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Would you add fruit and/or potato to this diet for energy?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created January 21, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Would you add fruit and/or potato to this diet to increase energy for exercise?

5am-9am Coffee and water

9am- soft-boiled egg over 2 cups of steamed veggies with olive oil

11am- 3 oz of diced chicken or tuna seasoned and in oil, over two cups of lettuce, broccoli slaw, or in zucchini boats

4pm- Almond milk latte or espresso or coffee

7pm- 1/4 lb ground beef over 2 cups veggies (taco salad, "spaghetti," or stir-fry, etc.)

Usually have a glass of red wine in the evening, but not always.

2a00b9a42e4cb6e489a0e69d20714576

(3043)

on January 25, 2013
at 05:14 PM

What do you mean Lyndsay?

94480caec9fbbaacc386d86a45efa720

(1007)

on January 22, 2013
at 02:52 PM

Also, fry those eggs in some butter or something, girl. damn.

94480caec9fbbaacc386d86a45efa720

(1007)

on January 22, 2013
at 03:07 AM

I eat more protein than you do and a bit of fruit. I usually have some blueberries a couple of times a week or some other berries. I have an apple every few days with a meal. Other fruits I rotate in what's in season. Lately pomegranate, tangerine or orange (a half), mango. I don't do potato often but sweet potato or rice or peas. I'm 128#. I eat some nuts for snacks sometimes, mostly cashews and almonds.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 21, 2013
at 11:44 PM

Chelsea, you and JayJay should talk later.

2a00b9a42e4cb6e489a0e69d20714576

(3043)

on January 21, 2013
at 11:30 PM

I agree, JayJay. I would sub the veggies for two-three good sweet potatos, some fruit (whatever is organic, cheap and in season-not just cuz its low sugar or whatever crapt, especially very ripe bananas which are an excellent starch source), butternut squash, pumpkin. You get full on such a small amount because low calories for prolonged period of time puts you in ketosis. When you start eating more (dense carbs) your appetite will return and you will be able to fuel your exercise properly.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 21, 2013
at 10:13 PM

So, you think that 4 cups of veggies per day is not optimal? Two cups of these veggies are cooked in fat. How many cups of veggies per day do you find optimal for proper nutrition and why?

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 21, 2013
at 09:30 PM

Thank you, foreveryoung. That's solid, sensible advice. It's easy to understand and you managed to deliver your answer in such a way that doesn't make me want to run from this planet in terror of what the future leaders of this world have in store for us. Bravo!

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 21, 2013
at 09:25 PM

I finished Perfect health Diet a few weeks ago, and that's what prompted me to answer this question. Thank you.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on January 21, 2013
at 09:24 PM

Theres your problem then. Replace the low-no energy producing and space filling veggie matter with some more caloric dense food.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on January 21, 2013
at 09:22 PM

Guess that answer caused a stir. Thats odd. I thought it was probably one of my least controversial responses like ever!

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 21, 2013
at 09:09 PM

I've been Paleo for three years. I think it's great that you can eat so much. I'm not hungry after two cups of veggies, some fat and a handful of protein, but I don't have much energy to work out.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 21, 2013
at 06:26 PM

Alright, I mean I'm gonna be myself, but as long as we can chill out on the personal attacks I don't see a problem. In the future if something I say hurts your feelings, just be like, hey Stephen do you think you could remove or edit your comment, I'm an older woman and I find that comment mildly immature/slightly disrespectful. I'd be happy to change it if you had approached me like that. I didn't intend for that comment to be disrespectful, I thought what jay jay said was legitimately funny and correct is all.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 21, 2013
at 06:19 PM

Did I vote to close one of your questions? Okay? If I did, it's not a personal vendetta against you.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 21, 2013
at 06:13 PM

Does that mean you're gonna stop voting to close my questions? If so then that sounds great to me..

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 21, 2013
at 06:11 PM

Still not making sense. How about we agree to ignore each other?

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 21, 2013
at 06:09 PM

I generally use a palmful of protein per meal. I'm 5'3 120-125. I was doing pilates every morning before work, but I'm struggling with energy. Did you add potato and fruit with meals or alone?

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 21, 2013
at 06:02 PM

Excuse me Lindsay, when I plus 1 somebody I tend to post under their post, +1, then little miss sunshine comes on here and tells me that I'm the reason people are leaving this site. Idk where you're getting off playing the victim here after making blatant accusations, but that is completely inappropriate.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 21, 2013
at 05:58 PM

You aren't making any sense, and I'm not sure what your questions have to do with me. If you don't have an answer that pertains to the question I posted, then you obviously just popped on to join in with someone to laugh at me. So, what's YOUR deal?

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 21, 2013
at 05:57 PM

Absolutely no progress will be made on this website and in the lives of these members if everyone is afraid to give direct answers to people. Playing small does not serve the world, there is nothing enlightened about shrinking down so others won't feel insecure around you. Or maybe I've just been eating to many oysters lately..

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 21, 2013
at 05:51 PM

Help more people discover their best self. I treat others exactly how I want to be treated. I prefer someone be very direct with me than beat around the bush. In this case jay jay was extremely direct, and it was funny. If I could rewrite the rules, right after the golden rule I would add learn how to take constructive criticism even if it's in joke form @Lynday. Srs, what's the deal here?

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 21, 2013
at 05:49 PM

When I ask somebody if HIIT is superior to vlc, and provide evidence that it seems to be, then when somebody reads that, and looks at the evidence, if they answer yes to it then deep down inside they now know that their weight is more in control than it previously was. It empowers them to take their life into their hands and create the body they deserve. It's an empowering question because if the answer is yes then the individual now has more control over their life. I'm gaining nothing from it, in fact I got a shit ton of down votes from it. But idc about the downvotes because I just want to

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 21, 2013
at 05:44 PM

This is in the FAQ for PaleoHacks : BE NICE. Treat others with the same respect you'd want them to treat you. For more Paleo Diet hacks: http://paleohacks.com/faq#ixzz2IdJZ8X6U Follow us: @PaleoHacks on Twitter | PaleoHacks on Facebook

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 21, 2013
at 05:38 PM

Stephen, what do your questions about HIIT have to do with you being a jerk?

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 21, 2013
at 05:25 PM

And questions like mine, encouraging people to do HIIT training, eat more seafood, increase insulin sensitivity, etc are what's HELPING a lot of the people who actually want to make a positive Change in their lives right now. I wasn't even the one who cracked the joke, come on now, learn to laugh at yourself, we all make mistakes, I used to be a vegan ffs, a person who's never made a mistake has never tried anything new -Einstein.

2a00b9a42e4cb6e489a0e69d20714576

(3043)

on January 21, 2013
at 05:22 PM

No really, im 5'2 girl and I eat about 2000 calories at the min. I don't workout other than some irregular weightlifting.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 21, 2013
at 05:22 PM

@Lndysay, there are two processes in the body. There is a catabolic process filled with cortisol and stress and an anabolic pathway filled with sex hormones like testosterone and progesterone. One of these is inflammatory, one of these is anti-inflammatory, one of these is health promoting and one of them tears down health. Choose which one you Want to be in, but fcs anyone who can't take a joke needs to grow up already, we don't live in a happy unicorn world filled with rainbows and lollipops.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 21, 2013
at 04:54 PM

@Stephen- dudes like you are the reason that so many people get turned away from paleo-hacks.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 21, 2013
at 04:48 PM

Okay, got my account back. I have tracked my food into fitday, so I know how many calories I consume. I am also full on this amount. I am looking to increase energy for exercise.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 21, 2013
at 04:48 PM

@JayJay, lmao, +1.

30587f0e4daefee1e15b7509be4d65dd

on January 21, 2013
at 03:52 PM

No, it's about 1200-1400 calories. I am 5'3. Is there any reason to be a jacka**?

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3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on January 21, 2013
at 03:48 PM

I would add FOOD to that diet for more energy. What is that like 900 calories?

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 21, 2013
at 05:57 PM

Absolutely no progress will be made on this website and in the lives of these members if everyone is afraid to give direct answers to people. Playing small does not serve the world, there is nothing enlightened about shrinking down so others won't feel insecure around you. Or maybe I've just been eating to many oysters lately..

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 21, 2013
at 06:19 PM

Did I vote to close one of your questions? Okay? If I did, it's not a personal vendetta against you.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 21, 2013
at 04:54 PM

@Stephen- dudes like you are the reason that so many people get turned away from paleo-hacks.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 21, 2013
at 05:44 PM

This is in the FAQ for PaleoHacks : BE NICE. Treat others with the same respect you'd want them to treat you. For more Paleo Diet hacks: http://paleohacks.com/faq#ixzz2IdJZ8X6U Follow us: @PaleoHacks on Twitter | PaleoHacks on Facebook

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 21, 2013
at 04:48 PM

@JayJay, lmao, +1.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 21, 2013
at 06:11 PM

Still not making sense. How about we agree to ignore each other?

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 21, 2013
at 05:51 PM

Help more people discover their best self. I treat others exactly how I want to be treated. I prefer someone be very direct with me than beat around the bush. In this case jay jay was extremely direct, and it was funny. If I could rewrite the rules, right after the golden rule I would add learn how to take constructive criticism even if it's in joke form @Lynday. Srs, what's the deal here?

30587f0e4daefee1e15b7509be4d65dd

on January 21, 2013
at 03:52 PM

No, it's about 1200-1400 calories. I am 5'3. Is there any reason to be a jacka**?

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 21, 2013
at 05:22 PM

@Lndysay, there are two processes in the body. There is a catabolic process filled with cortisol and stress and an anabolic pathway filled with sex hormones like testosterone and progesterone. One of these is inflammatory, one of these is anti-inflammatory, one of these is health promoting and one of them tears down health. Choose which one you Want to be in, but fcs anyone who can't take a joke needs to grow up already, we don't live in a happy unicorn world filled with rainbows and lollipops.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 21, 2013
at 06:02 PM

Excuse me Lindsay, when I plus 1 somebody I tend to post under their post, +1, then little miss sunshine comes on here and tells me that I'm the reason people are leaving this site. Idk where you're getting off playing the victim here after making blatant accusations, but that is completely inappropriate.

2a00b9a42e4cb6e489a0e69d20714576

(3043)

on January 21, 2013
at 05:22 PM

No really, im 5'2 girl and I eat about 2000 calories at the min. I don't workout other than some irregular weightlifting.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 21, 2013
at 05:49 PM

When I ask somebody if HIIT is superior to vlc, and provide evidence that it seems to be, then when somebody reads that, and looks at the evidence, if they answer yes to it then deep down inside they now know that their weight is more in control than it previously was. It empowers them to take their life into their hands and create the body they deserve. It's an empowering question because if the answer is yes then the individual now has more control over their life. I'm gaining nothing from it, in fact I got a shit ton of down votes from it. But idc about the downvotes because I just want to

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 21, 2013
at 06:13 PM

Does that mean you're gonna stop voting to close my questions? If so then that sounds great to me..

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 21, 2013
at 05:58 PM

You aren't making any sense, and I'm not sure what your questions have to do with me. If you don't have an answer that pertains to the question I posted, then you obviously just popped on to join in with someone to laugh at me. So, what's YOUR deal?

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 21, 2013
at 05:38 PM

Stephen, what do your questions about HIIT have to do with you being a jerk?

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on January 21, 2013
at 09:22 PM

Guess that answer caused a stir. Thats odd. I thought it was probably one of my least controversial responses like ever!

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 21, 2013
at 05:25 PM

And questions like mine, encouraging people to do HIIT training, eat more seafood, increase insulin sensitivity, etc are what's HELPING a lot of the people who actually want to make a positive Change in their lives right now. I wasn't even the one who cracked the joke, come on now, learn to laugh at yourself, we all make mistakes, I used to be a vegan ffs, a person who's never made a mistake has never tried anything new -Einstein.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on January 21, 2013
at 06:26 PM

Alright, I mean I'm gonna be myself, but as long as we can chill out on the personal attacks I don't see a problem. In the future if something I say hurts your feelings, just be like, hey Stephen do you think you could remove or edit your comment, I'm an older woman and I find that comment mildly immature/slightly disrespectful. I'd be happy to change it if you had approached me like that. I didn't intend for that comment to be disrespectful, I thought what jay jay said was legitimately funny and correct is all.

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1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

on January 21, 2013
at 09:25 PM

Okay here are my basic recommendations.

Whether or not you should increase your carbs is based upon a variety of variables, but the two I'll be addressing here are (1) the contents of the rest of your diet and (2) your current exercise regimen.

Starting with point (1), you should be consuming between 0.8 and 1.5 grams of protein/lb of lean body mass for maintenance, g/lb of desired body mass for fat loss. So, before anything else, make sure you have that down. Just off the top of my head and guessing you're not heavily into resistance training, go with 0.8 grams of protein/lb of current lean or desired body mass.

Next, make sure you are in your calorie range. A good rule of thumb is around 14-16 calories/lb of body mass for maintenance and around 10 calories/lb for cutting.

After you have those two, start manipulating carbs and fats. Eat carbs to fuel your workouts and how many is a very sensitive issue and largely dependent upon (a) the types of workouts you do (b) the duration of the workouts you do (c) the amount of muscle mass you carry and (d) the amount of bodyfat you carry. (c) and (d) go hand in hand with how good your glucose tolerance is, and therefore, how much you should be eating.

I am going to give a ball-park but start with the remainder of your calories (after making sure you're getting enough protein) divided evenly between fats and carbs. Depending on your own body-type, your goals, and your workouts, you can manipulate the ratios of carbs and fats as needed.

I hope that gives you an idea. It's just my advice though, you certainly don't have to take it.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 21, 2013
at 09:30 PM

Thank you, foreveryoung. That's solid, sensible advice. It's easy to understand and you managed to deliver your answer in such a way that doesn't make me want to run from this planet in terror of what the future leaders of this world have in store for us. Bravo!

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75d65450b6ff0be7b969fb321f1200ac

(2506)

on January 21, 2013
at 09:17 PM

Lyndsay, indeed you are in need of carbs. If you don't have any gut issues then by all means work in a small bowl of rice or a baked potato (w/butter or ghee) at least every other day. Not sure where you'd fit fruit into your diet but if you want to snack on something I actually prefer seeds/nuts (I like walnuts and brazil nuts) since I can nibble on them very slowly. With fruit, especially the dried stuff contained in a trail mix, I tend to gobble too much down too quickly.

There are also a lot of paleo folks who believe strongly in the value of consuming select fats and oils. You might want to fry your eggs in ghee/butter and try using coconut oil whenever you fry anything else.

Lastly, read Perfect Health Diet if you haven't done so. It's a very comprehensive look at both diet and supplements.

_Lazza

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 21, 2013
at 09:25 PM

I finished Perfect health Diet a few weeks ago, and that's what prompted me to answer this question. Thank you.

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2a00b9a42e4cb6e489a0e69d20714576

on January 21, 2013
at 08:50 PM

Wow, a little off track at the top. Anyway I really think this idea of a palm of protein is just another government recommended trap to get you to eat more crapt and refined carbs and junk, to make you another victim of the healthcare system. To me, its eat what and when your hungry in the paleo framework. For instance Im 5'2, about 100 pounds. My typical day looks like this: Wake-up 1 glass coconut water Have one of these options: 2 lambchops with a fried egg or three, leftover bowl of chili, pumpkin paleo oatmeal, bacon and eggs, coconut milk smoothie in whatever portion I want. 11 am or 2 pm depending on when I need a snack-Usually I might Have a bowl of raspberries with coconut milk and cinnamon mashed or blended to taste like sorbet. Lunch: Assorted Veggie, chili, pork chops, leftover steak, smoothie or pumpkin oatmeal eggs (Again whether that be 3-4 oz of meat or 10-16 oz) I let my body guide me, eat mindfully and put it in the fridge for later when I am full. Dinner: Grassfed beef, sweet potato, Veggies Usually a glass of coconut water or an after dinner frozen plum.

I have tried the gament of diets, raw vegan, vegetarian, intermittent fasting, restricted carb to the point of ocd and carnivore. If you exercise you may need more food or more carbs in general. I still cook all my food in coconut oil, bacon grease or beef fat. Make your lifestyle sustainable. I have gotten very muscular eating this way from skinny fat.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on January 21, 2013
at 09:24 PM

Theres your problem then. Replace the low-no energy producing and space filling veggie matter with some more caloric dense food.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 21, 2013
at 09:09 PM

I've been Paleo for three years. I think it's great that you can eat so much. I'm not hungry after two cups of veggies, some fat and a handful of protein, but I don't have much energy to work out.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 21, 2013
at 10:13 PM

So, you think that 4 cups of veggies per day is not optimal? Two cups of these veggies are cooked in fat. How many cups of veggies per day do you find optimal for proper nutrition and why?

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 21, 2013
at 11:44 PM

Chelsea, you and JayJay should talk later.

2a00b9a42e4cb6e489a0e69d20714576

(3043)

on January 21, 2013
at 11:30 PM

I agree, JayJay. I would sub the veggies for two-three good sweet potatos, some fruit (whatever is organic, cheap and in season-not just cuz its low sugar or whatever crapt, especially very ripe bananas which are an excellent starch source), butternut squash, pumpkin. You get full on such a small amount because low calories for prolonged period of time puts you in ketosis. When you start eating more (dense carbs) your appetite will return and you will be able to fuel your exercise properly.

2a00b9a42e4cb6e489a0e69d20714576

(3043)

on January 25, 2013
at 05:14 PM

What do you mean Lyndsay?

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94480caec9fbbaacc386d86a45efa720

(1007)

on January 21, 2013
at 06:05 PM

Yes, right after I added another egg and perhaps another ounce or two of protein at lunch. Do you track your protein? I'm 5'5" and struggling to not go underweight and to get my DV of protein eating 1600 calories approx daily while not very active except a 30 minute walk most days. I mean, I'm a different age and in different circumstances, etc but that does not seem like enough food to me either.

94480caec9fbbaacc386d86a45efa720

(1007)

on January 22, 2013
at 02:52 PM

Also, fry those eggs in some butter or something, girl. damn.

94480caec9fbbaacc386d86a45efa720

(1007)

on January 22, 2013
at 03:07 AM

I eat more protein than you do and a bit of fruit. I usually have some blueberries a couple of times a week or some other berries. I have an apple every few days with a meal. Other fruits I rotate in what's in season. Lately pomegranate, tangerine or orange (a half), mango. I don't do potato often but sweet potato or rice or peas. I'm 128#. I eat some nuts for snacks sometimes, mostly cashews and almonds.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 21, 2013
at 06:09 PM

I generally use a palmful of protein per meal. I'm 5'3 120-125. I was doing pilates every morning before work, but I'm struggling with energy. Did you add potato and fruit with meals or alone?

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C9109c7e0d495ff997c70e0a6b3ba6ef

on January 21, 2013
at 04:27 PM

I think the first question is what are your fitness goals... how often do you want to work out? Do you want to maintain, lose, or gain? Also it looks like less than 1200 calories to me.... which is not healthy I think that you need more nutrition to fuel exercise... once again your fitness goals dictate what type of calories you should add to your diet.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 21, 2013
at 04:48 PM

Okay, got my account back. I have tracked my food into fitday, so I know how many calories I consume. I am also full on this amount. I am looking to increase energy for exercise.

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