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Did Obama Betray Americans with the "MONSANTO PROTECTION ACT?"

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created March 28, 2013 at 1:25 PM

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Crop subsidies are one of the most Liberal/Democratic policies out there. One of the most Democratic things George W. Bush did was give crop subsidies even more economic worth overseas. If GWB stuck to his Republican guns, he wouldn't have been such a bad Prez because at least the Right-wingers are against federal crop subsidy programs.

Slipped into the Agricultural Appropriations Bill, which passed through Congress last week, was a small provision that???s a big deal for Monsanto and its opponents. The provision protects genetically modified seeds from litigation in the face of health risks and has thus been dubbed the ???Monsanto Protection Act??? by activists who oppose the biotech giant. President Barack Obama signed the spending bill, including the provision, into law on it would strip federal courts of the authority to immediately halt the planting and sale of genetically modified (GMO) seed crop regardless of any consumer health concerns. Wrong.

Yesterday, that slender hope, the hope that Obama might finally do something for the good of >the people instead of the good of the special interest groups that donate heavily to his >campaigns, was dashed. Obama, once again, showed that he is for sale to the highest bidder ??? >and this time that bidder is Monsanto. Despite a petition that garnered over 250,000 signatures >in just a few days, he signed the Monsanto Protection Act into law, completely ignoring the >wishes of the people. In fact, a press release has not even been issued by the White House to >give the impression that the highly successful petition was considered.

Food Democracy Now has not given up the battle, however:

Quote:

We regret to inform you that late last night President Barack Obama signed H.R. 933, which contained the Monsanto Protection Act into law. President Obama knowingly signed the Monsanto Protection Act over the urgent pleas of more than 250,000 Americans who asked that he use his executive authority to veto it. President Obama failed to live up to his oath to protect the American people and our constitution.

Today we???re calling on President Obama to issue an executive order to call for the mandatory labeling of genetically engineered foods.

Not only is GMO labeling a reasonable and common sense solution to the continued controversy that corporations like Monsanto, DuPont and Dow Chemical have created by subverting our basic democratic rights, but it is a basic right that citizens in 62 other countries around the world already enjoy, including Europe, Russia, China, India, South Africa and Saudi Arabia.

Join Us in demanding mandatory labeling of GMO foods. Now???s the time!

Should Obama be hung for treason? What can the average joe to to stop his food supply from being poisoned? And most importantly, will this affect people who are already purchasing high quality/organic/free-range foods?

http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/obama-betrays-americans-again-with-the-monsanto-protection-act-03272013

http://rt.com/usa/monsanto-congress-silently-slips-830/

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32556)

on March 28, 2013
at 04:09 PM

Folks, there is plenty of bandwidth for posts of this nature over at www.marksdailyapple.com forum. Just sayin'

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on March 28, 2013
at 03:59 PM

I'm so sorry I answered this now. :-/

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on March 28, 2013
at 03:33 PM

Obama was a politician all along, despite some folks' insistence that was the messiah. It's a bitter pill for some.

Ed7403e397077dd1acdbf25c7f6e56ce

(3452)

on March 28, 2013
at 03:32 PM

The USDA,GMOs, and government protection for Monsanto have nothing to do with 'Paleo'?

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on March 28, 2013
at 03:27 PM

Btw, my original post was only meant to be 3/4 serious, let's not throw down here, because we all know who wins when we fight. Nobody, nobody wins because the question gets closed down for being argumentative, let's keep it tactful folks.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on March 28, 2013
at 03:26 PM

I mean I think we all would be on the same page if we just replaced never with probably never. Then we can agree to disagree with what we think someone who none of us have probably ever met would or would not have done.

800e726cb5dff569fd8edf604c3e2793

(1655)

on March 28, 2013
at 03:25 PM

And this is not a political news site.

24c27817ad9ac518946dda4a131737b5

on March 28, 2013
at 03:22 PM

This is important and relevant news.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on March 28, 2013
at 03:14 PM

Ron Paul would **never** have vetoed a bill that supported as a matter of normal course for 2013 the Departments of Defense and Justice. If you think this bill is best describe as "a bill for lobbyists", I suggest you actually at least read the summary of HR 933. The representative who added the Monsanto line item should be publicly castigated - the bill itself had nothing to do with this stupid line item.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32556)

on March 28, 2013
at 03:01 PM

While I am also disappointed about the "MPA", PaleoHacks is not the appropriate forum for this. Per the FAQs: "Avoid asking questions that are overly subjective, argumentative, or require extended discussion. Questions about politics and religion are not allowed on PaleoHacks as they inspire strong, emotional reactions that quickly devolve into insults. This is not a discussion board nor a blog, this is a place for questions that can be answered!"

489706f5480edccc9f01130582f7f296

(233)

on March 28, 2013
at 02:13 PM

The President has to sign it. He can veto. Even if its one line, he can veto the whole bill and tell congress to bring him something worth signing; That's one main service the President is supposed to serve

489706f5480edccc9f01130582f7f296

(233)

on March 28, 2013
at 02:08 PM

Ron Paul would have NEVER done such a thing. That actually amuses me to think about. Paul will look lobbyists in the eye and see straight through them and their agendas. He hates spending and would never increase payment or favoritism to a group that is so reliant on gov't spending. He is the most honest man I've heard out of Congress and was an inspiration to listen to. He even campaigned on restoring the right to Raw Milk (something his son is now working on) which would have been a huge advance in food rights and a shot to the knee of food lobbies

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on March 28, 2013
at 02:00 PM

Lol, I don't think you know too much about RP. He wants to end like, 5 ? Government institutions and said if he was president the main thing he would do is veto bills, lol. I can't say he would have necessarily vetoed This bill, and I can't say congress would then pass it with a 2/3 majority, but it wouldn't be out of the realm of probability.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on March 28, 2013
at 01:56 PM

Damn, If I had known this bill was going to be passed I would've bought calls on Monsanto..

Ed7403e397077dd1acdbf25c7f6e56ce

(3452)

on March 28, 2013
at 01:54 PM

lol... do you realize I said 'at every turn'. I'm not pretending to know anything about these particulars.

5e5ff249c9161b8cd96d7eff6043bc3a

(4713)

on March 28, 2013
at 01:53 PM

Wait, you mean you actually want us to participate in the democratic process instead of just bitching about it in places no one cares about on the internet? Absurd!

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on March 28, 2013
at 01:53 PM

FUD = "Fear, uncertainty, and doubt."

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on March 28, 2013
at 01:52 PM

You realize the House passed this bill, and not the President? See my answer for an explanation with details.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on March 28, 2013
at 01:51 PM

Strongly disagree. Paul would've, as he would have basically "had to" (so to speak). This isn't about the President, this is about the House. See my answer as to why.

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Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on March 28, 2013
at 01:33 PM

Ron Paul never would've done that..

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on March 28, 2013
at 03:27 PM

Btw, my original post was only meant to be 3/4 serious, let's not throw down here, because we all know who wins when we fight. Nobody, nobody wins because the question gets closed down for being argumentative, let's keep it tactful folks.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on March 28, 2013
at 01:51 PM

Strongly disagree. Paul would've, as he would have basically "had to" (so to speak). This isn't about the President, this is about the House. See my answer as to why.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on March 28, 2013
at 03:14 PM

Ron Paul would **never** have vetoed a bill that supported as a matter of normal course for 2013 the Departments of Defense and Justice. If you think this bill is best describe as "a bill for lobbyists", I suggest you actually at least read the summary of HR 933. The representative who added the Monsanto line item should be publicly castigated - the bill itself had nothing to do with this stupid line item.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on March 28, 2013
at 02:00 PM

Lol, I don't think you know too much about RP. He wants to end like, 5 ? Government institutions and said if he was president the main thing he would do is veto bills, lol. I can't say he would have necessarily vetoed This bill, and I can't say congress would then pass it with a 2/3 majority, but it wouldn't be out of the realm of probability.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on March 28, 2013
at 03:26 PM

I mean I think we all would be on the same page if we just replaced never with probably never. Then we can agree to disagree with what we think someone who none of us have probably ever met would or would not have done.

489706f5480edccc9f01130582f7f296

(233)

on March 28, 2013
at 02:08 PM

Ron Paul would have NEVER done such a thing. That actually amuses me to think about. Paul will look lobbyists in the eye and see straight through them and their agendas. He hates spending and would never increase payment or favoritism to a group that is so reliant on gov't spending. He is the most honest man I've heard out of Congress and was an inspiration to listen to. He even campaigned on restoring the right to Raw Milk (something his son is now working on) which would have been a huge advance in food rights and a shot to the knee of food lobbies

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Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on March 28, 2013
at 01:50 PM

H.R. 933 isn't the "Monsanto Protection Act", it's the "Consolidated and Further Continuing Appropriations Act, 2013".

The portion of the bill that is being referred to as the "Monsanto Protection Act" was a line item. The president does not have line item veto powers.

So, even if the president wanted to veto this bill (unknown / unlikely), could you imagine if he vetoed a bill that supported for 2013 the Departments of Agriculture, Commerce, Defense, Homeland Security, Justice, and Veterans Affairs, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, the National Science Foundation, and other related agencies?

So, summarily: no. The president did not betray Americans, even those of us that care most deeply about this line item of the bill. It's simply spreading FUD to call it the "Monsanto Protection Act" to begin with. The president didn't pass this bill - the House of Representatives did.

So, did you call, email, or write your House representative? Did they betray your interests? I wrote mine, and mine didn't.

Find your rep here ('cause I'm going to callously assume you don't know): http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/

... and see how they voted on HR 933 here - http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll089.xml

It's never too late to give them hell.

5e5ff249c9161b8cd96d7eff6043bc3a

(4713)

on March 28, 2013
at 01:53 PM

Wait, you mean you actually want us to participate in the democratic process instead of just bitching about it in places no one cares about on the internet? Absurd!

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on March 28, 2013
at 01:56 PM

Damn, If I had known this bill was going to be passed I would've bought calls on Monsanto..

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on March 28, 2013
at 01:53 PM

FUD = "Fear, uncertainty, and doubt."

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at 04:18 PM

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on March 28, 2013
at 03:52 PM

I love debating such issues but, unfortunately, this forum is not the place for it.

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489706f5480edccc9f01130582f7f296

(233)

on March 28, 2013
at 02:32 PM

Obama absolutely betrayed us. I can't stand the man for a number of reasons, this just adding to the list. I'll stick to food and can still give a laundry list of why he's a traitor.

First off, its the president's power to veto a bill. Someone said he has no power to line item veto...correct. So what? If he wants to veto a whole bill because its got something he stands strongly against, veto the damn thing. That's how separation of powers is supposed to work. But no, politicians aren't civil servants anymore, they're slaves to money and power. He probably succumbed to some sort of political pressure to sign the thing. He could have vetoed and SHOULD have because he EXPLICITLY said in his campaign he wants GMO labeling. Once again, he did not serve the people who elected him. He served his own pocket, ego, power, you name it. I don't care how much else was in the bill, I want the AMERICAN CONSTITUTION to be obeyed in its entirety and serve its purpose as a tool for power for the people by the people.

Aside from sleeping with lobby's of Monsanto, what else has he done? Nothing, in terms of food, that is. His wife is supposed to be leading the fight against childhood obesity. That is the worst campaign execution I have seen. At least Nancy Reagan's war on drugs that has epically failed was implemented. This war on childhood obesity is a joke. Michelle Obama is married to the President of the United States for crying out loud. They should be actively attacking this to help cure the rising generation, but instead? They don't actively campaign against the cause and Obama keeps signing farm bills that subsidize grain. And this generation of kids is anally screwed with rising health care costs. Instead of treating the cause? Obamacare...

If any of you haven't seen Doug McGuff's talk at the 21 Convention on liberty and why the Paleo diet along with healthy exercise is the best way to save yourself from the future, go watch it ASAP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j8qDwR56DA Our health care system has gone to hell and this bill only ensures we're part of it, by law. The best hope we have now is to keep ourselves healthy while buying the cheapest care plan and keeping "out of the belly" as he calls it.

I'll finish my rant and just say that please don't blindly follow our president. If he does something or fails to do something that involves a negative consequence with food rights, in my opinion, its the greatest offense to his constituency because once our freedom to choose food is gone, our life is worthless.

???Take care of your body. It???s the only place you have to live.??? ~Jim Rohn

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5e5ff249c9161b8cd96d7eff6043bc3a

(4713)

on March 28, 2013
at 01:51 PM

Yes it's a shitty precedent and no I'm not defending it, but at least it expires in six months. I think we'll all last that long.

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Ed7403e397077dd1acdbf25c7f6e56ce

on March 28, 2013
at 01:28 PM

As an American who voted for Obama, he has betrayed me at every turn. Wolf in sheep's clothing. The plutocracy's answer to JFK.

Don't expect this thread to last long. Too much conflict potential.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on March 28, 2013
at 03:33 PM

Obama was a politician all along, despite some folks' insistence that was the messiah. It's a bitter pill for some.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on March 28, 2013
at 01:52 PM

You realize the House passed this bill, and not the President? See my answer for an explanation with details.

Ed7403e397077dd1acdbf25c7f6e56ce

(3452)

on March 28, 2013
at 01:54 PM

lol... do you realize I said 'at every turn'. I'm not pretending to know anything about these particulars.

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73a3556e854e83fadaefe6cddb03dc45

on March 28, 2013
at 02:56 PM

WTF does this have to do with Paleo or hacks? Please close this stupid thread mods!

Ed7403e397077dd1acdbf25c7f6e56ce

(3452)

on March 28, 2013
at 03:32 PM

The USDA,GMOs, and government protection for Monsanto have nothing to do with 'Paleo'?

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464e1c66609d402615ae2b3cf72d53fb

(1472)

on March 28, 2013
at 01:51 PM

Since all spending bills come out of the house (yea, I'm an old guy that actually paid attention when they still taught civics) how can this be Obama's fault?

489706f5480edccc9f01130582f7f296

(233)

on March 28, 2013
at 02:13 PM

The President has to sign it. He can veto. Even if its one line, he can veto the whole bill and tell congress to bring him something worth signing; That's one main service the President is supposed to serve

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