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ketogenesis and gluconeogenesis

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 14, 2011 at 12:50 AM

hi. i am wondering, under average-everyday conditions what percentage of protein is conberted to glucose in a ketogenic diet. i was under the impression only a negligible amount until recetnly hearing otherwise from an undisclosable source. assuming carbs are only in the foem of low caloroe vegetables and that they are kept under 50grams per day(fore approx. 30 max) what percentage of protein would be used for glucose if any. factoring in intense weighttraining also...

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on October 14, 2011
at 08:49 AM

Quilt, you are talking a load of nonsense.

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on October 14, 2011
at 08:05 AM

Quilt, he asked how much you can convert, not how much you can handle. I think you convert around 50% of protein to carbs.

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on October 14, 2011
at 03:02 AM

Thanks. My doc is a gp and refuses to do anything further. So the rest is a mystery unless I go and do a salivary cortisol test I GUESS.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on October 14, 2011
at 02:35 AM

That tells me your liver is in very good shape but tells me nada about your adrenals or other hormone status. But its a great start.

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on October 14, 2011
at 01:30 AM

Me too! I had my lipids done and I had 143 HDL and 41 ldl and 39 tg. Does this mean I should be eating high protein or that I can tolerate high protein?

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on October 14, 2011
at 01:26 AM

Hi Quilt. Thanks for that reply. --- "If your HDL is above 60 you likely can easily handle 250 gms of protein"--- Can you expand upon that statement, please? That is very interesting and informative for me. I'd like to read more about that particular link. Thanks.

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on October 14, 2011
at 01:24 AM

Depends upon how good hormone status and gut status are. If your HDL is above 60 you likely can easily handle 250 gms of protein.....those with rockstarish HDL, great adrenals, and low fasting BG can handle a lot more. Not everyone can. You can retrain your gut and liver to do so but it takes some time.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19235)

on October 14, 2011
at 08:49 AM

Quilt, you are talking a load of nonsense.

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on October 14, 2011
at 01:30 AM

Me too! I had my lipids done and I had 143 HDL and 41 ldl and 39 tg. Does this mean I should be eating high protein or that I can tolerate high protein?

Da3d4a6835c0f5256b2ef829b3ba3393

on October 14, 2011
at 01:26 AM

Hi Quilt. Thanks for that reply. --- "If your HDL is above 60 you likely can easily handle 250 gms of protein"--- Can you expand upon that statement, please? That is very interesting and informative for me. I'd like to read more about that particular link. Thanks.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 14, 2011
at 08:05 AM

Quilt, he asked how much you can convert, not how much you can handle. I think you convert around 50% of protein to carbs.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on October 14, 2011
at 02:35 AM

That tells me your liver is in very good shape but tells me nada about your adrenals or other hormone status. But its a great start.

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on October 14, 2011
at 03:02 AM

Thanks. My doc is a gp and refuses to do anything further. So the rest is a mystery unless I go and do a salivary cortisol test I GUESS.

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on October 14, 2011
at 11:29 PM

I've seen multiple sites saying that protein is converted to glucose at a 58% efficiency. If you're doing heavy weightlifting, you're unlikely to get the glucose you need to rebuild your glycogen stores through protein alone.

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