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Soaking and Fermenting Grains

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created January 09, 2011 at 4:05 PM

Hi, Sorry if this has been asked here, I searched, I really did. :)

I came to a Paleo-style of living after learning about nutrition through the Weston A. Price Foundation way of things. I see many similarities, one major exception of course being grains.

While I don't eat them anyway, I really do want to understand why fermenting/soaking/sprouting grains doesn't take the whole problem away. I know that soaking reduces lectin content, and phytic acid content. So why are they still shunned?

Not running back to them, just want to understand. Thanks!

3558d8feb56bc681144f87e67140f885

on January 10, 2011
at 07:39 PM

Just want to thank everyone for these great answers! I really appreciate it!

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on January 09, 2011
at 09:05 PM

The reason I used to do it was taste--a bowl of spicy lentils over white rice with lots of chile and curry powder...I can't renounce the fact that this used to be a very enjoyable dish for me.

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on January 09, 2011
at 04:37 PM

im from a five year WAP background before starting paleo one year ago. I usually just think in terms of Harris: why eat something less than optimal? given that you're in the US with food options of course. Also, even through all those WAP years of eating only properly treated grains and nuts, they never sat as well. I still feel kind of...bloated (though I still don't really fully understand the meaning of this term) when i eat grains, even properly treated. Simply less than optimal food. Now that i know that, i eat veg and meat.

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on January 09, 2011
at 04:30 PM

Soaking and sprouting will neutralize some of the toxins, but not all. Also, grains are very nutrient poor and there is no good (nutritional) reason to include them in your diet.

I liked this article by Kurt Harris on the topic: http://www.paleonu.com/panu-weblog/2009/12/28/avoid-poison-or-neutralize-it.html

3558d8feb56bc681144f87e67140f885

on January 10, 2011
at 07:39 PM

Just want to thank everyone for these great answers! I really appreciate it!

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on January 09, 2011
at 04:37 PM

im from a five year WAP background before starting paleo one year ago. I usually just think in terms of Harris: why eat something less than optimal? given that you're in the US with food options of course. Also, even through all those WAP years of eating only properly treated grains and nuts, they never sat as well. I still feel kind of...bloated (though I still don't really fully understand the meaning of this term) when i eat grains, even properly treated. Simply less than optimal food. Now that i know that, i eat veg and meat.

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on January 09, 2011
at 05:02 PM

Even after partial removal of the poisons

  1. They still individually have incomplete proteins
  2. The proteins come with a substantial carbohydrate load
  3. Most grains come post process - hulled/polished/split etc.
  4. Some have substantial Gluten
  5. Require much higher effort to prepare to make edible than other foods like vegetables/meat/fruit/dairy and offer little in return.

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on January 09, 2011
at 10:34 PM

I think it's just that they are not nutritionally important or relevant to most of our evolutionary history.

Is that a reason to avoid them completely? That's a personal choice. You can still lower your grain consumption and still be close to paleo ideas. Maybe you won't really feel as paleo as the 100% but the important thing is, you will be creating a new alternative diet for you.

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on January 09, 2011
at 05:32 PM

The way I see it is......why would people take so much time to prepare a food that hardly compares in micronutrients to meat in the first place. With meat all you have to do is cook it, and you don't even have to do that! Thats just me though....I'm about simplicity, which coincidently, is how our ancestors would have behaved anyway.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on January 09, 2011
at 09:05 PM

The reason I used to do it was taste--a bowl of spicy lentils over white rice with lots of chile and curry powder...I can't renounce the fact that this used to be a very enjoyable dish for me.

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