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Does the healing take place mostly because Paleo is a grain free, daily free, sugar free diet. Hard to believe that full fat organic meats aid in the healing process.

Commented on October 24, 2013
Created October 16, 2013 at 11:51 PM

Does the healing take place mostly because Paleo is a grain free, daily free, sugar free diet. Hard to believe that full fat organic meats aid in the healing process.

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on October 24, 2013
at 03:47 PM

+1 for the most useful answer.

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on October 24, 2013
at 03:44 PM

Fat literally keeps you alive if its the only thing you have to eat. It's one of 3 macros, don't oversell it.

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on October 23, 2013
at 11:53 PM

I too, eat only grass fed meats but do not do any sugar, dairy or grains. What you are doing is great if it works and obviously it is. I have a serious and deadly autoimmune disease so I have a much stricter protocol. for now.

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on October 18, 2013
at 01:26 AM

USDA only has values for CAFO meat, those animals have no vitamin D, much less vit. A, and K2 is not measured. You will have to google it. probably eatwild.com has numbers.

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on October 18, 2013
at 12:23 AM

hi @glib you mention tallow & lard & vits A, D, K, where can i find out the vitamin info (A, D, K etc) on fats such as lard & tallow.

i have checked the usda database, but that only shows levels of Vitamin E in these fats, for all other vitamins it indicates zero

56c28e3654d4dd8a8abdb2c1f525202e

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on October 17, 2013
at 11:37 PM

enough O3 to make the 1 gram daily intake. It has to be grass fed of course, not just organic. Grass fed is 3-7% of fat calories (measurements vary widely). It is not small. In fact, 1/2 lb of meat that is 50% fat by calories will give you that gram.

Tallow, lard, cheese and egg yolks (all pastured) all contain vit. A and D, and K2.

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on October 17, 2013
at 08:06 PM

@raydawg would that not be ......

"healthy human is a sexual human" ;)

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on October 17, 2013
at 01:57 PM

Animal fats don't have that much more vitamins than plant fats.

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on October 17, 2013
at 01:32 PM

ruminant meat contains so little O3 that it is almost a wash. Offal are fantastic for vitamins and minerals.

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on October 17, 2013
at 01:30 PM

Pretty good answer. Avoid toxins. However, there is a hormonal aspect to the paleo philosophy too.

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on October 17, 2013
at 12:04 PM

Believe me, I know without a doubt that grass fed and organic meats is the only way to go. I just wanted to know how even the healthy fats work to our advantage and many of you have answered that for me.

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on October 17, 2013
at 06:49 AM

>>>Hard to believe that full fat organic meats aid in the healing process.<<<<

Why?

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(2411)

on October 17, 2013
at 01:10 AM

@Momfromthesouth,

If you wouldn't mind, please upvote the answers you found helpful.

7c4f4a3d4b540495596197b3acd5fc3c

on October 17, 2013
at 12:48 AM

Your answer coinsides with the last answer from Jake. thank you so much for your input.

7c4f4a3d4b540495596197b3acd5fc3c

on October 17, 2013
at 12:48 AM

Thankyou for such a complete answer as it helps me to fully understand.

7c4f4a3d4b540495596197b3acd5fc3c

on October 17, 2013
at 12:47 AM

Thank you for helping me to understand this concept. I will continue on Paleo autoimmune.

7c4f4a3d4b540495596197b3acd5fc3c

on October 17, 2013
at 12:47 AM

thank you, I will continue to eat my high fat grass fed meats with all the vegetables and fruit carbs.

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on October 24, 2013
at 03:02 PM

What are you trying to heal? Avoiding all the things you list would help heal a diabetic, but beyond that its.all.just.food. Some foods are better than others, and because of the protein meat is a good food to eat compared to a candy bar. But it's not magic.

Being highly active is magic though. Acting like a paleo is at least as important as trying to eat like one. Hunt and gather for all you're worth, especially if you need to heal your CV health.

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on October 24, 2013
at 07:58 AM

Darn it all to heck, I just practically wrote you a novel about the benefits to your digestive tract, heart, liver, and brain from eating fatty meats, and then lost it. Gotta go to bed, I'll try to come back tomorrow. Check out this link in the meantime if you want more info.

http://www.gnolls.org/

You sound skeptical, try it for a month and see if you like it. I've found I can actually add back in a lot of the bad stuff like grains, legumes, sugar, etc. in moderate doses without too much impact, but if I stop eating red meat (and I was a vegetarian for the first 20+ years of my life so it isn't like that is a foreign concept to me) I feel myself start to fall apart mentally and physically, my thyroid goes to hell, I get mopey, fatter, and foggyheaded and have to sleep 10-12 hours per night. Meat healed those things, and continues to heal them.

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on October 24, 2013
at 03:47 PM

+1 for the most useful answer.

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on October 24, 2013
at 12:02 AM

Not sure what your question is? Dropping grains and sugars made an enormous difference in my health, digestion, and well-being, you could definitely call it healing. However I have not noticed as much of a difference eating organic vs. non-organic foods. I have a strong sensitivity to certain oils, such as vegetable or canola oil, basically it is like a bomb going off in my guts. But I don't notice any difference between say factory raised chicken and organic or pastured chicken. Factory farming grosses me out and I try to buy the best meat I can, but I just haven't had the immediate feedback (positive or negative) eating cheap meat as I have eating things like grains or sugars. YMMV.

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on October 23, 2013
at 08:16 PM

My diet is less paleo and more ultra low carb. I eat lots of animal fats, including dairy products. At least half the carbs I eat come from sugar, since I'm a teriyaki addict lol

I'm healthier than I've ever been, and the more animal fats I eat the better I feel. I never go for reduced fat. Ever.

I only eat naturally raised animal products from animals that are raised and fed how they're supposed to be, so that could play a big part of it.

7c4f4a3d4b540495596197b3acd5fc3c

on October 23, 2013
at 11:53 PM

I too, eat only grass fed meats but do not do any sugar, dairy or grains. What you are doing is great if it works and obviously it is. I have a serious and deadly autoimmune disease so I have a much stricter protocol. for now.

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on October 17, 2013
at 08:47 PM

Milk and sugar can be tremendously beneficial for some people. Hence, I don't like this generalization.

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on October 17, 2013
at 11:10 AM

Sorry, did you for some reason imagine that CAFO meats, which were fed a species inappropriate diet (GMO grains bathed in pesticides, old expired candy in wrappers, etc.), and growth hormones, would somehow help heal anyone?

Or is it that you still believe that lean meats are healthy and fats lead to CVD?

Paleo works by removing toxins. The right kinds of fats are a proper energy source and unlike carbs, don't trigger insulin, giving your body a break from the constant wash of insulin/hyperglycemia roller-coaster you'd get from eating sugary snacks and carb loaded meals.

The truth is that the Standard American Diet is the way it is because of econo-political influence, not because it's in some way healthy. Grains are a very big business, and are the lowest quality foods at the lowest possible price. By themselves are tasteless and need a ton of sugar, salt, fat, and/or flavor to be palatable. These companies have influenced the government and FDA into giving them many concessions and subsidies over the last hundred years.

Through advertising, they can claim their products are "heart healthy" when they are actually very harmful.

Things like cereal were originally intended to be used to lower human sexuality due to puritan influences. Soy was used by monks to do the same. Originally soy oil was used as a base for paint, not for human consumption, and yet today these things are considered staples. The funny thing is, that a sexual human is a healthy human, so by trying to stop those urges, we become unhealthy.

When dietetics schools were first introduced, they were sponsored by big-agra to push their wares and influence public opinion.

Later, when industrial oil companies were losing money to palm and coconut oil companies, they invented hydrogenized oils and set about a campaign to tar natural oils as causing heart disease. The truth was the exact opposite. Margarine and other trans fats cause more damage to the vascular system than anything else. Since people woke up to this, they changed it to fractionated oils, which are just as harmful as artificial trans fats.

In the same way, as people learned the evils of nutrasweet, which was meant as a rodent poison, and has a very controversial FDA-approval involving scummery such as Rumsfeld, the company chairman, taking over the FDA to get it approved, and then returning to Searle, the companies selling it decided to rename it things like amino-sweet. When the public realizes something is toxic, they hide it, or rename it.

The same is true of MSG, you'll almost never see MSG as an ingredient anymore. Instead it hides under "Natural Flavor" or "yeast extract" or hydrolyzed vegetable protein, or something like that.

Do you really believe these industry forces are out to help you stay healthy, or do they have a built in interest to their quarterly profits and would do or say anything to get you to buy more of their crap, including making their foods, palatable, but not satisfying, and as addictive as possible?

F291857fa12a0291688ea994343156dc

(720)

on October 17, 2013
at 08:06 PM

@raydawg would that not be ......

"healthy human is a sexual human" ;)

7c4f4a3d4b540495596197b3acd5fc3c

on October 17, 2013
at 12:04 PM

Believe me, I know without a doubt that grass fed and organic meats is the only way to go. I just wanted to know how even the healthy fats work to our advantage and many of you have answered that for me.

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on October 17, 2013
at 12:41 AM

@Momfromthesouth,

Saturated animal fat from traditionally-raised ruminant livestock (cows, pigs, sheep) is 40???50% monosaturated fat, the kind in the alleged miraculous olive oil (Fat from fowl is very high in inflammatory omega-6 fatty acids). In fact, lard from traditionally-raised pigs is nearly identical in composition to human fat. The fibers of brain and nerve cells are made of monosaturated fatty acids.

The other half are things like stearic acid, palmitic acid, etc., which have varied uses in the body. Long-chain saturated fats form the membrane of every cell in your body, in addition to being the main fuel on a fat-dominant diet. Sufficient amounts of them help the membranes of your cells be more flexible. Once your body adapts to a ketogenic diet, muscles operate more efficiently (i.e., use less energy) when they use medium-chain triglycerides (made from saturated fats) than when they used to use glucose.

Short-chain fatty acids are the preferred fuel of the 10 trillion good bacteria in the gut, helping keep the bad bacteria in check.

The fat in unrefined, low-temperature-processed coconut oil is about 50% lauric acid. The body converts this to monolaurin, a potent anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, and anti-viral substance. I know of people with kids who keep a salve in the refrigerator that's a mixture of coconut oil, olive oil, and garlic oil to relieve the earaches that kids seem to get regularly (especially those on a high-carb diet).

Research shows that certain types of tumor cells, such as breast cancers, can't make use of fats for fuel and starve on a high-fat, low-carb diet. In addition, their defective mitochondria, wholly dependent on glucose, can't effectively repair the damage from free radicals, which are part of normal metabolism, when you eat a fat-dominant diet. Lastly, high levels of insulin inhibit pathways that regulate abnormal cell proliferation, which is the hallmark of cancer.

But mostly, if you only remove most carbs from you diet without increasing the healthy animal fats, you won't have enough raw materials for the Krebs cycle, the process by which most of our cellular energy is produced. Therefore, eating fat literally keeps you alive.

7c4f4a3d4b540495596197b3acd5fc3c

on October 17, 2013
at 12:48 AM

Thankyou for such a complete answer as it helps me to fully understand.

00cd3b6f51530a6832fcda1712edbec3

(2411)

on October 17, 2013
at 01:10 AM

@Momfromthesouth,

If you wouldn't mind, please upvote the answers you found helpful.

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on October 24, 2013
at 03:44 PM

Fat literally keeps you alive if its the only thing you have to eat. It's one of 3 macros, don't oversell it.

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on October 17, 2013
at 12:36 AM

Yes, fatty meats and offal matter. They increase the intake of some vitamins and many minerals. The fat, unlike most vegetable fats, has vitamins in it. It contains decent amounts of Omega 3, which is anti inflammatory. and once you lose all those grains, you have to replace them with something highly caloric. You can not replace them with proteins, so it has to be animal fat.

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on October 17, 2013
at 01:32 PM

ruminant meat contains so little O3 that it is almost a wash. Offal are fantastic for vitamins and minerals.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on October 17, 2013
at 01:57 PM

Animal fats don't have that much more vitamins than plant fats.

56c28e3654d4dd8a8abdb2c1f525202e

(1822)

on October 17, 2013
at 11:37 PM

enough O3 to make the 1 gram daily intake. It has to be grass fed of course, not just organic. Grass fed is 3-7% of fat calories (measurements vary widely). It is not small. In fact, 1/2 lb of meat that is 50% fat by calories will give you that gram.

Tallow, lard, cheese and egg yolks (all pastured) all contain vit. A and D, and K2.

7c4f4a3d4b540495596197b3acd5fc3c

on October 17, 2013
at 12:48 AM

Your answer coinsides with the last answer from Jake. thank you so much for your input.

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on October 17, 2013
at 12:09 AM

your body heals itself constantly, part of the paleo philosophy is just removing the things that do damage to your body chronically.

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on October 17, 2013
at 12:47 AM

Thank you for helping me to understand this concept. I will continue on Paleo autoimmune.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on October 17, 2013
at 01:30 PM

Pretty good answer. Avoid toxins. However, there is a hormonal aspect to the paleo philosophy too.

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on October 17, 2013
at 12:03 AM

Yes to all. but some people do high fat dairy.

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Yes to all.

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on October 17, 2013
at 12:47 AM

thank you, I will continue to eat my high fat grass fed meats with all the vegetables and fruit carbs.

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