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Do you consider fruit cheating?

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Created March 15, 2011 at 4:51 PM

When I first started Paleo, I was told that all fruits are considered "cheats". I continued to eat fruit anyways. For awhile I stopped eating fruit. Lately as I've gotten back into fruit eating...I've noticed MASSIVE insulin spikes...to the degree that I'm almost about to pass out.

Specifically from Yellow fruits like bananas and yellow fruit based products like...

Trader Joe's Vacuum Fried Banana chips or Trader Joe's Dried Baby Sweet Pineapple

I've noticed I don't have this problems with red grapes, blueberries or blackberries...

Eating yellow fruits made my insulin spike worse than eating pizza, thai noodles or wine. Now I'm really nervous about fruits...because of the mass insulin spikes accompanied with feelings of EXTREME fatigue

What's the deal with fruit and what should I really try to avoid?

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on April 16, 2011
at 09:25 PM

Hmm ok,that's what I gathered from the book "breaking the vicious cycle" from the SCDiet,which is kinda similar to Paleo,only with fermented dairy.

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on April 16, 2011
at 06:46 PM

Joey, I think you may have gotten that backwards. As the banana ripens, the starch breaks down into sugars, and that's why they get sweeter as they age. As soon as my bananas start to yellow, I throw them into the fridge to prevent further ripening. Brown, spotty bananas are simply too sweet for me. :)

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on April 16, 2011
at 04:31 PM

Did you eat the banana when it was still bright yellow? If so,the next time try a banana when overly ripe(with the brown spots on the shell already). Green/yellowish bananas contain a lot of sugar,ripe beananas contain less sugar as they've gotten more starchy throughout the riping process,

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on April 16, 2011
at 03:18 AM

And how do you know you have exceeded your liver glycogen stores.

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on April 16, 2011
at 02:46 AM

I'd caution not exceeding your liver glycogen stores for fear o generating significant extra Advanced Glycation endproducts.

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on March 15, 2011
at 05:16 PM

Oh, yes.... I ate an apple the other day and besides the "spike" I was so nauseous, gross, only have frozen berries = 1/2 or less every few days.

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on March 15, 2011
at 05:04 PM

Dried fruit contains too much sugar!

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on March 15, 2011
at 05:15 PM

Not a cheat but a treat. Fruit is one option in my toolbox to help keep me happy and on the path.

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on March 15, 2011
at 05:09 PM

Fruit is a cheat for me because I cut them out for weight loss. However, I've also used fruit to help stave off a worse cheat, like candy or bakery.

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on March 15, 2011
at 05:05 PM

I myself don't consider fruit cheating, but I try to limit apples, dates, and tropical stuff because they are so sugary. If you are concerned about insulin spike, I'd avoid fruits, or just stick with having berries in moderation. Just avoid what makes you feel bad.

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on March 15, 2011
at 05:32 PM

I don't consider it a cheat. I try to avoid apples; however, I eat about one or two a week. I mainly stick with berries as much as possible. Dates are a treat once in a blue moon. My mother in law was in Florida this pas week and brought back oranges so I'm not passing on those. Nothing like Florida citrus. Especially after a WOD. So for me, fruit is not cheating. I think the body needs variety every now and then.

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on April 16, 2011
at 02:47 AM

I would only consider fruit a cheat depending on what my fitness/health goals were. Since I'm trying to lose fat (on my body not my food lol) I'll try to stay clear of fruit as much as possible. Still, bananas are pretty starchy (though I think they are delicious and effective post-work out) and I would definitely worry about any fruit I didn't dehydrate myself because of all the added sugar/chemicals some companies put in them.

Still, I think your reaction to fruit/starchy and overly sweet fruit can answer you own question. If it makes you feel that bad, then I would avoid it all together.

Still, that being said, you can't really beat a delicious mango.

Berries are lower on the glycemic index scale, maybe that's why. Shoot for the fruit that won't cause huge insulin spikes (you could find a list on this website or online better than any list I could come up with).

Don't worry about a small amount of fruit, it's delicious and, when you feel awful after eating certain ones, you'll not eat them.

Good luck!

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on April 16, 2011
at 02:36 AM

I have a grape vine in my back yard. When the grapes mature I have every intention of picking and eating them. I don't consider that a cheat.

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on April 16, 2011
at 02:17 AM

Banana chips? LOL OF COURSE THAT'S A CHEAT.

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on March 15, 2011
at 05:31 PM

I absolutely don't consider fruit a cheat, it is part of my nutritional plan.

I eat 1 serving of fruit most days, sometimes 2 servings if it is a lower sugar fruit like berries or melon. I try to keep my carbs at or below 75 per day, so I just have to balance it with the rest of my meals for the day if I want more fruit.

I have small amounts of organic, unsweetened dried fruit, that I get at the health food store in my trail mix most days. That is usually dried cranberries or a dried berry mix. This week though, it was pineapple.

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on March 15, 2011
at 05:09 PM

I don't think I have insulin problem so I don't cut out completely from my diet. I love fruits in most kinds (apples, oranges, berries, pineapples etc)..banana is the only one that I usually avoid b/c I always get that hunger pang after eating it hours later. -

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on March 15, 2011
at 05:08 PM

"Do you consider fruit cheating?" vs. "What's the deal with fruit and what should I really try to avoid?" are very different questions in my opinion.

For the second one, search tags for fruit and fructose.

If your body is telling you something is bad (feelings of EXTREME fatigue) don't eat it, no matter how "superfoodish" it might be.

Personally, I do find bananas (pretty much the only fruit I eat in the winter) sub optimal.

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on April 16, 2011
at 02:45 AM

I eat moderate quantities of berries without stressing and feel good eating them.

Modernized high fructose fruits leave me feeling like crap, just like sugar.

If you're trying to lose weight I recommend avoiding, and then reintroduce and see how they affect your mood energy weight etc.

Some fruits digest differently too. I've found I handle(and love) pineapple with a high protein meal, but hit the insulin roller coaster of doom if I eat it solo.

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on April 16, 2011
at 02:16 AM

Why would fruit be a cheat? I eat personally 5 servings there abouts per day. Would a caveman who found 3 apples say "oh iv already eaten some berries today, Il pass on these?" Hell no! Granted im a serious athlete age 19 but still, the idea of the paleo diet is to eat like a caveman aka eat as much as you want as long as it is paleo and your comfortable with it.

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on April 16, 2011
at 03:18 AM

And how do you know you have exceeded your liver glycogen stores.

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on April 16, 2011
at 02:46 AM

I'd caution not exceeding your liver glycogen stores for fear o generating significant extra Advanced Glycation endproducts.

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on March 15, 2011
at 06:08 PM

In "The Paleo Diet for Atletes" dosent it say to eat a piece of fruit right after a workout to replenish glycogen? I've been eating fruit only after a hard workout based on this belief. I could be totally wrong.

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