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hives and nausea on the paleo diet

Answered on November 12, 2014
Created December 12, 2010 at 4:36 PM

I have been following paleo eating for three weeks. I am female, 5' 7", and 120 pounds. I am fairly active (running, weights). I have eaten no grains, legumes, or sugars (I have eaten a little dairy incidentally, and a few nuts), and I have kept my carbohydrates under 30 percent of my calories, usually under 100 grams/day, my protein at around 25-30 percent of my calories, and my fat at around 30-50 percent of my calories. I eat meat and vegetables of all sorts, and plenty of fish, and some fruit. In that three week time I have felt consistently nauseous, peaking about 3 hours after eating. I am not overeating (based on calorie counts and satiety). I have also had 3 bouts of extreme hives that follow the nausea. I have never had hives before and have no food allergies (I was tested); also, the hives occurred after different sets of foods (no overlap). The nausea has occurred after all sorts of foods. I wonder if anyone can tell me whether this is some normal period of adjustment. Anyone else been through hives?

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on February 12, 2011
at 12:53 PM

Thanks for letting us know how things turned out. Kudos to you for persevering long enough to realize that the problem would resolve on its own.

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on December 17, 2010
at 04:35 AM

an herbalist associate of mine has suggested that hives are liver related, and may be due to food intolerance, especially in someone of normal weight. Your nausea might be more directly related to the hives than a separate occurrence. I highly recommend a food diary for the next week or two, being extra diligent to record EVERYTHING you ingest, including what you put on your skin. If you can tolerate it, it might be worth trying a light antihistamine to see if you get any relief. Your body may well be detoxing after your nutrition switch, but your symptoms might point to intolerance.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on December 16, 2010
at 02:30 PM

I'll do that. I've been adding slightly more carbohydrate (some potatoes, some sweet potatoes, more fruit) and it seems to be helping.

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on December 15, 2010
at 07:15 PM

You might also try backing off the fat for a day or too and see if it helps.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on December 15, 2010
at 03:24 PM

Thanks for your answer. This makes me think that I should wait this out and see if it improves. It's tough, with nausea, but I'll try.

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on December 15, 2010
at 03:22 PM

Thanks for your answer. I decided to try this type of diet because I read a lot about food science and nutrition, the scientific logic and research behind paleo-style eating sounded plausible to me, and I thought it might help to give me better health and energy. Low weight isn't always a sign of the best health.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on December 15, 2010
at 03:18 PM

Thanks for your answer. I work out before breakfast, and don't eat anything before my workout. I'm not pregnant. No other big changes, and no new foods--but the concentration of fat and protein vs. carbs is definitely higher now.

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on December 13, 2010
at 08:43 PM

not necessarily. This is a very common misconception. True, she is not eating gluten, but she is not GLUTEN-FREE. There is a lot more to being gluten free than just not eating the stuff. She could be reacting to trace gluten in her old cutting boards or colander, for example. Fillers in a supplement. It is also not uncommon for a celiac new to the gluten free diet to have some odd, random reactions while their digestive system heals. Basic info here, but celiac.com is also a good resource. http://celiacdisease.about.com/od/theglutenfreediet/tp/GlutenFreeKitchenItems.htm

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on December 13, 2010
at 04:22 AM

Hmm, if celiac, you'd think she would feel better on paleo, not get hives on paleo.

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on December 13, 2010
at 04:08 AM

And what sort of food allergy tests did you have?

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on February 12, 2011
at 12:34 PM

This is a follow-up to my own earlier question. My nausea and hives diminished and disappeared with time and I'm pretty sure that the nausea and hives were both caused by gluten withdrawal. I have tested positive for gluten sensitivity and have heard anecdotal evidence that those with gluten problems, when they first eliminate gluten, can feel worse before they feel better. This has been the case for me. I can't find any medical evidence or tests about gluten withdrawal, but I would urge those who have symptoms similar to mine to consider the possibility. Thanks.

82166cc32b6cf26de33b69f58fb583b1

on February 12, 2011
at 12:53 PM

Thanks for letting us know how things turned out. Kudos to you for persevering long enough to realize that the problem would resolve on its own.

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on December 12, 2010
at 05:31 PM

It sounds to me that your digestive track does not have enough acid to properly digest the paleo food you have switched to. One remedy is to put three tablespoons of apple cider vinegar ACV in 12 oz of water to acidify your gut to more easily digest food. Drink slowly. Too fast it burns going down.

Also, Dr Art Ayers at http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.com/ talks a lot about dysbiosis of the gut as being the cause of many of our problems. He does recommend using inulin products (jicama, jerusalem artichokes, artichokes, chicory root, burcock root & pectin) which are fibrous that ferment in the gut which begins the process of healing the gut and restoring the gut flora. I mix the chicory root, burdock root powder and pectin in my greek yogurt. Have been for a year and have had no upsets since. Roam around his site in all the past postings.

From WebMD: Hives and angioedema form when, in response to histamine, blood plasma leaks out of small blood vessels in the skin. Histamine is a chemical released from specialized cells along the skin's blood vessels. The most common foods that cause hives are nuts, chocolate, fish, tomatoes, eggs, fresh berries, and milk. Fresh foods cause hives more often than cooked foods. Certain food additives and preservatives may also be to blame. Also non steroidal pain relievers like aspririn, ibuprophin can cause hives.

You need to do an elimination diet and figure out what food(s) is/are causing the hives.

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on December 12, 2010
at 05:16 PM

This type of eating switches the body to using energy from fat rather than the easy source of carbs. Toxins are stored in body fat and with a release of toxins/fat you could be having a "detox" reaction. I would suggest eating more carbs, adding sweet potato, more veggies and that will slow down the reaction. Also you sound thin to begin with, curious to know why you switched to Paleo?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on December 15, 2010
at 03:22 PM

Thanks for your answer. I decided to try this type of diet because I read a lot about food science and nutrition, the scientific logic and research behind paleo-style eating sounded plausible to me, and I thought it might help to give me better health and energy. Low weight isn't always a sign of the best health.

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on November 12, 2014
at 02:00 AM

Since going paleo I have had four serious hives/allergic reactions to 4 different foods that never bothered me before: tomatoes, walnuts, strawberries and white potato.  I am searching the internet to see if any one knows why these reactions would happen now... after eating clean for 90 days.

Glad to see I am not the only one asking these questions.  I feel better on the Paleo then I have felt in years so it is worth keeping to it and finding answers.

Thank you

Teena 

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on February 22, 2012
at 12:30 PM

I found out it was the niacin I was taking which is a common reaction. I'm not sure if you are taking b3/niacin but it did the same for me. I broke out in hives and experienced a flushing through my skin which burned. I only get nausea when I don't snack. I eat nuts, fruits, and veggies through the day but when I forget I start to feel a little sick. I am on day 20.

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on February 22, 2012
at 06:35 AM

HI I am Stephanie, from Switzerland and turned to paleo for 3 weeks now. I hit my second extreme hive last night. The first occured 2 days ago without any reasons. I was also wondering if the change of food, well meaning cutting all gluten food could be the reason. Can't find anything on the net about it. But it is interesting to know I am not the only one ! Did you finally changed something ? When has it stopped ?? Have you tried this apple vinegar thing ?? Did it help ? Thank you in advance for your reply

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on December 13, 2010
at 04:40 PM

Have you dramatically increased your fat intake? If so that could explain the nausea. If you have been low fat for a long time you might not have enough digestive enzymes to really deal with the fat load, that would also seem to fit the timing of the attacks...

I don't know if it is related, but my nasal allergies got worse in the first two months of paleo. It seems like my immune system suddenly had more resources to throw at these reactions. It got better for me with the readdition of fermented foods. Of course you not having a positive allergy test does argue against this issue, but I thought I would toss it out these as my only explanation for the hives.

1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

(6235)

on December 15, 2010
at 07:15 PM

You might also try backing off the fat for a day or too and see if it helps.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on December 15, 2010
at 03:24 PM

Thanks for your answer. This makes me think that I should wait this out and see if it improves. It's tough, with nausea, but I'll try.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on December 16, 2010
at 02:30 PM

I'll do that. I've been adding slightly more carbohydrate (some potatoes, some sweet potatoes, more fruit) and it seems to be helping.

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13c5a9f1678d75b93f269cdcf69f14d5

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on December 13, 2010
at 03:55 AM

Am i the only person who thinks this woman should test for celiac?

Are you taking any supplements? Are there any autoimmune diseases in your family?

13c5a9f1678d75b93f269cdcf69f14d5

(2339)

on December 13, 2010
at 08:43 PM

not necessarily. This is a very common misconception. True, she is not eating gluten, but she is not GLUTEN-FREE. There is a lot more to being gluten free than just not eating the stuff. She could be reacting to trace gluten in her old cutting boards or colander, for example. Fillers in a supplement. It is also not uncommon for a celiac new to the gluten free diet to have some odd, random reactions while their digestive system heals. Basic info here, but celiac.com is also a good resource. http://celiacdisease.about.com/od/theglutenfreediet/tp/GlutenFreeKitchenItems.htm

13c5a9f1678d75b93f269cdcf69f14d5

(2339)

on December 13, 2010
at 04:08 AM

And what sort of food allergy tests did you have?

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on December 13, 2010
at 04:22 AM

Hmm, if celiac, you'd think she would feel better on paleo, not get hives on paleo.

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2b8c327d1296a96ad64cdadc7dffa72d

on December 12, 2010
at 05:09 PM

Are there foods you are eating now that you didn't eat before changing your plan? How close to a workout are you eating? Any other changes in your life? Could you be pregnant?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on December 15, 2010
at 03:18 PM

Thanks for your answer. I work out before breakfast, and don't eat anything before my workout. I'm not pregnant. No other big changes, and no new foods--but the concentration of fat and protein vs. carbs is definitely higher now.

2b8c327d1296a96ad64cdadc7dffa72d

on December 17, 2010
at 04:35 AM

an herbalist associate of mine has suggested that hives are liver related, and may be due to food intolerance, especially in someone of normal weight. Your nausea might be more directly related to the hives than a separate occurrence. I highly recommend a food diary for the next week or two, being extra diligent to record EVERYTHING you ingest, including what you put on your skin. If you can tolerate it, it might be worth trying a light antihistamine to see if you get any relief. Your body may well be detoxing after your nutrition switch, but your symptoms might point to intolerance.

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