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Bulking up, is 3.25% homogenized milk ok for a teen?

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Created April 09, 2012 at 3:04 AM

17yr old here, 108lbs, doing Starting Strength.

I am looking to introduce more calories into my diet, I have no plan of doing GOMAD though.

In Montreal it's impossible to find raw milk and I only have access to whole milk which is 3.25% milk. I have been wondering if it would be a good idea to include homogenized milk considering that I am still growing?

I also eat 1lb of ground beef everyday. I'd been previously eating lots of whole chicken legs but have eliminated them due to their O6 content.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on April 09, 2012
at 04:31 PM

I've posted a request on the Santa Fe FaceBook Bulletin Board page. I'll let you know as soon as I get a response. I'll send you an email, OK?

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on April 09, 2012
at 03:29 PM

That would be awesome! I just spoke to my mom and she is on board and willing to try making and drinking milk kefir. I think it would help enormously.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on April 09, 2012
at 02:18 PM

Gydle~ I don't have either, unfortunately, but I can ask around & get back to you.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on April 09, 2012
at 02:17 PM

Gydie~ I don't have either, unfortunately, but I can ask around & get back to you.

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on April 09, 2012
at 02:16 PM

and also decide whether you want to push product or just participate in the discussion. Dr. Kruse, "The Quilt," is not a good example to follow in this regard, IMO.

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on April 09, 2012
at 01:53 PM

references, my dear, are how people do this dance without stepping on toes.

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on April 09, 2012
at 01:42 PM

Your pre work out meal is by far the best way to not retain muscle before a workout besides starving yourself.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

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on April 09, 2012
at 01:42 PM

Your pre work out meal is by far the best way to not reatin muscle before a workout besides starving yourself.

Bf57bcbdc19d4f1728599053acd020ab

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on April 09, 2012
at 07:24 AM

Dragonfly do you have a source of kefir grains in Santa Fe? Or a naturopathic doctor you could refer to? My 77-year old mom has just been diagnosed with lymphocytic colitis and I'm worried.

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on April 09, 2012
at 06:24 AM

First a 15 y/o now a 17 y/o my ESP is smelling spam.

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on April 09, 2012
at 04:22 AM

That's what I thought Dragonfly, re the pasteurisation being more damaging.

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on April 09, 2012
at 04:11 AM

Here in Canada ''When a cow is treated with antibiotics, however, her milk is not permitted in the milk supply pool and is discarded'' http://www.dairynutrition.ca/facts-fallacies/product-quality/antibiotics

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on April 09, 2012
at 04:05 AM

http://www.raw-milk-facts.com/

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on April 09, 2012
at 04:00 AM

It's the pasteurization that does the most damage.

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E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

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on April 09, 2012
at 01:41 PM

First off you want to make sure the milk is free of added vitamins as they use emulsifiers that are known to cause digestive issues. Raw isn't really that special imo, just find milk that taste good to you.

You won't build any significant weight at your age without plenty of carbs though.

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on April 09, 2012
at 04:22 AM

Canada has access to cheeses made from raw milk, as I recall from living in Toronto about a decade ago.

If you're trying to add muscle mass, eating high-fat / moderate protein / very low carb foods in the meals BEFORE you train is an excellent strategy for retaining muscle while avoiding putting on a bunch of fat with it, which is what you'll get with typical bulking-up "programs". (And "Just get the calories in, bro" is not a program!)

(I mean, I ASSUME you're not trying to become big and pudgy, just big.)

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on April 09, 2012
at 01:42 PM

Your pre work out meal is by far the best way to not reatin muscle before a workout besides starving yourself.

284213562569be43dfda0ad40914da6f

on April 09, 2012
at 02:16 PM

and also decide whether you want to push product or just participate in the discussion. Dr. Kruse, "The Quilt," is not a good example to follow in this regard, IMO.

284213562569be43dfda0ad40914da6f

on April 09, 2012
at 01:53 PM

references, my dear, are how people do this dance without stepping on toes.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on April 09, 2012
at 01:42 PM

Your pre work out meal is by far the best way to not retain muscle before a workout besides starving yourself.

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Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on April 09, 2012
at 04:02 AM

Kefir or Yogurt are better dairy sources if you can't find raw milk, IMO.

Try to find hormone & antibiotic-free.

55cacccadb701036d0c796595d37fa9a

(53)

on April 09, 2012
at 04:11 AM

Here in Canada ''When a cow is treated with antibiotics, however, her milk is not permitted in the milk supply pool and is discarded'' http://www.dairynutrition.ca/facts-fallacies/product-quality/antibiotics

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on April 09, 2012
at 02:18 PM

Gydle~ I don't have either, unfortunately, but I can ask around & get back to you.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on April 09, 2012
at 02:17 PM

Gydie~ I don't have either, unfortunately, but I can ask around & get back to you.

Bf57bcbdc19d4f1728599053acd020ab

(5043)

on April 09, 2012
at 07:24 AM

Dragonfly do you have a source of kefir grains in Santa Fe? Or a naturopathic doctor you could refer to? My 77-year old mom has just been diagnosed with lymphocytic colitis and I'm worried.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on April 09, 2012
at 04:31 PM

I've posted a request on the Santa Fe FaceBook Bulletin Board page. I'll let you know as soon as I get a response. I'll send you an email, OK?

Bf57bcbdc19d4f1728599053acd020ab

(5043)

on April 09, 2012
at 03:29 PM

That would be awesome! I just spoke to my mom and she is on board and willing to try making and drinking milk kefir. I think it would help enormously.

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6b8d12fc3e43179f9ae1765a4d1a9dc2

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on April 09, 2012
at 03:22 AM

I haven't really seen any evidence that homogenization will do that much damage. I mean, of course, as natural as possible is always best, therefore non-homogenized milk will be the preferred alternative. But if homogenized is all that you can get, and you can tolerate dairy, then you should be fine.

If anyone has any evidence of the negatives of homogenized milk please send it my way. I have to admit, though, I always pay the little bit extra and get non-homogenized milk.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on April 09, 2012
at 04:05 AM

http://www.raw-milk-facts.com/

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on April 09, 2012
at 04:00 AM

It's the pasteurization that does the most damage.

6b8d12fc3e43179f9ae1765a4d1a9dc2

(5914)

on April 09, 2012
at 04:22 AM

That's what I thought Dragonfly, re the pasteurisation being more damaging.

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