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Has eating paleo made me a wuss?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 26, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Here's some background. I started eating paleo around 9 months ago to see if it could help with some mental health issues. I'm a 24 year old male that has had schizophrenia since 13 years old. Medication and talk therapy has helped, but I had stalled and wanted to see if I could find life style solutions that would help. Enter paleo and tinkering with my diet.

I was intrigued by the link between schizophrenia and gluten, so I strictly avoided it for the last 6 months. Today I had a bagel to see how I'd react to gluten, and it has been horrible. I've had nausea and watery diarrhea most of the day. At first I had racing thoughts and twinges of paranoia and grandiosity that I haven't felt for a long time. For hours I've been in a stupor barely able to concentrate.

The thing is, back when I was eating wheat breakfast, lunch, and dinner because I thought it was healthy, I never experienced gastrointestinal problems or the racing thoughts and subsequent stupor (the paranoia and grandiosity are of course familiar territory and it is frightening to see them return with only a brief exposure).

Has paleo made my digestion a wuss? Why did I react so dramatically? Like I said, I never experienced gastrointestinal symptoms or racing thoughts and stupor from gluten exposure in the past before. Is there a way to make my digestive system tougher, or will I forever live in fear of the bagel?

A45af235ed4dd0b4f548c59e91b75763

(1936)

on April 27, 2012
at 03:57 PM

Honestly I was already a wuss, but it didn't help.

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

(6097)

on April 27, 2012
at 01:53 PM

I think getting married is what made you a wuss.

A45af235ed4dd0b4f548c59e91b75763

(1936)

on April 27, 2012
at 12:30 PM

Fear the bagel might be my next t-shirt idea..

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19413)

on April 27, 2012
at 10:07 AM

Unlikely, what Neuroleptic describes is a classic reaction to wheat. I suspect we all had these when we were kids, but since we couldn't talk to clearly tell our parents "This food is harming us" they thought we were just colicky, and continued to force feed us this stuff, until we stopped having a reaction to it. Once we're healed, any exposure brings back a reaction.

C79a5b43dfc5749200bd9dcaa6bb0858

on April 26, 2012
at 10:43 PM

Very nicely said CaveDad. I couldn't agree more!

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(705)

on April 26, 2012
at 09:57 PM

I don't really want to eat any more bagels, but I am just concerned that I had such a reaction to a single bagel.

Ffff513ac686cd18c840ee12c79357ed

(1183)

on April 26, 2012
at 09:42 PM

You don't need the bagel. No reason to fear it. The only thing gluten ever did for MY guts was make me less aware of how shitty I always felt eating it. Seriously, though. Why eat foods that hold no nutrition or taste or value to your body? Embrace your lack of love for the bagel. Have some kale and onions sauted with bacon, scrambled eggs and sprinkle on some hot sauce and move on!

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A45af235ed4dd0b4f548c59e91b75763

(1936)

on April 26, 2012
at 09:21 PM

When I was younger I used to drink a lot of beer. I could easily put away 8-10 beers and still be walking and talking. Since getting married 7 years ago I never have more then one beer and even then occasionally. I am not going to experiment, but I would image that if I drank 10 beers right now I would end up in the hospital.

So does that mean that not drinking beer has made me a wuss? Perhaps. It doesn't mean drinking more beer to build a tolerance would be wise or healthy.

My advice would be to let your body signal your intake, rather then trying to train your body to deal with your intake.

A45af235ed4dd0b4f548c59e91b75763

(1936)

on April 27, 2012
at 03:57 PM

Honestly I was already a wuss, but it didn't help.

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

(6097)

on April 27, 2012
at 01:53 PM

I think getting married is what made you a wuss.

C79a5b43dfc5749200bd9dcaa6bb0858

on April 26, 2012
at 10:43 PM

Very nicely said CaveDad. I couldn't agree more!

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Bfa1c9eacfc94a1b62f3a39b574480c6

(3700)

on April 26, 2012
at 10:36 PM

Decreased sensitivity with chronic exposure.

If you felt like 50% crap chronically before, it would have eventually become the new baseline, since you're so used to it.

If you reset to a healthy gut, then the baseline is 0% crap. So when you feel 50% crap a la bagels/wheat, you'll FEEL 50% crap for sure.

Paleo hasn't made you a wuss. If anything, you've found gut-healing, and smarter choices. You're smarter and stronger.

Bagels aren't real food anyway.

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C631e6c69fdeab669b6987e128cfd6ff

on April 27, 2012
at 03:39 AM

I went through an awful ordeal when i was 19. I had battled depression my whole life but it reached the breaking point around my sophmore year in college. The worst depression imaginable, coupled with agonizing anxiety attacks and brain fog so bad i drove myself to the emergency room several times because i thought i was having a stroke. i was ready to give up on life. i wasn't really schizophrenic but i lost my sense of self and my thought process turned into mush. It was at that lowest point when i found info on gluten/casein and omega 3 deficiency. shortly after that led me to paleo, and after four months of now vegetable oils, gluten, or dairy with a lot of omega 3, i had completely reversed my symptoms. paleo literally saved my life. Now, i feel mentally clear, happy, and have the health that i did when i was six. I mixed in intermittent fasting to up my bdnf levels. to answer your question, when i was eating gluten everyday, it didn't bother me, but now if i have a little bit, i immediately get sick and feel anxious. the body gets more sensitive to something when it isn't exposed to it for awhile, but the alternative is chronic degradation. i am more than happy to avoid gluten in exchange for everything i've gotten in return

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Eedf46c82d0356d1d46dda5f9782ef36

(4464)

on April 26, 2012
at 10:17 PM

Possible it was just a "bad" bagel? Maybe the person at the bagel shop was sick and touched it?

I use the following general rule in life for instances of things happening: Once is nothing. Twice is coincidence. Three times is a pattern.

Unfortunately the only way you'll know if you really have a bagel problem or if this was a freak occurrence is to have another bagel sometime.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19413)

on April 27, 2012
at 10:07 AM

Unlikely, what Neuroleptic describes is a classic reaction to wheat. I suspect we all had these when we were kids, but since we couldn't talk to clearly tell our parents "This food is harming us" they thought we were just colicky, and continued to force feed us this stuff, until we stopped having a reaction to it. Once we're healed, any exposure brings back a reaction.

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