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GMO Wheat vs. Organic Non-GMO Wheat

Commented on January 28, 2014
Created January 27, 2014 at 9:32 PM

I am Very new to Paleo and actually started Paleo after hearing about Wheat Belly and how bad GMO wheat is. My question is about organic/ NON GMO wheat, is that wheat still bad for you and if so how and why?

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on January 28, 2014
at 02:07 PM

Funny, the only problems with contaminating RR plants come from farmers who have been actively selecting for the trait, seeking to avoid buying it outright. They knock down all plants that do not have Roundup protection, then save the seeds from the surviving few. Eventually the trait is set in their own seedstock. Without this selection pressure, RR plants have no advantage in nature and the genes will not spread beyond a tiny fraction of the population.

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on January 28, 2014
at 11:25 AM

I'd be weary of them anyway. Most of the GMO plants are made round-up resistant, so that means they'll be sprayed with a lot more roundup, so you'll have a larger glyphosate residue. Corn is a different beast, it's been injected with genes to make BT, so that toxin is all over its insides.

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on January 28, 2014
at 01:39 AM

I also concur with @Matt 11 & @lannit . The pursuit of super enhanced protein wheats to "feed the masses" looks like it's bit us in the ass. :(

Addtionally @samc posted an article about escaped GMO wheat. :(

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on January 28, 2014
at 01:34 AM

Nice catch @samc !

I was under the impression that GMO wheat not a product used in the US. I guess I'm still kinda correct? :)

I never considered that the giant M might allow some Frankenwheat to escape. Maybe someone will turn the tables on M with an enormous class action suit by wheat growers for the damages caused by their lab rat escaping.

It's not nice to fool mother nature.

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on January 27, 2014
at 10:25 PM

Seriously its like my old apartment in NYC. If I saw one cockroach on the kitchen counter I knew that thousands of them were right behind the walls. http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/05/30/187103955/gmo-wheat-found-in-oregon-field-howd-it-get-there

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on January 28, 2014
at 05:04 AM

If you are absolutely going to eat wheat (which I'd advise against), fermented bread products (like sourdough) are the best. The bacteria break down a significant amount of the proteins, lectins, etc.

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on January 27, 2014
at 11:37 PM

concur with Iannit and Matt. The harshest types of wheat are the hybrids that took the market by storm around 1960. If you want to try old types of wheat, the best known is red fife wheat, an Ukrainian heirloom grown in the US and Canada. I have sampled pane di Altamura in Southern Italy, (google it), which is lauded by Horatius, so at least 2500 yrs old, and it is effectively lighter and different. It is also yellow inside.

F291857fa12a0291688ea994343156dc

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on January 28, 2014
at 01:39 AM

I also concur with @Matt 11 & @lannit . The pursuit of super enhanced protein wheats to "feed the masses" looks like it's bit us in the ass. :(

Addtionally @samc posted an article about escaped GMO wheat. :(

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on January 27, 2014
at 11:16 PM

@Matt 11Right...there is no GMO wheat. The strain of semi dwarf wheat used in about 90% of all flour products was aggressively but conventionally cross-bred and as a result has a large number of novel proteins that are thought to be the problem. This form of wheat can create high blood sugar levels, weight gain, abdominal fat, bloating, gas, cramps and can trigger other autoimmune disorders like arthritis. Here's the trick...when you stop eating wheat, be very careful about choosing gluten-free foods since most are made with GMO corn, soy, canola, cotton seed and sugar beet ingredients (GMOs also have novel proteins as well as Roundup herbicide residues, both of which can result in digestive, reproductive and other serious health problems). In short, going wheat free means going GMO-free as well...

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on January 27, 2014
at 10:28 PM

I don't think it has been sufficiently proven that they are bad for you. However I'm pretty much against having my food altered. I wish I could find fruits and veggies that were more like the ones I grew up on, not so big and super sweet. As for wheat, we be Paleo so I could care less which is better or worse - Let em eat cake!

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on January 28, 2014
at 11:25 AM

I'd be weary of them anyway. Most of the GMO plants are made round-up resistant, so that means they'll be sprayed with a lot more roundup, so you'll have a larger glyphosate residue. Corn is a different beast, it's been injected with genes to make BT, so that toxin is all over its insides.

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on January 27, 2014
at 09:43 PM

GMO wheat does not exist, at least for consumers.

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on January 27, 2014
at 10:25 PM

Seriously its like my old apartment in NYC. If I saw one cockroach on the kitchen counter I knew that thousands of them were right behind the walls. http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/05/30/187103955/gmo-wheat-found-in-oregon-field-howd-it-get-there

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on January 28, 2014
at 02:07 PM

Funny, the only problems with contaminating RR plants come from farmers who have been actively selecting for the trait, seeking to avoid buying it outright. They knock down all plants that do not have Roundup protection, then save the seeds from the surviving few. Eventually the trait is set in their own seedstock. Without this selection pressure, RR plants have no advantage in nature and the genes will not spread beyond a tiny fraction of the population.

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