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Taking paleo too far?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created July 18, 2013 at 11:49 PM

Wondering how far I should really go to avoid gluten in my toddlers diet at daycare. I have been making so many substitutions I'm stressed and feel like I'm taking it too far. I don't want to buy gluten free products that are made with bad ingredients (and cost a fortune) and making everything from biscuits and cookies to pasta and bread is so time consuming. We eat primal at home with raw milk, grass fed beef, pastured eggs, pastured pork and free range chicken. Also have an organic csa for veggies. I'm a single mom so the stress is really getting to me and you never hear about paleo people admit to allowing any kind of gluten.

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on July 24, 2013
at 05:01 PM

I'm gonna quote you on that later: "The greatest anti-nutrient is stress." Sums up a lot.

77188106a9c27a22ad47d0ef7318de7a

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on July 20, 2013
at 04:42 PM

definitely continue to keep gluten out of her diet. and maybe try to help her father understand to do the same. kids behave so much better without gluten in their diets. best of luck and keep up the good work.

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on July 20, 2013
at 01:36 AM

You put it perfectly. I'm running out of ambition. I know how good she has it but my mental health is taking a hit. I think about it way too much and when things happen at daycare, like they decide to change the menu and i find out when im dropping her off and I brought in the wrong replacement and I'm stuck making the decision of letting her have what everyone else is having or tell them to give her what I've prepared. It's three meals a day that have gluten in them there.

9abd60326f1543460daa7d42adfd053b

on July 20, 2013
at 01:29 AM

I've packed alternative snacks before but I'm so worried that she will have a social problem, having something different then everyone else. All the kids eat the same thing and there were days where everyone eats arrowroot cookies and she has gone without and even though she is only two I see it weigh on her. When I can't replicate something like that I let her have it. It makes me so sad to think of her at the table being the only one without a cookie and not understanding why. She is very observant.

9abd60326f1543460daa7d42adfd053b

on July 20, 2013
at 01:23 AM

Sounds way easier then it actually is but thanks for the suggestion!

9abd60326f1543460daa7d42adfd053b

on July 20, 2013
at 01:21 AM

I've told daycare I suspect a gluten allergy. I do notice she has way more tantrums the more gluten she has but other then that I don't notice a reaction.

9abd60326f1543460daa7d42adfd053b

on July 20, 2013
at 01:15 AM

She still eats gluten with her dad. He knows that I have her on gluten free diet but still occasionally gives her doughnuts and lets her have whatever she wants when she's at someone else's house. That is just one of the reasons I'm trying to be so strict.

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on July 19, 2013
at 12:47 PM

While it's laudable that you're going out of your way to protect your child's diet (and unlike other posters, I don't think it's likely that you'll make your child intolerant to gluten by not exposing them to it right away), don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. As others noted, your best bet might be to cook up a huge meal that the kids can eat and just send a portion of it in each day of the week. If it helps, tell the daycare people they have food ALLERGIES and they'll be extremely careful about what they feed them; no one wants to get sued over that.

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on July 19, 2013
at 05:31 AM

and will probably having?? english?

77188106a9c27a22ad47d0ef7318de7a

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on July 19, 2013
at 05:30 AM

seriously? she is obviously not being ridiculous by trying to prevent gluten exposure in her child. gluten is poison. modern wheat is less than 100 years old. humans are more than a million years old. think about just how neolithic gluten is for humans. please go to any length you see fit to help your child. I wish my mother kept gluten out of my mouth as a kid. I have tons of autoimmune problems thanks to eating so much gluten as a kid.

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on July 19, 2013
at 04:44 AM

I think you're doing great! I can't even imagine pulling all that off as a single parent. I'm married and hope to do as well as you when my baby starts on solids. Sadly, I don't have any words of advice, but have you checked out any of the paleo parenting blogs? You might get some good ideas and support there. Great job, though!

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on July 19, 2013
at 01:36 AM

Does your child have an established sensitivity to gluten, or are you just avoiding it because of the leaky-gut-autoimmune thing?

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on July 20, 2013
at 09:07 AM

Oh my gosh. So you are making a paleo version of every meal the other kids have so she doesn't feel left out. Bless your heart. But, what on earth are you doing to yourself? That is way too much stress. Breathe......

I have seen the most miraculous turnarounds, in just a few days, in real life 65 year olds who had eaten grain their entire lives and were having issues as a result. I've met celiacs not diagnosed until retirement, who make a full recovery in less than a year. So, some preschool gluten exposure is unlikely to permanently affect her, at least not in ways that she wouldn't be able to recover from.

Your daughter will be fine. She comes from a long line of social and omnivorous beings. From a holistic mental health/emotional health/physical health whole person perspective, eating the same thing as the kid next to her, and feeling like an equal member of the pack, might be more important than eating something like it without gluten. If she has a serious sensitivity or allergy that would be a reason to put physical health ahead of social health, but it sounds like she might just be a titch more moody.

I know when custody issues are at hand, there is a deep need to feel like the better parent, who makes all the right decisions and follows through with what is best. It might be important to ask yourself why you are so motivated (beyond you obvious love for your child) to do this. Is it really for her, or to prove something?

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on July 19, 2013
at 12:08 AM

I would say you're doing great... If you don't want your kid to eat gluten or grain in general then go as far as you have to to make that happen. Most parents especially single parents tend to take the simple, easy, and easly microwavable option over the Paleo approach. If you run out of ambition just remember that you are doing a great thing for your kid.

9abd60326f1543460daa7d42adfd053b

on July 20, 2013
at 01:36 AM

You put it perfectly. I'm running out of ambition. I know how good she has it but my mental health is taking a hit. I think about it way too much and when things happen at daycare, like they decide to change the menu and i find out when im dropping her off and I brought in the wrong replacement and I'm stuck making the decision of letting her have what everyone else is having or tell them to give her what I've prepared. It's three meals a day that have gluten in them there.

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on July 24, 2013
at 01:51 PM

Please take the following advice knowing that I am totally sold on the paleo thing. Gluten is bad. Fat-burning humans are better than glucose-burning humans (and yes, I know we all burn both, in the end). I get it, and buy it. I'm here, after all!

That all said, in my humble opinion the greatest anti-nutrient is stress. I constantly look for ways to make life as smooth as possible. The fitter I become nutritionally, the easier this is: I have more energy, a more stable mood, I become more tolerant when things don't happen the way I want them to, etc.

So if you've made the choice to feed the kiddo paleo, great. But rather than stress out over whether a two year old feels social awkwardness because she eats different things than the other kids, teach her instead to not stress about it. And try not to stress about it yourself ;-)

Easier said than done, of course, and how not to stress about things is its own thread. Or book. Or entire moral system! But down that path, I think, lies long-term sustainable and happy health. Even if it means a little gluten sneaks into the diet every once in a while.

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(389)

on July 24, 2013
at 05:01 PM

I'm gonna quote you on that later: "The greatest anti-nutrient is stress." Sums up a lot.

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on July 20, 2013
at 08:08 PM

What are you currently doing? Making a packed lunch for her with "gluten free" baked goods?

If so, I don't see the need. Tell the nursery she has celiac and send her off with a packed lunch that similar to what she eats at home - e.g. some chopped fruit, carrot and cucumber sticks, some milk/yoghurt and a chopped boiled egg or chopped meat. When she's older she can take a chicken drumstick or two

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on July 19, 2013
at 03:50 AM

Is your child celiac? If not you're being ridiculous and will probably having your children develop food sensitivities due to their overly strict diet

9abd60326f1543460daa7d42adfd053b

on July 20, 2013
at 01:15 AM

She still eats gluten with her dad. He knows that I have her on gluten free diet but still occasionally gives her doughnuts and lets her have whatever she wants when she's at someone else's house. That is just one of the reasons I'm trying to be so strict.

77188106a9c27a22ad47d0ef7318de7a

(922)

on July 20, 2013
at 04:42 PM

definitely continue to keep gluten out of her diet. and maybe try to help her father understand to do the same. kids behave so much better without gluten in their diets. best of luck and keep up the good work.

77188106a9c27a22ad47d0ef7318de7a

(922)

on July 19, 2013
at 05:31 AM

and will probably having?? english?

77188106a9c27a22ad47d0ef7318de7a

(922)

on July 19, 2013
at 05:30 AM

seriously? she is obviously not being ridiculous by trying to prevent gluten exposure in her child. gluten is poison. modern wheat is less than 100 years old. humans are more than a million years old. think about just how neolithic gluten is for humans. please go to any length you see fit to help your child. I wish my mother kept gluten out of my mouth as a kid. I have tons of autoimmune problems thanks to eating so much gluten as a kid.

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on July 19, 2013
at 01:06 AM

How about precooking food for your family, let's say, on a sunday and then freeze everything and make little snackpacks for the kids? This is a great idea to save time!

9abd60326f1543460daa7d42adfd053b

on July 20, 2013
at 01:23 AM

Sounds way easier then it actually is but thanks for the suggestion!

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on July 19, 2013
at 12:19 AM

can you pack your kid snacks? we always had a little lunchbox to take with us to daycare (my sister and I). not really that difficult to pack. they have refrigerators i'm sure.

9abd60326f1543460daa7d42adfd053b

on July 20, 2013
at 01:29 AM

I've packed alternative snacks before but I'm so worried that she will have a social problem, having something different then everyone else. All the kids eat the same thing and there were days where everyone eats arrowroot cookies and she has gone without and even though she is only two I see it weigh on her. When I can't replicate something like that I let her have it. It makes me so sad to think of her at the table being the only one without a cookie and not understanding why. She is very observant.

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