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Morton's Toe and finger length

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 04, 2012 at 9:27 PM

http://shell.newpaltz.edu/jsec/articles/volume4/issue4/HarrisonVol4Iss4.pdf

My second toe is longer than my big toe on both feet. My ring fingers are also longer than my index fingers. I came across the above referenced article that indicates the cause may be related to hormonal exposure in utero.

I am curious to know how many in the paleosphere have this characteristic and if you believe it could be a predictior of behavior or pain/disease issues. For the record, I have not experienced any problems with my feet and I would not consider myself to have alot of testosterone driven behaviors such as aggressiveness.

thanks.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on November 01, 2012
at 02:02 PM

Wow, I'm pretty sure marital success and men's life length does not hinge on the length of your second toe. I would look to other reasons. Probably loads of happily successful partners with long toes out there.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 10, 2012
at 05:29 PM

Frustration =/= assertiveness

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 10, 2012
at 05:19 PM

Everyone bragging about how intense and aggressive they are is bragging about having high estrogen levels. Ya'll have PMS...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 10, 2012
at 05:18 PM

For example, testosterone induced aggression is concurrent with an elevated level of aromatization and nuclear estrogen receptor activity in the hypothalamic/preoptic area. Treatment with an aromatase inhibitor blocked this aggression and lowered nuclear activated estrogen receptors (34,35). Furthermore the intensity of aggressive behaviour was directly correlated with the aromatase activity (p < 0.02) in the posterior hypothalamus (34).

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 10, 2012
at 05:17 PM

http://www.med.mcgill.ca/mjm/v06n01/v06p032/v06p032.pdf

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 10, 2012
at 05:12 PM

Tell me you didn't just suggest that women are naturally bad at math unless they are mannish. Yeah, feminism is dead.

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on July 05, 2012
at 07:12 PM

I have both as well. I am very competitive, but not at all aggressive. This study strikes me as a load of horse-pucky.

E1e798ccd4eed67665652941b9ef7796

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on July 05, 2012
at 01:00 PM

I just re-read the finger thing, I do have that too (my ring finger is longer than index)!

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on July 05, 2012
at 12:23 PM

Got my upvote for the first use of the tag "fetish".

46c9fbd45b82453f6a2dfe614a853314

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on July 04, 2012
at 11:35 PM

He doesn't say middle finger - he says index finger (aka your pointer).

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61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

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on July 04, 2012
at 10:19 PM

Have the toes, not the fingers. I can be very aggressive, but have mellowed some over the years (my hubby has helped me see it isn't necessary to win every battle or be in charge all of the time) and am even more so since going Paleo. Sure, I still have an Irish temper, but not as frequently.

We call those "smart toes" in my family. Dad and all of us kids have them; Mom does not. She has what Dad lovingly refers to as "Barney Rubble feet." My hubby and both of my kids have them, too.

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on July 04, 2012
at 10:06 PM

Now that you've mentioned it, I do have a longer 2nd toe than the big toe. Ring finger's aren't longer than middle finger, though, not quite sure what that correlates to.

I tend to be very competitive, more so after having gone paleo, but also a lot calmer and chilled out.

46c9fbd45b82453f6a2dfe614a853314

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on July 04, 2012
at 11:35 PM

He doesn't say middle finger - he says index finger (aka your pointer).

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on August 06, 2013
at 11:19 AM

The longer second toe is also called the Greek foot. considered they ideal shape by ancient greeks. The idea stems from ancient esoteric traditions. Mercurius Ter Maximus or Hermetis Trismagisti or Thoth Hermes Trismagistus or Thrice great Hermes" Tis true with out lying, certain and most true, that which is above is like that which is below and that which is below is like that which is above". In other words the idea of polarity, rythm, cause and effect, vibration, gender, cortespondance and mentalism. a longer second toe generally indicated a slightly more masculine characteristic a shorter indicated slightly more feminine. for example a female with a longer second toe with a man with a shorter second toe, may indicate the female has slightly more dominant characteristics and the man slightly more submissive and all the variatons in between. its not exact but using the above principles, one can with in reason perform a sort of mental alchemy to undertand that which is hidden. a certain level of prognostication is possible. These studies are hardly new, just new to us. they stem from ancient mystery and esoteric traditions we no longer have. As the jinglebolouxes burned down they alexadrian library. Nothing new under they sun. two different shaped feet, or both feet have different characteristics, may indicate bi polar tendancies.

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on November 01, 2012
at 03:59 PM

I have both, the toes, and fingers, but my looks are ultrafeminine, I have big lips, big eyes, small nose, and chin, big boobs, small frame, no hair on legs even. I do like all kinds of girly stuff too. So, I don't think that I have high testosterone because my features are from high estrogen, and progesterone?

My character is very competetive though, maybe aggressive (?), I'm not violent per se, but I do defend myself when necessary, for example when the school bully tried to bully me when I was 7 I beat him up so badly his face was black and blue (I've always been like this, and I still am). We were best friends after that though, my best friends were always boys when growing up, but I did get along with girls too.

I've always given credit to my parents for my character development, I was never forced to be a "good girl" etc. after the bully incident for example my dad was just proud of me, that I had defended myself. Maybe the morton thing has had something to do with it though?

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on November 01, 2012
at 02:00 PM

"For women only, relationships between a longer second toe and a competitiveness orientation, a winning orientation, and physical aggression were found. For men only, a relationship between a longer second toe and exercise frequency was found. There was no association between second toe length and sociosexual orientation or sexual orientation for either sex." (Marissa Harrison)

....so it makes sense that you don't feel testosterone driven. And anyways, "Since testosterone is present in males that are not aggressive as well as in those that are, it is obvious that another factor(s) is involved, such as cognition and environmental circumstances which have been found to affect the expression of aggression (60,92)." (Katherine Simpson)

I can't help but think these studies are probably overgeneralized. I've had very aggressive friends who I know for sure don't have this (females) and my ultra competitive in sports dad who exercises all the time doesn't have this. I'm sure there are millions of other exceptions.

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on November 01, 2012
at 12:43 PM

I have mortons toe caused by first metatarsal being short. Saw a programme about index and ring fingers. On men it tends to be that the ring is longer than the index, woman the other way around.

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on September 10, 2012
at 04:46 AM

i have a little bit longer second toe and when i saw the women with long second toe they are not happy with their husbands and often i saw they don't have happy life and their husbands die or they divorced. is it true? if any one know please let me know because mine is also like that and i am still single.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on November 01, 2012
at 02:02 PM

Wow, I'm pretty sure marital success and men's life length does not hinge on the length of your second toe. I would look to other reasons. Probably loads of happily successful partners with long toes out there.

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C0237fd9e277fcef496d538beda1f35b

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on July 05, 2012
at 07:48 PM

I have both the fingers and toes. I suppose I was tomboy-ish when I was younger, but really I just played with all the kids on my street and we skated and rode our bikes everywhere.

I'm no where near being tomboyish now. I love me some manipedi's. However I am very active, though my bike is pink with a basket.

I was pretty boy crazy once I hit high school. Other girls seemed to hit it a little earlier than I did. I was pretty late hitting puberty though. Around 15 years old. I was always very slender though, so that may have applied.

So now I love cooking, and shopping, and doing laundry. My husband and I mentally compete against each other though. We're both nerds. Raising two more nerds :)

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on July 05, 2012
at 06:46 PM

I have the fingers and the toes. I'm very competitive but not particularly agressive. Though I do anger or frustrate easily (is that the same thing?).

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 10, 2012
at 05:29 PM

Frustration =/= assertiveness

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on July 05, 2012
at 06:24 PM

Yes fingers, no toes. Tomboy as a child. Not particularly aggressive, can be competitive (mostly at brain games). Oh, and gay.

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E1e798ccd4eed67665652941b9ef7796

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on July 05, 2012
at 12:59 PM

I have Morton's toe, but not finger. Btw, it's not necessarily indicated by length of toe/ finger, but the relation of that toe/finger joint. i.e. on feet - the 2nd toe joint is in front of (i.e. further from heel) relative to the big toe joint. So, while I have Morton's toe, my 2nd toe appears to be the same length as my big toe. What this means is that your foot doesn't balance properly on the 'tripod' of big toe - little toe - heel. This can lead to biomechanical issues, especially for runners, as those with Morton's toe tend to roll foot either in or out, thus causing some muscles to overwork while others weaken.

You can help alleviate Morton's toe by placing taping under the ball of the big toe only. I use a four-thickness strip of kinesiotape under both of mine. This is often discussed re. barefoot running.

Re. the personality tendencies. I'm horribly competitive, can be quick to anger, was a classic 'tom-boy' growing up, was often chastised for 'being un-ladylike' when I was a teenager, and it is frequently joked (by gay friends) that I'd make a great lesbian (if only I was attracted to women), as apparently I exhibit lots of stereotypical lesbian tendencies (I fix my own bike, I like herbal tea and I am fond of comfortable shoes). And before anyone gets offended, I'm not agreeing with these stereotypes, just reporting how certain friends perceive me.

E1e798ccd4eed67665652941b9ef7796

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on July 05, 2012
at 01:00 PM

I just re-read the finger thing, I do have that too (my ring finger is longer than index)!

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on July 05, 2012
at 02:49 AM

My neighbor's daughter has the fingers. She looks a lot more like the husband, and has more masculine facial features. She also is more science/math inclined, much more factual and less of a non-structured thinker. Not sure about competitive.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 10, 2012
at 05:12 PM

Tell me you didn't just suggest that women are naturally bad at math unless they are mannish. Yeah, feminism is dead.

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on July 04, 2012
at 11:36 PM

I have both characteristics and am a highly competitive and aggressive person...I also (very unfortunately) have a LOT of facial hair for a female and wax all the time. It is disgusting.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on July 05, 2012
at 07:12 PM

I have both as well. I am very competitive, but not at all aggressive. This study strikes me as a load of horse-pucky.

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