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did you develop gluten sensitivity after going paleo?

Commented on February 18, 2015
Created August 01, 2011 at 2:02 PM

I know variations of this question have been asked before.. I am just dumbfounded. I was never the type to have any issues with grains/gluten. This is not one of those "well you just didn't realize you felt like crap all the time" situations, I never felt like I do now- except when I'm pregnant in the 1st trimester and nauseous all the time.

Because of finances- we've kinda gone off our paleo ways lately. I have been fine with the pea soups, quinoa, and oatmeal. Last night we had regular ol' spaghetti noodles- SUPER nauseous. I've also had bread a few times and felt very nauseous afterwards.

I am noticing the nausea connected to gluten. It's just so weird as I was never like this, even when I first went paleo and cheated quite often before going hardcore.

Now, there is the possibility there isn't a connection and I actually am pregnant, but doubtful as we are perfect use condom users and I just had a baby and haven't started cycling yet (yes I know it's possible to get preggo on that first egg, but still while using condoms? extremely rare). I'm taking a test today just to rule that out.

I'll keep a food journal but so far it really seems like whenever I eat gluten I'm nauseous... and possibly corn too as I was nauseous the other night after popcorn (freshly made in my kitchen with coconut oil and sea salt, not nasty movie popcorn lol).. and yesterday morning after corn tortillas I was super nauseous.

So anyone like me? Totally fine with non-paleo foods before going paleo.. then develop a sensitivity. Again, I did NOT feel like crap all the time before going paleo.. I went paleo to keep a healthy weight and to see if it helped with depression/anxiety.. I didn't have any tummy issues with grains before. Weird.

ETA: ok just so y'all know, the tight budget is a temporary thing, I have 6 kids.. our grocery bill used to be 250 a week, sometimes more... we're down to 100 a week and that includes things like toilet paper, hygiene items, etc (I do make as much homemade stuff as possible)... it's just temporary.. I am not asking how to eat paleo on a budget.. just about this odd phenomena.. in about a month or so we will be back to eating good paleo foods again! I just can't buy CAFO meat, sorry I cannot.. if I can't afford it- I eat another protein source.

38339c798846eb877778c8998317536d

on February 18, 2015
at 08:25 PM

See the lady on food stamps for comments.

3122bc81fc8d2765779d9aa5fd634307

on February 18, 2015
at 05:21 AM

So dying to know where you are at with this? I went paleo for a little over a month. It was my birthday yesterday and I ate two burgers during the day - with bun. After each one I felt headachy and a little sick. I really feel I'd never had sensitivity to gluten before. I'm hoping if I decide to go back to it my body will readjust? I'm having trouble finding others with similar experience

3122bc81fc8d2765779d9aa5fd634307

on February 18, 2015
at 05:21 AM

So dying to know where you are at with this? I went paleo for a little over a month. It was my birthday yesterday and I ate two burgers during the day - with bun. After each one I felt headachy and a little sick. I really feel I'd never had sensitivity to gluten before. I'm hoping if I decide to go back to it my body will readjust? I'm having trouble finding others with similar experience

205fe0a948274c4dbaa33eb958923529

(75)

on August 02, 2011
at 11:57 AM

Avoid the fancy shops and get to the markets, avoid supermarket butchers and get to the ones in the poor areas. I spent £20 on 12 Chicken breasts in a Halal free-range butchers this weekend, these were FULL breasts and not the heavily trimmed and seperated crap you see in supermarkets. The same amount of chicken in a supermarket would cost me about £35 and wouldnt be free range. Amazing how much you can save buying from World food type stores, they stock everything you'd ever need for Paleo and usually beat supermarkets hands down price wise. Also avoid 6 kids :) :)

Fac1af832cc3c6a20059c41411fd0f6b

(1548)

on August 02, 2011
at 04:57 AM

My issues are better now. Basically I eat meat, cheese, heavy cream, some veggies and some fruit. If I stray beyond a handful of nuts, corn, etc, I am feeling it later on. Gluten sensitivity runs in my family and I am type II diabetic so I avoid starchy stuff and will never again touch gluten. I am off my meds and controlling it with diet for now.

Fac1af832cc3c6a20059c41411fd0f6b

(1548)

on August 02, 2011
at 04:46 AM

Thinking back on this, I think smoking would have made a better analogy.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on August 01, 2011
at 08:53 PM

MICKEY: Ya, I have wondered if the migraines I had growing up and a bit of a pot belly (on a super skinny kid) were from some of these issue. Are your issues all better now? Was that list in your comment what helped you?

Fac1af832cc3c6a20059c41411fd0f6b

(1548)

on August 01, 2011
at 08:27 PM

Similar for me. I just emliminated the stuff that hurt my gut. Seeds hulls, tons of fiber, corn, beans, certain nuts etc all feel like a brillo pad in my abdomen. If someone were to punch your shoulder everyday, eventually you would not feel the pain, but that does not mean that you are not being hurt. I look back at my childhood and remember the nights racked with pain due to bellyaches and not knowing what is going on and being hurt and scared. Those were just the first times I had been punched in the shoulder. I didn't feel daily discomfort until my 30's.

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on August 01, 2011
at 04:14 PM

i feel for you - my sis had to do the same for her family of 5 for awhile. she would make really hearty stews, meatballs, meatloaf, huge chopped salads, pulled pork as she could go for inexpensive cuts that low and slow cooking would make tasty. anything that could multi-task and stretch. take care and good luck!

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on August 01, 2011
at 03:52 PM

Have you been making stews at all? They definitely stretch and you can get away with cheaper tougher cuts of meat as they will soften nicely as everything cooks low and slow. And with summer full upon us so many diff. varieties you can put together with all the veg available. Good luck and take care!

215d3126214343a5760316f195a06b97

on August 01, 2011
at 03:36 PM

yes thanks, we are adding more tubers.. put them in the pea soups. I am trying to figure out ways to keep our meals as paleo as possible on 100 a week for a family of 8 (6 kids, 2 adults).. good thing is its only temporary, in about another month or so things will be more comfortable.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on August 01, 2011
at 03:36 PM

:D....so many variables is why holistic health is both harder and more important at the same time. No cell, organ or system works in a vacuum. But, I think you've hit on something in learning this just like Jessica said in the form of elimination diet.

215d3126214343a5760316f195a06b97

on August 01, 2011
at 03:34 PM

and if you've never been to a food pantry.. it's pretty much ALL nonpaleo foods lol. The bread we had was given to us.. the quinoa I have is leftover from when I was vegan a year and a half ago (amazingly hadn't expired), same with the rice we have.

215d3126214343a5760316f195a06b97

on August 01, 2011
at 03:33 PM

I know dude, believe me, I know. But we are seriously down to 100 dollars a week for a family of 8 (6 kids 2 adults). It's ONLY temporary.. so we're just doing what we can to get by until things are comfortable again in about another month or so. Don't judge me lol

215d3126214343a5760316f195a06b97

on August 01, 2011
at 03:32 PM

My thing is I felt that MAYBE gluten was the cause of my depression/anxiety issues... but physically well in my tummy- I never felt nauseous or upset stomach or anything like that. Now suddenly I'm nauseous, it's weird. So the nausea may be the signal that it will mess up my head again? Cause I can say I haven't had depression issues much lately- but I did also make major life changes that have helped. Arrggghhh so many variables! lol

8d454fc50d6d58643d6f8b0d1e7ea8ea

(2830)

on August 01, 2011
at 03:18 PM

This is exactly what elimination diets claim to do - allow the immune system to regain its sensitivity to problem foods.

B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

(10255)

on August 01, 2011
at 03:17 PM

and that was going to be my lunch today! i am a fellow PB addict; love it on pumpernickel bread *sigh*

215d3126214343a5760316f195a06b97

on August 01, 2011
at 02:52 PM

So interesting! Y'know whats weird.. the first time I ate peanut butter again after being paleo for awhile, my tongue felt tingly.. I don't think I ever had that before and I was a PB addict! This is all so crazy.. I am in denial over here lol.. not the peanut butter too Nooooo!

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3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on August 01, 2011
at 02:50 PM

I would mark this up to something you eluded to it not being, you know that you always felt like crap on gluten. OK maybe you didnt "feel" like crap, but they were detrimental to your system. You kept doing it anyway and eventually, like with many things, your body/brain reduced its signals letting you know of the damage since you were ignoring them anyway. Once given a break and time to become sensitive again there you are...

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on August 01, 2011
at 03:36 PM

:D....so many variables is why holistic health is both harder and more important at the same time. No cell, organ or system works in a vacuum. But, I think you've hit on something in learning this just like Jessica said in the form of elimination diet.

8d454fc50d6d58643d6f8b0d1e7ea8ea

(2830)

on August 01, 2011
at 03:18 PM

This is exactly what elimination diets claim to do - allow the immune system to regain its sensitivity to problem foods.

215d3126214343a5760316f195a06b97

on August 01, 2011
at 03:32 PM

My thing is I felt that MAYBE gluten was the cause of my depression/anxiety issues... but physically well in my tummy- I never felt nauseous or upset stomach or anything like that. Now suddenly I'm nauseous, it's weird. So the nausea may be the signal that it will mess up my head again? Cause I can say I haven't had depression issues much lately- but I did also make major life changes that have helped. Arrggghhh so many variables! lol

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Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on August 01, 2011
at 03:19 PM

May I ask why you haven't used tubers, both regular potato and sweet, to enhance your meals? They definitely will stretch a meal and are very inexpensive - I think Trader Joe's has organic sweet potatoes for around $2.50 and you get 8 in the bag, and they have many other bagged potato options for a good price. Any farmer's market can hook you up as well. Cauliflower is cheap too and you can chop it up finely to mimic rice, steam and mash like mashed potatoes, same with spaghetti squash and zucchini, especially now that they're in full season, can be used as faux noodles.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that when you ate foods that were too high in carbs, that the resulting glucose enters the bloodstream too rapidly... which could definitely be a part of "feeling like crap. Especially if you were super strict about what items you allowed into your meals. Your body is probably freaking out.

I don't know what kind you're eating but rice, corn and quinoa pasta have less gluten than wheat pasta.. would be an interesting test to see how you react if you choose to keep something like this around. I'm thinking tho.. if you feel like hell get it away and try other options that are just as affordable.

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on August 01, 2011
at 04:14 PM

i feel for you - my sis had to do the same for her family of 5 for awhile. she would make really hearty stews, meatballs, meatloaf, huge chopped salads, pulled pork as she could go for inexpensive cuts that low and slow cooking would make tasty. anything that could multi-task and stretch. take care and good luck!

215d3126214343a5760316f195a06b97

on August 01, 2011
at 03:36 PM

yes thanks, we are adding more tubers.. put them in the pea soups. I am trying to figure out ways to keep our meals as paleo as possible on 100 a week for a family of 8 (6 kids, 2 adults).. good thing is its only temporary, in about another month or so things will be more comfortable.

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on August 01, 2011
at 03:52 PM

Have you been making stews at all? They definitely stretch and you can get away with cheaper tougher cuts of meat as they will soften nicely as everything cooks low and slow. And with summer full upon us so many diff. varieties you can put together with all the veg available. Good luck and take care!

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1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

(6235)

on August 01, 2011
at 03:11 PM

I had a similar experience. After going paleo and cheating I discovered I reliably get migraines after eating gluten if I am otherwise avoiding it.

Having discovered this and cutting gluten out of my diet I have been able to stop having the hormonal migraines that have plagued generations of my family. It is the first time in a decade and a half that I have been reliably migraine fee for this long.

The correlation was neither reliable, nor clear until I had done without for a long stretch.

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205fe0a948274c4dbaa33eb958923529

on August 01, 2011
at 02:50 PM

Paleo doesnt need to be expensive, why would you put your health at risk for the sake of bread and spaggetti? I have cheat meals, but if anything makes me feel ill I'll avoid it or try and find a less cheating way of eating it.

215d3126214343a5760316f195a06b97

on August 01, 2011
at 03:34 PM

and if you've never been to a food pantry.. it's pretty much ALL nonpaleo foods lol. The bread we had was given to us.. the quinoa I have is leftover from when I was vegan a year and a half ago (amazingly hadn't expired), same with the rice we have.

215d3126214343a5760316f195a06b97

on August 01, 2011
at 03:33 PM

I know dude, believe me, I know. But we are seriously down to 100 dollars a week for a family of 8 (6 kids 2 adults). It's ONLY temporary.. so we're just doing what we can to get by until things are comfortable again in about another month or so. Don't judge me lol

205fe0a948274c4dbaa33eb958923529

(75)

on August 02, 2011
at 11:57 AM

Avoid the fancy shops and get to the markets, avoid supermarket butchers and get to the ones in the poor areas. I spent £20 on 12 Chicken breasts in a Halal free-range butchers this weekend, these were FULL breasts and not the heavily trimmed and seperated crap you see in supermarkets. The same amount of chicken in a supermarket would cost me about £35 and wouldnt be free range. Amazing how much you can save buying from World food type stores, they stock everything you'd ever need for Paleo and usually beat supermarkets hands down price wise. Also avoid 6 kids :) :)

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B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

(10255)

on August 01, 2011
at 02:46 PM

before i started paleo i never felt ill. i had a very healthy SAD; sugar free, low salt, raw vege, unprocessed. but the difference in how i felt once the soy and gluten were eliminated was astounding. i have been 99% compliant to no grains-legumes-dairy since march and coincidentally today i am doing an experiment by revisiting my old SAD diet. one meal in and my tongue feels swollen, tingly and i have the oddest taste in my mouth that three brushings and 5 minutes with my water pic cannot remove. i have had a short headache that resolved itself followed by vague abdominal cramping. i do not think i will make it through the day.

i'm glad i opted for black coffee this morning- the dairy would have likely caused the perfect storm.

B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

(10255)

on August 01, 2011
at 03:17 PM

and that was going to be my lunch today! i am a fellow PB addict; love it on pumpernickel bread *sigh*

215d3126214343a5760316f195a06b97

on August 01, 2011
at 02:52 PM

So interesting! Y'know whats weird.. the first time I ate peanut butter again after being paleo for awhile, my tongue felt tingly.. I don't think I ever had that before and I was a PB addict! This is all so crazy.. I am in denial over here lol.. not the peanut butter too Nooooo!

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38339c798846eb877778c8998317536d

on February 18, 2015
at 08:24 PM

Pregnant?  Get thee to a bath tub full of Epsom Salts, 2 cups X's 3, at least!  Yes, grains will not set well with you once you are getting what you really need.  I mysteriously projectile vomitted and nearly passed out a few weeks ago, I got terrible chills, I was so worried I called EMS when my broken thermometer said my temp was 95.  They checked everything, EKG perfect, blood sugar, perfect, blood pressure excellent, temp normal--EMT suggested the roll-over the forehead thermometer at Walmart the pediatricians use--having a baby get one!  Also, invest in H2O purifier, add minerals back if it's a cheap one by dissolving what you need in a jar of water you add to your purified water.  Also, look at heavy metals and sodium bentonite (aka super cheap kitty litter with no additives) mud treatments/bath.  I know it sounds crazy, but crazy like a fox.  Also, check out what the Canadian government has to say about vaccines and the roll in autism.  Good luck, good health, strong baby!

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C7023fb2a4aaad9af27da49332c41ac1

on May 31, 2013
at 06:14 AM

Glad I found this post. Since doing cheats after doing paleo for several months I have headaches and nausea (which I rarely have pre paleo.) I worry about my family history of diabetes. Hopefully, it's just an allergy response which can be remedied with adherent paleo.

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9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

on August 01, 2011
at 08:29 PM

I have tried different diets (Atkins, Zone, Nourishing Traditions, etc) and never went strict no-gluten until recently, on the Paleo diet. I was totally astonished by the positive health changes, and I didn't eat that much gluten before the change (maybe 1-2 small servings a day max). Starting the day I stopped eating grains, I lost about a pound a day for 7 days, and a host of other minor issues that I didn't know I had like digestion, sleep, mood, skin conditions, etc. all disappeared.

For a couple of months after quitting gluten, if I had literally one bite of anything with gluten, it would set off this chain reaction of digestive problems, sleep and energy problems, etc. which would last for 2-3 days.

Now, having been strict Paleo for a little more than 3 months, I can cheat with gluten about once every 10 days without much of a problem, as long as it is a fairly moderate amount, and is otherwise wholesome, for example I can have a couple of pieces of thin-crust home made pizza (including home made dough) which is rich with olive oil and Paleo toppings. However, if I try that twice in say a 2 week period, the effects of the 2nd cheat are really awful.

It is easy not to cheat now though, because bread, pasta, and basically anything made of grains tastes gross to me... the texture is a real turn-off, it is grainy and dry and a little too smooshy.

So I am coming to the conclusion that I did in fact have a problem with gluten, but had lived with it for a long time... I wouldn't say that I "didn't know I always felt bad", but a lot of minor health issues that I just took as unavoidable definitely were not. I suspect that this got worse as I got older (I'm 41), so probably affects me more than it did 10 years ago.

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Fac1af832cc3c6a20059c41411fd0f6b

(1548)

on August 01, 2011
at 08:21 PM

I think that you body has no longer committed resources to the fight since it was not under attack, and now that you reintroduced these things it is gonna take a bit to rebuild the defenses.

It is kind of like strenuous labor. After a few days it does not hurt anymore, you just do it and drone on and on for a bit. Just because it does not hurt does not mean damage isn't being done. If you have not hurt yourself too much you stop laboring for a while and not really notice too many benefits of it, but that first day back to work is gonna hurt all over again. The problem with gluten and heavy labor is that eventually you will start hurting again as there is only so much your body can handle over the long term.

Fac1af832cc3c6a20059c41411fd0f6b

(1548)

on August 02, 2011
at 04:46 AM

Thinking back on this, I think smoking would have made a better analogy.

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F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on August 01, 2011
at 05:58 PM

I ate toast every morning for most of my life before paleo and never had tummyy problems. My doctor randomly gave me IGG test for gluten (gliadin specifically). It was high, so I went off gluten. I started having big time tummy trouble after that, not even eating gluten. Now if I eat Gluten I am in a world of hurt (achy joints, inflammation, digestive upset). I kind of rue that day, and wish I had kept on the SAD diet. At least my stomach never hurt.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on August 01, 2011
at 08:53 PM

MICKEY: Ya, I have wondered if the migraines I had growing up and a bit of a pot belly (on a super skinny kid) were from some of these issue. Are your issues all better now? Was that list in your comment what helped you?

Fac1af832cc3c6a20059c41411fd0f6b

(1548)

on August 01, 2011
at 08:27 PM

Similar for me. I just emliminated the stuff that hurt my gut. Seeds hulls, tons of fiber, corn, beans, certain nuts etc all feel like a brillo pad in my abdomen. If someone were to punch your shoulder everyday, eventually you would not feel the pain, but that does not mean that you are not being hurt. I look back at my childhood and remember the nights racked with pain due to bellyaches and not knowing what is going on and being hurt and scared. Those were just the first times I had been punched in the shoulder. I didn't feel daily discomfort until my 30's.

Fac1af832cc3c6a20059c41411fd0f6b

(1548)

on August 02, 2011
at 04:57 AM

My issues are better now. Basically I eat meat, cheese, heavy cream, some veggies and some fruit. If I stray beyond a handful of nuts, corn, etc, I am feeling it later on. Gluten sensitivity runs in my family and I am type II diabetic so I avoid starchy stuff and will never again touch gluten. I am off my meds and controlling it with diet for now.

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