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Weston Price foundation and grains

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 11, 2012 at 2:43 AM

So here's an interesting question in regards to the proper preparation of grains as espoused by the WAPF. The WAPF suggests that properly preparing grains involves soaking and allowing the natural phytase to break apart phytic acid in the grains, allowing improved absorption of minerals and such. Now if you look at grain fed cattle, you'll notice that man decided to intervene in an attempt to fatten the livestock at a faster rate by introducing multiple enzymes (produced by transgenic bacteria, of course) to break down formerly undigestible materials. One of which include....PHYTASE! So, indirectly, industrially raised cattle is being fed 'properly'. Or are they.....?

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on October 11, 2012
at 04:51 PM

I have a feeling the question i originally asked somehow flew past everyone here. These responses are not answering my question..

Dfeb3c1ef269c5dc03154d1689c14373

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on October 11, 2012
at 04:49 PM

....If you don't know what you're talking about can you please just not comment? Ancient egyptians have some of the most rampant tooth decay uncovered through archeological remains. It is also these egyptians that were arguably the first to implement the fermentation of grains into beer via the yeast saccharomyces cerevisiae. Please think before you type something next time. Thanks, dumbo.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on October 11, 2012
at 02:44 PM

Meh, digestive enzymes (even if made by transgenic bacteria) aren't scary.

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on October 11, 2012
at 02:12 PM

People have been eating properly prepared grains for thousands of years with no apparent issues.

Dfeb3c1ef269c5dc03154d1689c14373

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on October 11, 2012
at 01:42 PM

didn't say bacteria was introduced into cattle, just some enzymes..

Dfeb3c1ef269c5dc03154d1689c14373

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on October 11, 2012
at 12:14 PM

You really are dense, huh? That's the whole point, dumbo. I'm asking if that's what 'properly' prepared grains are doing to cows, then is that what they'll do to us as well(irregardless of the 'proper' preparation)?

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on October 11, 2012
at 06:20 AM

That's dumb, Steven. It's obviously not optimal. We've seen what feeding grains to cows does.

Dfeb3c1ef269c5dc03154d1689c14373

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on October 11, 2012
at 04:38 AM

Your argument is because it's different it's not optimal?

0a9ad4e577fe24a6b8aafa1dd7a50c79

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on October 11, 2012
at 03:59 AM

The cows are obligate herbivores and they eat GRASS. Even if they're being fed healthy grains, they're still not eating their natural diet. And phytase + GMO corn/soy/wheat feed is still crappy.

Dfeb3c1ef269c5dc03154d1689c14373

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on October 11, 2012
at 03:29 AM

Cows do gain an advantage in nutrient absorption through phytase enhanced feed, though (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17699056)

Dfeb3c1ef269c5dc03154d1689c14373

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on October 11, 2012
at 03:26 AM

You're absolutely right. I meant poultry and swine. Sorry!

Dfeb3c1ef269c5dc03154d1689c14373

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on October 11, 2012
at 03:26 AM

my apologies, i meant poultry and swine, not cattle. An example of the enhanced feed im referring to: http://www.abvista.com/products/enzymes/phytase/quantum/quantum-blue

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on October 11, 2012
at 03:13 AM

Uhhh what? Cattle digest plant matter because of natural symbiotic microbes. I'm unaware of any unnatural bacteria being introduced into cattle to enhance digestion. Those microbes do produce phytase as well as enzymes like cellulase that enable digestion of plant mattress that is otherwise undigestible by humans.

Dfeb3c1ef269c5dc03154d1689c14373

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on October 11, 2012
at 04:51 PM

I have a feeling the question i originally asked somehow flew past everyone here. These responses are not answering my question..

Dfeb3c1ef269c5dc03154d1689c14373

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on October 11, 2012
at 03:26 AM

You're absolutely right. I meant poultry and swine. Sorry!

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on October 11, 2012
at 02:44 PM

Meh, digestive enzymes (even if made by transgenic bacteria) aren't scary.

Dfeb3c1ef269c5dc03154d1689c14373

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on October 11, 2012
at 01:42 PM

didn't say bacteria was introduced into cattle, just some enzymes..

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