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Fruits in first 30 days when severly overweight

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Created September 28, 2012 at 6:07 PM

Okay so I've bought in and decided to give this a try to see how it might help. I am active but fat and as I enjoy lifting weights and know that many athletes eat Paleo I though why not. My question is will it severly impair me to eat a serving of fruit a day? Or should I try to stick to the veggies/lean meats/good fats?

So far I am feeling better. Insomnia gone, not hungry all the time and I really don't care what the scale says but I do know that I need to shed weight in order to be as active as I would like.

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on September 28, 2012
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Bread and Pasta aren't really carb cravings in my book. Given the exorphin content of grains I'd suspect that is more opiate driven then metabolically driven. Interestingly, I was the same way. At 450 I could eat 6-8 cups of brown rice a day (It was healthy ya know) along with a breakfast smoothie (really healthy) and lots of veggies. Skinny vegitarians? I wish.

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I guess I should add - Once you are lean and healthy knock yourself out.

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on September 28, 2012
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Which is great if you are insulin sensitive and lean. If you are overweight and insulin resistant a high fructose diet will just keep screwing up your blood sugar.

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on September 28, 2012
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The key to successful weight loss is increasing the satiety:energy ratio of your food. It just so happens that whole fruit has an advantageous ratio. If you eat an apple, you don't get hours of satiety, but you also aren't ingesting hundreds of kcals. As stated below, it shouldn't be an issue unless sweet tastes lead to an overall increase in kcals. Personally, I feel the avoidance of whole fruit to be a failing of most paleo diets.

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on September 28, 2012
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Fruit should not be a problem in moderation. It may, in fact, allow you to feel more comfortable with your meals in general. If you do have sugar addiction issues, that would be a different story.

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at 06:38 PM

How about an N=1? Try eliminating fruit for a reasonable period of time (2 weeks?) and see what happens when you add it back in. Then you'll know.

The kind of fruit you're eating may make a difference, too. Small amounts of low glycemic fruits like berries and melon may not have much impact, but high glycemic fruits like bananas may derail any weight loss. You can experiment with that too, perhaps adding one type of fruit in at a time.

There's no magic to the first 30 days unless you're trying to get into ketosis, in which case high glycemic fruit will derail you at any point when you add it in.

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on September 28, 2012
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I've lost over 150lbs on Paleo so I've been there. My N=1, and based on all the mistakes I made would say -

30 days, Low-carb Paleo. As low as you can go and not binge.

30 days, add back in moderate starch

30 days, add back in 1/2 - 1 cup of berries a day, as desired.

Too much fruit will keep you insulin resistant even if it won't cause insulin resistance.

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on September 28, 2012
at 10:46 PM

I guess I should add - Once you are lean and healthy knock yourself out.

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on September 28, 2012
at 06:23 PM

Honestly, I wouldn't eat fruit yet.

I started from scratch. I'm only 21 y/o and a normal weight (low side of normal- wasting from celiac's my whole life - till last year!)

I'm looking to add muscle myself. If I eat more than 1/2 cup of fruit, it will trigger my sugar addiction. I can handle it now, but I couldn't when I started. If I were you, I would stick with the no-fruit thing for at least 30 days.

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on September 28, 2012
at 08:48 PM

Thanks everyone especially LikesLarinMayo congrats on your loss I have lost about the same but still need 50 more to go to be comfortably happy.

I haven't gone out shopping yet so I will not get fruits and try for at least a couple weeks without them once I finish the two small melons I have at home. I don't really have a sweet tooth I have a carb tooth so it's the bread and pasta that are the big issue but totally doable. That said sometimes my body just really wants fruit I don't know why but I will go through a kick and it would be nice to indulge. That said I am fine with limiting myself for awhile if that's the way to get the best results.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 28, 2012
at 10:49 PM

Bread and Pasta aren't really carb cravings in my book. Given the exorphin content of grains I'd suspect that is more opiate driven then metabolically driven. Interestingly, I was the same way. At 450 I could eat 6-8 cups of brown rice a day (It was healthy ya know) along with a breakfast smoothie (really healthy) and lots of veggies. Skinny vegitarians? I wish.

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on September 28, 2012
at 08:08 PM

Personally, I had to go through a phase of eating very little if any fruit. I think there is a benefit to starting lower carb, and then working your way back up as you heal. I can now handle it just fine, and even eat fruit by itself and be satiated for hours, but a year ago that was not the deal at all.

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