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Could one have gluten sensitivity/intolerance/celiac if...

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Created November 10, 2012 at 10:05 PM

if they feel great eating bread and pasta, staying off gluten for 20 days didn't change a thing and their bowel movements are regular and proper? I'm trying to stay off gluten, but hubby is reluctant, eats bread everyday for breakfast and dinner. He feels hungry after 3 eggs for breakfast, but not after 2 slices of bread. He's a swimmer and trains 2 hours a day and says bread is crucial for his energy levels. They say 90% of population have gluten sensitivity, could he just be the 10% that is fine with it?

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at 07:58 PM

Gonna go with Matt on this one, in that gluten sensitivity is really hard to diagnose, since there isn't really a test to do so as of yet (if I remember correctly, the anti-body test for Celiac only tests for reaction to one specific subset of gluten and there really aren't any standardized tests for reaction to the other parts). However, I'd argue that Ally's tactic of just going gluten-free (along with just cutting out grains all together, rather than trying to eat gluten-free products) tends to be a lot easier than trying to determine if your leaky gut is healed.

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on November 12, 2012
at 12:51 PM

will do, thanks Jake3_14

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on November 12, 2012
at 12:50 PM

Cheers Matt, I've got thyroid antibodies... my whole family feels better on gluten free diet, especially my sister, must be genetic

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on November 11, 2012
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Then ask him to read Wheat Belly, (except for chapters 8–9), and related books, such as Taubes' "Why We Get Fat" Manning's "Against the Grain," and Jaminet's "Perfect Health Diet."

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on November 11, 2012
at 05:27 PM

If you have gluten-intolerance issues, at best it's simply leaky gut. Allergies, auto-immunity, aches/pains, etc... probably a leaky gut.

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at 04:40 PM

he's the kind of person who needs more prove than one blog post. i'm trying to find a way to convey the info in a manner that would be convincing, so far he read the info and agrees such things are very possible and are happening to me evident by my constant diarrhoea etc but he's fine so it means he doesn't have it

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on November 11, 2012
at 04:33 PM

how do we know if leaky gut is present?

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at 04:27 PM

problem is he doesn't think paleo is all that and I'm trying to find ways to point out how it would benefit him, so far he's fine with bread so no need to change that, he already is ok with raw milk, numerous suppliments and all the expensive coconut oil I buy, so I need to give him his bread :) Sprouted/sourdough sounds good, but it will have to be me who makes it for him

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on November 11, 2012
at 02:08 AM

There's also a difference between people who have severe gluten intolerance such as Celiac Disease, which is an incredibly small amount of the population, vs the number of our population that has gluten slight-moderate gluten intolerance.

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Declining health is not necessarily something one feels or notices. Just because you feel good eating something, doesn't mean it's not bad for you.

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at 10:29 PM

Rather than 10%, there's probably more people who are gluten tolerant than gluten intolerant, so he very likely could be in that category.

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on November 11, 2012
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The 90% of folks figure is likely pushed by folks who want to sell books, DVD, and other products.

My take on the whole issue is that true gluten sensitivity is probably quite rare. Leaky gut problems are much more common. Assuming one's gut is not permanently damaged, gluten tolerance is something that can be regained - it's normal after all.

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on November 11, 2012
at 04:33 PM

how do we know if leaky gut is present?

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on November 11, 2012
at 05:27 PM

If you have gluten-intolerance issues, at best it's simply leaky gut. Allergies, auto-immunity, aches/pains, etc... probably a leaky gut.

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on November 12, 2012
at 12:50 PM

Cheers Matt, I've got thyroid antibodies... my whole family feels better on gluten free diet, especially my sister, must be genetic

C6648ab69e5a1560c7585fe3ba7108fb

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on July 08, 2013
at 07:58 PM

Gonna go with Matt on this one, in that gluten sensitivity is really hard to diagnose, since there isn't really a test to do so as of yet (if I remember correctly, the anti-body test for Celiac only tests for reaction to one specific subset of gluten and there really aren't any standardized tests for reaction to the other parts). However, I'd argue that Ally's tactic of just going gluten-free (along with just cutting out grains all together, rather than trying to eat gluten-free products) tends to be a lot easier than trying to determine if your leaky gut is healed.

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on July 08, 2013
at 02:10 PM

I agree with most other folks, food sensitivities are something like the metabolic syndrome, it builds up in a very slow way, faster for some people and slower for some other, but the fact that someone feels just OK today does not mean that it will tomorrow or 10 years in the future.

It's difficult to make someone forget about such a convenient food if he's not feeling any sides and is happy with it, but if in the future he might (and most certainly he will, he might avoid the fates of the leaky gut but I doubt the insulin and leptin resistance from high GI foods) it's worth considering it, he will have to make a bet for his future or stay like this until he really finds out, I guess... hope it's not the case.

If you haven't, I'd have a look at Dr's Kharrazian book about the thyroid, he makes a huge connection with it and gluten sensitivities, that's just one of the possible hazards.

Regarding the energy levels for sports, remember that is not the bread per se, but the carbohydrate load that gives him this feeling. Wheter these carbs are needed or not, it's debatable, but at least, he could get the same equivalent carb-wise with other safest sources like a ton of squash, carrots, cawliflower... Ok this is pretty mild, he could exchange for the same bread quantity for potatoes, sweet potatoes or white rice.

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on November 10, 2012
at 10:28 PM

I did an extensive research on gluten and this is my take on it: gluten is a villain, but it does not act alone, it needs to have buddies. Together they cause inflammation and damage your health. Just staying away from gluten but eating other nasty things won't do you any good.

If your hubby has to have bread, make sure he eats the sprouted/sourdough kind - traditionally made. It is easier on your system and could be safe.

The most important thing is to stay away from processed/industrialized foods - 1. vegetable oils 2. white flour, white sugar, white salt, white everything (and even rice needs to be soaked in my opinion to be safe) 3. additives/preservatives.

Yes, he can be fine with gluten, but unfermented wheat may act in his system as slow-acting poison. May or may not - we will never know.

Why not to try safe starches or sweet potatoes?

Again, if he eats traditionally made fermented/sprouted bread, he will minimize/possibly eliminate the damage.

Source: Weston A. Price, Deep Nutrition, a curious mind.

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on November 11, 2012
at 04:27 PM

problem is he doesn't think paleo is all that and I'm trying to find ways to point out how it would benefit him, so far he's fine with bread so no need to change that, he already is ok with raw milk, numerous suppliments and all the expensive coconut oil I buy, so I need to give him his bread :) Sprouted/sourdough sounds good, but it will have to be me who makes it for him

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on July 08, 2013
at 01:49 PM

Can you please share with me the doctor you found in London to help you?

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on November 11, 2012
at 02:08 AM

There's also a difference between people who have severe gluten intolerance such as Celiac Disease, which is an incredibly small amount of the population, vs the number of our population that has gluten slight-moderate gluten intolerance.

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on November 10, 2012
at 10:41 PM

Have your husband read the blog post What do you have that chimps don’t have? Nobody's tolerant of the gliadin in gluten. If he needs carbs, he should follow Paul Jaminet's food plan.

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on November 11, 2012
at 04:40 PM

he's the kind of person who needs more prove than one blog post. i'm trying to find a way to convey the info in a manner that would be convincing, so far he read the info and agrees such things are very possible and are happening to me evident by my constant diarrhoea etc but he's fine so it means he doesn't have it

A8dc0864e48ea2e8368b7a93f06dd850

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on November 12, 2012
at 12:51 PM

will do, thanks Jake3_14

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on November 11, 2012
at 05:33 PM

Then ask him to read Wheat Belly, (except for chapters 8–9), and related books, such as Taubes' "Why We Get Fat" Manning's "Against the Grain," and Jaminet's "Perfect Health Diet."

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