluten grains or legumes? What about goat dairy? (We've got goats here on the farm.) Is there anything I can eat or take to help with digestion of grains and beans? And how do I manage it socially? Any thoughts would be great.

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on March 07, 2011
at 01:27 AM

Quinoa and amaranth are death for me.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on March 07, 2011
at 01:27 AM

Oh man, I feel your pain. I was in a similar situation two years ago and had to go back on Librax, my IBS med. If I were in that situation again, I'd pick rice and lentils, as those seem the best for me at least.

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on March 06, 2011
at 11:32 PM

both of these = Epic answers HAHAHAHA

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on March 06, 2011
at 11:06 PM

Hippies prefer to be smoked.

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on March 06, 2011
at 10:42 PM

And god, here's another thing I should have mentioned, but I'm not gonna edit--You'll be working on a farm. Probably you can tolerate more starch intake than under ordinary (for us first-world sedentar types) circumstances. So as long as you're burning it off busting your butt doing farm chores you should probably be OK.

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on March 06, 2011
at 10:39 PM

Oh and a word of warning about that goat's milk though, since you'd be taking it straight from the goat: Be mindful of what the goats have been eating. If the farmers know what they're doing, and most farmers probably do or they wouldn't still be farming, they won't let the nanny goats go anywhere near something that would make the milk taste bad. But make sure.

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Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

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on March 06, 2011
at 11:03 PM

How to survive eating with hippies: eat the hippies.

60199d3a580a4e17969059609e48e678

(883)

on March 06, 2011
at 11:32 PM

both of these = Epic answers HAHAHAHA

Ef9f83cb4e1826261a44c173f733789e

(13635)

on March 06, 2011
at 11:06 PM

Hippies prefer to be smoked.

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F9a0b72f38860d7601afd5a45bb53394

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on March 06, 2011
at 10:38 PM

Goat dairy's great. It's got a good reputation across health-nut classes; granola hippies and WAPF types and paleo who eat dairy all like it. It's supposed to be closer to human milk's nutritional profile than cow's milk is.

I suppose you could get by on eggs and veggies and the occasional venison or chicken but I can't help thinking you'd still be really hungry unless you ate way more than what the other folks on the farm would perceive as "your share" of the eggs. How accessible is that goat's milk? I wish you could at least get butter or coconut oil or something.

Of the grains, the rice is the least offensive to the GI tract, and is probably even the true grain with the lowest amount of phytate (I say probably, based on what I've heard, though I haven't heard much to contest that possibility). Of the legumes, lentils would be the least problematic; they require the least soaking.

Quinoa and amaranth are not true grains; they come from broadleaf plants. I'm not up on their phytate content but I do know they are very starchy. On the other hand they're gluten-free and will not leave you in agony if you've been off gluten long enough that you'd feel the difference.

I wish I could give you an answer about how to deal with people on this matter. I went through a similar situation last September when I went to visit my little girl's paternal great-aunts for Labor Day weekend. We had warned them ahead of time that some of us couldn't eat carby things. The last meal we were offered there was some kind of "ancestral wheat" casserole. Not just carbs, a whole casserole dish full of wheat. I couldn't believe it. I didn't say anything, though, and ate dinner with everybody else.

They don't always "get it" and I'm wondering how much I really care about arguing the point; if you don't have an alphabet after your name nobody much wants to hear what you have to say, and sometimes even then they will view you as a crackpot if words come out of your mouth that people do not typically associate with your particular configuration of alphabet soup. I.e., a cardiologist saying saturated fat does not cause heart disease, as was Dr. Atkins's "crime."

F9a0b72f38860d7601afd5a45bb53394

(3618)

on March 06, 2011
at 10:42 PM

And god, here's another thing I should have mentioned, but I'm not gonna edit--You'll be working on a farm. Probably you can tolerate more starch intake than under ordinary (for us first-world sedentar types) circumstances. So as long as you're burning it off busting your butt doing farm chores you should probably be OK.

F9a0b72f38860d7601afd5a45bb53394

(3618)

on March 06, 2011
at 10:39 PM

Oh and a word of warning about that goat's milk though, since you'd be taking it straight from the goat: Be mindful of what the goats have been eating. If the farmers know what they're doing, and most farmers probably do or they wouldn't still be farming, they won't let the nanny goats go anywhere near something that would make the milk taste bad. But make sure.

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on March 07, 2011
at 07:47 PM

If you are in the country there will be raodkill check early in the morning for the fresh stuff cut off poopy meat if there is any most of the time on small animals there isn't much damage if you don't know how to skin a animal look on-line small animals like raccoons, skunks, squirrels, rabbits and nutria are really easy and fast deer are more of a time consumer this may not save you but is totally worth the effort!

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on March 07, 2011
at 03:17 AM

Rice (specially white rice), potatoes and sweet potatoes are some of the best accepted carb sources, though they are not strictly paleo. Lentils are often better tolerated than other legumes, and you should try to have your lentils, or any other legume soaked for 24 hours to reduce toxin content. Socially the best reason to provide is that this improves your digestion. Whether you should choose rice or lentils, I think it comes down to which food you tolerate better, individually.

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on March 07, 2011
at 01:16 AM

Try to bring more fish and other types of seafood into the household. Just make sure it's from good sources and wild caught. And if you can get fattier cuts of meat on your own at some nearby grocery, those are usually cheaper. Plus, there's been some posts about soaking techniques to make legumes and oatmeal less toxic.

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