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Has anyone seen BBC2's "The Men Who Made Us Fat" ?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created June 15, 2012 at 3:55 AM

I've having a regular Paleogasm here!

On the first episode of BBC's 3-part series, they've:
- Had positive talking points from Lustig and Taubes, as well as former and current industry insiders regarding current food "products"
- Shown how Corn Subsidies under the Nixon Administration indirectly raised calorie consumption by making meat and high-calorie sweets low-cost
- Shown how Ancel Keys used nasty tactics to discredit anyone (Yadkins) with an opposing viewpoint on Saturated fats.
- Pretty much looks at sugar, and it's lobbies in a negative light (specifically how the sugar industry threatened the World Health Organization and US Government with withdrawal of lobby/research funding if their findings on sugar consumption as related to heart disease and obesity).
- Shows UK and American research regarding physical addictions to food and how food marketing exploits it.

In a nutshell, it puts the blame on a 30-year "perfect storm" of profits, lobbies, politics, and bad science.

I am pleasantly surprised with this first episode. Looking forward to 2 and 3 now. It's all stuff I already knew, but frankly I'm used to seeing "blah blah, less meat, blah blah, exercise, blah blah, fat people are lazy" and it was refreshing to see a "higher logic" reaching the masses (albeit on the other side of the Atlantic).

121a16aded2bed8dca492d3c9662ef4c

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on July 13, 2012
at 09:26 PM

Um, that link is just a teaser -- you don't get the whole thing. The Beeb doesn't give that stuff away for nothing. If you're outside the UK, tough luck.

5759bd89db5f73cabe0a6e8f8e6e1cb9

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on June 15, 2012
at 10:56 PM

Honestly. I just get tired of these things. My mum's friend who is a Dr looked at my recent blood tests where my HDL was high and LDL low and he told me to "stop with the fatty food" arrghh

6ec8d30130a6fb274871314533b5536b

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on June 15, 2012
at 09:21 PM

Yes thank you for finding the Youtube vid... can't wait to watch this. :D

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on June 15, 2012
at 05:50 PM

My husband recorded it for me and said, "At last, here is a programme on nutrition where you won't be shouting 'No,no,no' at the screen all evening!"

246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

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on June 15, 2012
at 04:42 PM

I searched for the show title before I posted this, sorry.

5759bd89db5f73cabe0a6e8f8e6e1cb9

(1467)

on June 15, 2012
at 01:51 PM

@Jean you are right. I kept on saying to my husband 'you see, it's true. I'm not making this up!' So yes it was exciting.

87b7d250ea30415ed4c1afd809f4053f

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on June 15, 2012
at 12:59 PM

oh, but very cool. :)

87b7d250ea30415ed4c1afd809f4053f

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on June 15, 2012
at 12:59 PM

Just read that a couple of hours ago. Weird that all that was all said in a newspaper isn't it.

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on June 15, 2012
at 08:14 AM

You may have heard it a thousand times but it's exciting new stuff ro most people who don't know about paleo. Excellent for a main stream programme

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on June 15, 2012
at 04:13 AM

yup, found it. here's episode 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYVoYwU1-kk

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on June 15, 2012
at 04:07 AM

brits = brilliant. hope this is on youtube

6235e0b7e3c4c4b9df3d926829bc32f6

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on June 15, 2012
at 04:13 AM

yup, found it. here's episode 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYVoYwU1-kk

6ec8d30130a6fb274871314533b5536b

(581)

on June 15, 2012
at 09:21 PM

Yes thank you for finding the Youtube vid... can't wait to watch this. :D

121a16aded2bed8dca492d3c9662ef4c

(1327)

on July 13, 2012
at 09:26 PM

Um, that link is just a teaser -- you don't get the whole thing. The Beeb doesn't give that stuff away for nothing. If you're outside the UK, tough luck.

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35b2cb4d450e5288895c255dfdfff35d

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on June 15, 2012
at 12:26 PM

With a little bit of effort I was able to use one of those free UK proxy servers to let me watch the show in the US.

I use FoxyProxy for Firefox (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/foxyproxy-basic/) to simplify proxy server management. I picked the first proxy on this UK proxy list (http://www.xroxy.com/proxy-country-GB.htm), gave FoxyProxy the IP and port for the proxy, enabled the proxy, and then went to the page for the show (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01jxzv8/The_Men_Who_Made_Us_Fat_Episode_1/).

I only watched a few seconds of the program (or should I say "programme"), enough to confirm that the proxy was working.

A couple of notes.

  • With free proxies you may or may not get a reliable connection.

  • Episode 1 is only available for 3 weeks so, if you're going to watch it, watch it soon.

  • If streaming of the program is slow you can disable the proxy once the program has started to stream since supposedly the player only checks your country at the beginning of the streaming.

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on June 15, 2012
at 11:45 AM

The best thing about it, for me, is that the information is getting out there!

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on June 15, 2012
at 11:33 AM

There was an article in the Guardian earlier this week anticipating the BBC series, for anyone not able to see it.

87b7d250ea30415ed4c1afd809f4053f

(968)

on June 15, 2012
at 12:59 PM

oh, but very cool. :)

87b7d250ea30415ed4c1afd809f4053f

(968)

on June 15, 2012
at 12:59 PM

Just read that a couple of hours ago. Weird that all that was all said in a newspaper isn't it.

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on June 17, 2012
at 09:51 PM

Yes it was brilliant. My daughter and I watched it together and kept bursting in to a spontaneous round of applause. Nothing new for us but it made so many points clearly and succinctly that 'ordinary' people, i.e. those who don't bother finding anything out for themselves and believe everything the government and food industry say, can understand. The best bot was when I think it was Robert Lustig said something like: if they (govt recommendations) are correct then fine but if they're wrong then it has been a disaster - look around I think we can see what it has been.

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on June 15, 2012
at 02:09 PM

It was an enlightening show. Really looking forward to the next episode. Jacques Peretti has a blog on the BBC (as well as the Grauniad) about the show: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tv/2012/06/the-men-who-made-us-fat.shtml talking about TOFI (thin outside, fat inside) among other things. Harks back to the thin-fat bodies and the Barker hypothesis: http://questioning-answers.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/barker-hypothesis-and-thin-fat-bodies.html

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7250fd9a9a0a2f879516aa7d1156374b

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on June 15, 2012
at 09:29 AM

Watched it last night on BBC.

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on July 13, 2012
at 07:19 PM

first 2 eps are on youtube. and i just saw the third one via bbc iplayer.

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on June 15, 2012
at 04:39 PM

Yea I started a thread about it but didn't mention the name in the title, was a great documentary, can't really beat brits for documentaries :p

246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

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on June 15, 2012
at 04:42 PM

I searched for the show title before I posted this, sorry.

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on June 15, 2012
at 10:42 AM

Missed it, but will find in and add to my series link!

Will be good to show the old's.

Thanks buddy!!!

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5759bd89db5f73cabe0a6e8f8e6e1cb9

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on June 15, 2012
at 05:58 AM

Yes I saw it but after previously watching Lustig on youtube and reading Taubes it all felt like stuff I'd heard a thousand times.

7e36094a0f7a2fbad24290225405220b

(2064)

on June 15, 2012
at 08:14 AM

You may have heard it a thousand times but it's exciting new stuff ro most people who don't know about paleo. Excellent for a main stream programme

5759bd89db5f73cabe0a6e8f8e6e1cb9

(1467)

on June 15, 2012
at 01:51 PM

@Jean you are right. I kept on saying to my husband 'you see, it's true. I'm not making this up!' So yes it was exciting.

7e36094a0f7a2fbad24290225405220b

(2064)

on June 15, 2012
at 05:50 PM

My husband recorded it for me and said, "At last, here is a programme on nutrition where you won't be shouting 'No,no,no' at the screen all evening!"

5759bd89db5f73cabe0a6e8f8e6e1cb9

(1467)

on June 15, 2012
at 10:56 PM

Honestly. I just get tired of these things. My mum's friend who is a Dr looked at my recent blood tests where my HDL was high and LDL low and he told me to "stop with the fatty food" arrghh

0
01adafcb4dd4147c6af543f61eee60a8

on June 15, 2012
at 04:59 AM

Ye watched it,very interesting.

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