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No Fruit Causing Digestive Problems?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 03, 2011 at 9:19 PM

I've been doing a 30 day paleo challenge and I cut out fruit hoping to see a greater reduction in body fat. Ever since I cut out fruit I've been having, to put it mildly, digestive trouble (read: something like diarrhea) every morning. I cut out fruit about 3 weeks ago and I haven't really seen the reduction in body fat that I was hoping for but in the hopes that my body fat reduction was just taking its sweet time I have persisted with no fruit. Should I add some fruit back in to see if it helps my digestion? Which fruit? How much?

I've been really happy having cut out fruit because it has really helped get rid of my sugar cravings.

Also, I'd love to hear any thoughts on why I might not be losing body fat too...I'm a student and get a somewhat solid 7-8 hours of sleep every night and exercise 6-8x/week.

7dccf675d204513a940bab58dd251863

on February 05, 2011
at 11:41 PM

No, I'm not taking a magnesium supplement. I was eating some coconut products...though maybe I was eating smaller quantities...

76f3ead3aa977d876bcf3331d35a36e9

(4620)

on February 04, 2011
at 06:22 PM

Are you, by chance, taking any magnesium supplementation? Also, before your digestive trouble started, were you eating coconut meat/milk with no problems?

8e75344356f4a455185ee52da0b90bf2

on February 04, 2011
at 01:19 PM

Pretty good. This was done in July 2010 when I was 45 and about 3 years Paleo: Total: 164 HDL: 96 Trig: 34 LDL: 61

92549e74c37aed4d5930b22e910dcf22

(382)

on February 04, 2011
at 01:14 PM

Not sure about Fiber making things worse, I haven't read that. But you should try it. Anytime you have a issue like that it is more than likely due to an inbalance in your body. Anyways, Cavegirl you should consider taking a down week, up the calories, let your body reset.

58ad12421c64e4eb671f7725f257ea1d

(30)

on February 04, 2011
at 08:41 AM

Jebb, sure happens with bananas too.

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on February 04, 2011
at 05:54 AM

The tricky part is if you cut out a food, like fruit, then typically you will end up eating more of the other foods, so that would mean more fat and more protein. With eating, it's impossible to control all variables. If you don't replace the carb with some other food, then your caloric intake will drop sharply. I do think fat could be the issue, but if you've not had probs with fat previously, and the fruit intake is the main thing to have changed, seems like that is your most likely first bet for the cause.

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on February 04, 2011
at 05:51 AM

Interesting. Might truly be some kind of fructose malabsorption then. Or perhaps some kind of gut flora bloom. I wonder does it happen even with bananas?

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on February 04, 2011
at 05:50 AM

SOme people have that in the beginning, but for most, it passes with time (scuz the pun). For some, it takes the body a while to regain the natural bowel contractions that move along the food just fine even without fiber.

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on February 04, 2011
at 05:49 AM

LMAO! The only evidence I've ever seen for fiber helping is with constipation. Doesn't sound like she has that. If you ask me the whole fiber thing is way overblown. In fact, fiber has been implicated in increasing many digestive problems instead of improving them. (only good for constipation)

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on February 04, 2011
at 05:47 AM

This was my thought as well. SOme people, especially those who exercise a LOT, seem to have probs on very low carb.

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on February 04, 2011
at 05:44 AM

I don't believe anyone can tell what amount of sleep is healthier for another person. If you sleep all you want and wake up rested, you are getting enough sleep. Some people need 6 hours and some need 10. You can't tell someone else what is required without evening knowing them!

D10ca8d11301c2f4993ac2279ce4b930

(5242)

on February 04, 2011
at 03:04 AM

I eat a couple pieces of fruit a day. But the bulk of my carbs are starches. I'm trying to add some weight so I also allow myself to eat white rice which is recommended in Paul Jaminet's Perfect Health Diet.

7dccf675d204513a940bab58dd251863

on February 04, 2011
at 01:16 AM

And I take one rest day a week

7dccf675d204513a940bab58dd251863

on February 04, 2011
at 01:06 AM

I'm not taking any fish oil right now. The fruit was the only change in my diet which is why I thought that perhaps it was the root of the issue. I had been on and off paleo in the past but this was the first time I eliminated fruit from my diet.

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(39831)

on February 04, 2011
at 12:23 AM

4 years is an admirable stretch...what does your lipid panel look like?

7dccf675d204513a940bab58dd251863

on February 03, 2011
at 11:14 PM

How much more are you suggesting I get?

7dccf675d204513a940bab58dd251863

on February 03, 2011
at 10:58 PM

This is about my fourth week training with this exact combination but I've been training at around (maybe slightly lower) this intensity for about 2-3 months.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22923)

on February 03, 2011
at 10:34 PM

especially with that much exercise!!! exercise LESS. Sleep MORE.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22923)

on February 03, 2011
at 10:33 PM

7-8 hours, unless very high quality sleep is not enough.

92549e74c37aed4d5930b22e910dcf22

(382)

on February 03, 2011
at 10:29 PM

ok, now how long have you been doing this type of work week? When is the last time you gave yourself a week to recover or to refeed? Both are important in order to reach low BF%

7dccf675d204513a940bab58dd251863

on February 03, 2011
at 10:16 PM

I don't track my intake but I'll look into that. Typical Week of Training: Crossfit 4x/week Swimming 1x/week Rowing (50min varied intensities) 1x/week Short Run (2-3mi) 1x/week I might throw in some yoga too.

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(39831)

on February 03, 2011
at 10:08 PM

None of that really stands out, except that brassicas cause digestive issues for me. I would replace any brassicas with spinach for a few days and see if it helps. If I eat a serving of broccoli, I have digestive issues, but 2 cups of spinach a day don't affect me.

Medium avatar

(39831)

on February 03, 2011
at 10:08 PM

None of that really stands out, except that brassicas cause digestive issues for me. I would replace any brassicas with spinach for a few days and see if it helps. If I eat a serving of broccoli, I 2 cups of spinach a day don't affect me.

50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

(5838)

on February 03, 2011
at 09:56 PM

Looks decent enough, to be honest. Except with all that exercise, perhaps not.

50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

(5838)

on February 03, 2011
at 09:55 PM

I'd try the starchy carbs before the fruit

7dccf675d204513a940bab58dd251863

on February 03, 2011
at 09:39 PM

So do you think I should add in some fruit or try to get carbs from starchy veggies or just adjust the focus of my meals to vegetables?

7dccf675d204513a940bab58dd251863

on February 03, 2011
at 09:32 PM

I have no idea what my daily caloric intake is...I really hate keeping a food journal haha but if you see my comment on Travis' comment you can see a very basic breakdown of what an average day might look like for me in terms of food choices.

7dccf675d204513a940bab58dd251863

on February 03, 2011
at 09:30 PM

That's what I thought at first too but it's the only change that I made and has persisted since I cut it out...that being said a random day might look like this... Example Day: Breakfast: 3 eggs, 2-3 slices bacon, maybe a little avocado or spinach Lunch: Salmon w broccoli and cauliflower sauteed in coconut oil Snack: some coconut meat or carrots w/almond butter Dinner: Spaghetti Squash w/ Pork Sausage, Tomato Sauce, Basil, tea w/ coconut milk

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8e75344356f4a455185ee52da0b90bf2

on February 03, 2011
at 11:22 PM

Personally, I haven't had a single bite of fruit in any form - no juice, no dried fruit, no berries, nothing, in 4 years with no digestive problems. (My diet consists of meat, fat, eggs, a very small amt of dairy, and veg - all brassicas)

Have you considered the coconut? The oil plus the meat plus the milk might be doing it. Coconut in any form (milk or meat) other than cooking with the oil will give me the runs BAD!

Best of luck in figuring it out! Digestive trouble SUCKS!

Medium avatar

(39831)

on February 04, 2011
at 12:23 AM

4 years is an admirable stretch...what does your lipid panel look like?

8e75344356f4a455185ee52da0b90bf2

on February 04, 2011
at 01:19 PM

Pretty good. This was done in July 2010 when I was 45 and about 3 years Paleo: Total: 164 HDL: 96 Trig: 34 LDL: 61

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7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

on February 04, 2011
at 12:27 AM

My sister gets diarrhea when she eats too much fat. It doesn't seem like you are eating too much fat, but your body may need a slower ramp up with it.

Also? Are you taking any fish oil? That can cause this type of problem too. Are there any other things that you changed at the same time as dropping the fruit?

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on February 04, 2011
at 05:54 AM

The tricky part is if you cut out a food, like fruit, then typically you will end up eating more of the other foods, so that would mean more fat and more protein. With eating, it's impossible to control all variables. If you don't replace the carb with some other food, then your caloric intake will drop sharply. I do think fat could be the issue, but if you've not had probs with fat previously, and the fruit intake is the main thing to have changed, seems like that is your most likely first bet for the cause.

7dccf675d204513a940bab58dd251863

on February 04, 2011
at 01:06 AM

I'm not taking any fish oil right now. The fruit was the only change in my diet which is why I thought that perhaps it was the root of the issue. I had been on and off paleo in the past but this was the first time I eliminated fruit from my diet.

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58ad12421c64e4eb671f7725f257ea1d

(30)

on February 03, 2011
at 11:00 PM

Personally fruit makes my digestion worse, if I eat more than about 1 piece of fruit a day I get all gassy and get stomach pains.

58ad12421c64e4eb671f7725f257ea1d

(30)

on February 04, 2011
at 08:41 AM

Jebb, sure happens with bananas too.

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on February 04, 2011
at 05:51 AM

Interesting. Might truly be some kind of fructose malabsorption then. Or perhaps some kind of gut flora bloom. I wonder does it happen even with bananas?

1
50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

(5838)

on February 03, 2011
at 09:22 PM

At first glance, too much exercise. What is your daily calric intake, and what is that made up of?

Need more info

7dccf675d204513a940bab58dd251863

on February 03, 2011
at 09:32 PM

I have no idea what my daily caloric intake is...I really hate keeping a food journal haha but if you see my comment on Travis' comment you can see a very basic breakdown of what an average day might look like for me in terms of food choices.

50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

(5838)

on February 03, 2011
at 09:56 PM

Looks decent enough, to be honest. Except with all that exercise, perhaps not.

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5f2b8e0a671b7eaae8a6bd97f0ded166

(120)

on February 07, 2011
at 09:16 AM

What kind of fruits you used to eat. Fruits like apple and banana have major influence in gut flora and stool formation.

Rashed

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58cc17a77bca6e503dcf6bf6471b76a1

(478)

on February 03, 2011
at 10:49 PM

I need to add more fruits in my diet as well. I cut it out before and I had digestion problem (read:a little constipated). Since I generally don't have sweet tooth craving nor I'm looking to lose weight (in fact I'm looking to gain muscle mass by being primal), I added fruits back into my diet :)

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on February 04, 2011
at 05:50 AM

SOme people have that in the beginning, but for most, it passes with time (scuz the pun). For some, it takes the body a while to regain the natural bowel contractions that move along the food just fine even without fiber.

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92549e74c37aed4d5930b22e910dcf22

(382)

on February 03, 2011
at 09:54 PM

Ok man, this is easy. You need more fiber. How much Fiber are you getting now? Are you tracking your intake? If not I suggest Fitday and a rough means of figuring out how much you are really getting in.

The answer to your question about BF is in your original post. "I work out 6-8x/week".

I bet you are undereating for your activity level which will lead to overtraining. You are basically shocking your body into a state where it doesn't know when the next meal is going to come if it ever does, so it will hold on to those last fat stores in case of emergency.

Want to lay out your training for us?

7dccf675d204513a940bab58dd251863

on February 03, 2011
at 10:58 PM

This is about my fourth week training with this exact combination but I've been training at around (maybe slightly lower) this intensity for about 2-3 months.

7dccf675d204513a940bab58dd251863

on February 04, 2011
at 01:16 AM

And I take one rest day a week

7dccf675d204513a940bab58dd251863

on February 03, 2011
at 10:16 PM

I don't track my intake but I'll look into that. Typical Week of Training: Crossfit 4x/week Swimming 1x/week Rowing (50min varied intensities) 1x/week Short Run (2-3mi) 1x/week I might throw in some yoga too.

92549e74c37aed4d5930b22e910dcf22

(382)

on February 04, 2011
at 01:14 PM

Not sure about Fiber making things worse, I haven't read that. But you should try it. Anytime you have a issue like that it is more than likely due to an inbalance in your body. Anyways, Cavegirl you should consider taking a down week, up the calories, let your body reset.

92549e74c37aed4d5930b22e910dcf22

(382)

on February 03, 2011
at 10:29 PM

ok, now how long have you been doing this type of work week? When is the last time you gave yourself a week to recover or to refeed? Both are important in order to reach low BF%

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on February 04, 2011
at 05:49 AM

LMAO! The only evidence I've ever seen for fiber helping is with constipation. Doesn't sound like she has that. If you ask me the whole fiber thing is way overblown. In fact, fiber has been implicated in increasing many digestive problems instead of improving them. (only good for constipation)

0
D10ca8d11301c2f4993ac2279ce4b930

(5242)

on February 03, 2011
at 09:36 PM

My digestion goes to shit if I don't get enough carbs. Excessive fat intake can also cause digestive problems at first.

7dccf675d204513a940bab58dd251863

on February 03, 2011
at 09:39 PM

So do you think I should add in some fruit or try to get carbs from starchy veggies or just adjust the focus of my meals to vegetables?

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on February 04, 2011
at 05:47 AM

This was my thought as well. SOme people, especially those who exercise a LOT, seem to have probs on very low carb.

D10ca8d11301c2f4993ac2279ce4b930

(5242)

on February 04, 2011
at 03:04 AM

I eat a couple pieces of fruit a day. But the bulk of my carbs are starches. I'm trying to add some weight so I also allow myself to eat white rice which is recommended in Paul Jaminet's Perfect Health Diet.

50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

(5838)

on February 03, 2011
at 09:55 PM

I'd try the starchy carbs before the fruit

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Medium avatar

on February 03, 2011
at 09:24 PM

This seems like an almost impossible result of cutting out fruit. What does your diet look like?

Medium avatar

(39831)

on February 03, 2011
at 10:08 PM

None of that really stands out, except that brassicas cause digestive issues for me. I would replace any brassicas with spinach for a few days and see if it helps. If I eat a serving of broccoli, I have digestive issues, but 2 cups of spinach a day don't affect me.

Medium avatar

(39831)

on February 03, 2011
at 10:08 PM

None of that really stands out, except that brassicas cause digestive issues for me. I would replace any brassicas with spinach for a few days and see if it helps. If I eat a serving of broccoli, I 2 cups of spinach a day don't affect me.

7dccf675d204513a940bab58dd251863

on February 03, 2011
at 09:30 PM

That's what I thought at first too but it's the only change that I made and has persisted since I cut it out...that being said a random day might look like this... Example Day: Breakfast: 3 eggs, 2-3 slices bacon, maybe a little avocado or spinach Lunch: Salmon w broccoli and cauliflower sauteed in coconut oil Snack: some coconut meat or carrots w/almond butter Dinner: Spaghetti Squash w/ Pork Sausage, Tomato Sauce, Basil, tea w/ coconut milk

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