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Is gluten universally bad for everyone and who understands celiac test numbers?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created June 01, 2012 at 6:52 AM

Hi, I'm new but reading recent discussions on whether gluten really is the ultimate bad guy I am undecided about how important it is to completely eliminate it as I currently eat a bit of sourdough bread with eggs in the morning (eggs alone make me nauseous). I had a celiac test which came back at 1.5 but I had eaten no gluten for about 5 days and only tiny amounts prior to that. Mean anything? The doctor said you had to score 10 to be worried. I am in the UK so results may be different in the US. I've done a 30-day gluten challenge and noticed no difference with or without but don't want to be doing myself harm unknowingly - I have mild IBS-C, osteoporosis in my spine (am only late 30s but my mother has it, I was anorexic and D-deficient for years) and a weird raised parathyroid hormone level. Not sure what's going on or if gluten could be contributing - any experience or advice welcome!

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on June 01, 2012
at 07:00 PM

@Ben - your elimination was improved because gluten cannot be digested. Your body is working hard to eliminate poison.

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on June 01, 2012
at 01:52 PM

Oh, and Matt, you are quite right I don't think the osteoporosis has much to do with gluten, rather the long-term vit D deficiency and malnourished teenage years.

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on June 01, 2012
at 01:51 PM

Thanks, you are right that my digestive system is not working properly and gluten probably contributes to that but when I gave it up for a month and then re-introduced it, if anything I felt better but why? The opiate properties of wheat, 30 days not long enough to break an 'addiction'? The increased carbs as VLC makes me feel dreadful? Maybe, as another commenter suggested a 90-day trial is more telling. Its a bit overwhelming as the IBS could be due to small amounts of dairy or caffeine in the tea I drink (no coffee) but a full paleo detox sparks all those anorexic tendencies again!

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on June 01, 2012
at 12:56 PM

I know some claim links between gluten and osteoporosis, but given your malnourished past, it would be hard to place all the blame on gluten.

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on June 01, 2012
at 12:21 PM

I think this is a good sensible response.

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on June 01, 2012
at 12:20 PM

I can eat gluten with no ill effects. I still avoid wheat but I eat other grains that people say have gluten or something related like rye, oats, and spelt. I have no problems whatsoever. In fact, after years of zero grains and eating lots of vegetables like cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower, and green leafies I find my elimination much improved. I think it's the type of fiber but I don't know much.

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on June 01, 2012
at 11:25 AM

Not all people who are intolerant to gluten test postive, thats the bad thing about it. Like Kelly said the ultimate test is adding it back in after nothing with gluten for 90 days. Good Luck

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on June 01, 2012
at 10:51 AM

my opinion, but I included thought my problem was not gluten related in any way until I took it out and then 90 days later was exposed to it and boy did I find out my tolerance level (and my medical tests were negative). The ultimate test seems to be adding it back into your diet.

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F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on June 01, 2012
at 11:50 AM

I am gluten intolerant, yet all my tests came back negative. I have recently had an endoscopy (?) done and I was told that my villi is fine and it is grew back.

The worst part about gluten that most people (like me) did not know what are the symptoms associated with gluten intolerance.

The problem is gluten intolerance is different for everyone because it is your body's immune system's individual response to poison. It mimics so many other diseases, you don't really know which one is which.

MOST PEOPLE HAVE ONLY SEVERAL SYMPTOMS AND THEY ARE DIFFERENT FOR EVERYBODY.

I am just going to list some of 300 symptoms associated with gluten intolerance.

Weight loss

weight gain

Nutritional deficiencies due to malabsorbtion e.g. low iron levels

Gastro-intestinal problems (bloating, pain, gas, constipation, diarrhea)

Fat in the stools (due to poor digestion)

Aching joints

Depression

Eczema

Head aches

Exhaustion

Irritability and behavioural changes

Infertility, irregular menstrual cycle and miscarriage

Cramps, tingling and numbness

Slow infant and child growth

Decline in dental health

SOURCE: http://glutenfreenetwork.com/faqs/symptoms-treatments/gluten-intolerance-symptoms-how-do-you-know-if-gluten-is-making-you-sick/

Gluten intolerance is connected to the following diseases:

Iron deficiency/ anemia

Infertility

Depression

Osteoporosis or osteopenia

Type 1 diabetes

Thyroid disease

Sjogren???s disease

Juvenile idiopathic arthritis

Irritable bowel syndrome

Intestinal cancer

Peripheral neuropathy

Down Syndrome

Turner Syndrome

Williams Syndrome

Dermatitis herpetiformis

SOURCE: http://www.celiaccentral.org/disease-symptoms-checklist/

and more:

Abdominal pain and distension

Acid reflux

Bloating

Constipation

Diarrhea

Gas and flatulence

Greasy, foul-smelling, floating stools

Nausea

Vomiting

Weight loss or weight gain

Nongastrointestinal symptoms: Interestingly, although gluten sensitivity and celiac disease affect the gut, most people???s symptoms are not gastrointestinal in nature. This partial list includes just some of the more than 250 symptoms not centered in the digestive tract.

Fatigue and weakness (due to iron-deficiency anemia)

Vitamin and/or mineral deficiencies

Headaches (including migraines)

Joint/bone pain

Depression, irritability, listlessness, and mood disorders

???Fuzzy brain??? or an inability to concentrate

Infertility

Abnormal menstrual cycles

Dental enamel deficiencies and irregularities

Seizures

Clumsiness (ataxia)

Nerve damage (peripheral neuropathy)

Respiratory problems

Canker sores (apthus ulcers)

Lactose intolerance

Eczema/psoriasis

Rosacea (a skin disorder)

Acne

Hashimoto???s disease,

Sj??gren???s syndrome

lupus erythematosus

other autoimmune disorders

Early onset osteoporosis

Hair loss (alopecia)

Bruising easily

Low blood sugar (hypoglycemia)

Muscle cramping

Nosebleeds

Swelling and inflammation

Night blindness

SOURCE: http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/symptoms-of-gluten-sensitivity-and-celiac-disease.html

The worst part is that some people have NO SYMPTOMS at all. Yet the damage is being done.

If not addressed, gluten intolerance has been found to contribute to diabetes, bowel cancer, anemia and osteoporosis among many many other diseases.

There is a wide population of 'gluten-reactants' in Europe (EC): at least 1 million cases of total intolerance to gluten - an estimated similar amount of 'gluten sensitive' people - 10-15 times more 'carriers' of the risk of becoming gluten intolerant.

SOURCE: http://www.celiac.com/articles/76/1/Why-So-Many-Intolerant-To-Gluten----by-Luigi-Greco-DCH-MScMCH-MD-Department-of-Pediatrics-University-of-Naples-06301995/Page1.html

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on June 01, 2012
at 11:45 AM

The paleo line is that gluten is universally bad. And while I'm not one that buys into that 100%, you do have an abnormal digestive system, as evidenced by your IBS-C. I would think going 100% gluten-free would be a good idea in your case. If everything normalizes after that, you could try reintroducing it, but I suspect that you have permanent damage to your gut and won't be able to successfully reintroduce it.

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on June 01, 2012
at 12:56 PM

I know some claim links between gluten and osteoporosis, but given your malnourished past, it would be hard to place all the blame on gluten.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on June 01, 2012
at 12:21 PM

I think this is a good sensible response.

F92a0a13e601a6d302e44a4d4e0e3b91

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on June 01, 2012
at 01:52 PM

Oh, and Matt, you are quite right I don't think the osteoporosis has much to do with gluten, rather the long-term vit D deficiency and malnourished teenage years.

F92a0a13e601a6d302e44a4d4e0e3b91

(367)

on June 01, 2012
at 01:51 PM

Thanks, you are right that my digestive system is not working properly and gluten probably contributes to that but when I gave it up for a month and then re-introduced it, if anything I felt better but why? The opiate properties of wheat, 30 days not long enough to break an 'addiction'? The increased carbs as VLC makes me feel dreadful? Maybe, as another commenter suggested a 90-day trial is more telling. Its a bit overwhelming as the IBS could be due to small amounts of dairy or caffeine in the tea I drink (no coffee) but a full paleo detox sparks all those anorexic tendencies again!

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on June 01, 2012
at 06:59 AM

Gluten has absolutely been connected to IBS and osteoporosis.

Can you be more specific about the test?

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on June 01, 2012
at 07:39 AM

There are many other nasties other than Gluten in Wheat! Grab hold of a copy of Wheat Belly and you will never eat wheat again :)

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F92a0a13e601a6d302e44a4d4e0e3b91

on June 01, 2012
at 07:38 AM

I Sorry but I don't have a printout, but I presume it was for antibodies of some sort, I know osteoporosis is linked to celiac through malabsorption issues but I am obviously absorbing iron as my level was top of the range! My instinct is gluten may be an issue for me, but I would be so much more motivated not to cheat if I knew for sure.

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