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What's so wrong with eating past satiety?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 07, 2012 at 11:11 PM

I'm not saying I eat until I can't move or fall into a food coma on a regular basis, but I find if I eat a lot of food (where I know I'm full but there's still food on my plate and I have to force the last couple bites down), it'll help keep hunger away for the entire day. This is definitely not binge-eating. This is a rationally planned strategy of eating-MORE-than-is-humanly-possible-in-order-to-stay-full-for-a-long-period-of-time. How does the body react (or adapt?) to a regular eating habit like this? Is leptin involved even though you know you're full but you're forcing yourself to eat more? Assume there is balanced caloric intake/expenditure.
(And yes I do workout, walk a lot, bodyweight exercises, etc. so I don't think this is being overindulgent either.)

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on May 15, 2012
at 05:07 AM

Great point! I usually don't feel "guilty" when overeating paleo food.

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on February 08, 2012
at 05:26 AM

Once-per-day Eater here, checking in. The edge that hunger brings and the happiness of a full belly all in one day? Yes, please! I've been doing it for 5 months. I also tend to skip a meal now and again. (every 10 days or so) I eat perfect health diet style with a pound of potato in each (daily) meal (fried in delicous fats...mmmMMmmm) Your stomach stops growling at 'late morning meal' and 'noon meal' and 'late afternoon snack'...but continues to growl for dinner bloodwork from two weeks ago: glucose level was 80 NMR Insulin Resistence Score = 5 (<=45) triglyceride to HDL ratio is .78

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on February 08, 2012
at 03:02 AM

Plus one. Exactly my strategy. Works great, feels healthy.

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on February 08, 2012
at 01:37 AM

@Travis, I used to be a pro but now I'm ready to announce my retirement.

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on February 08, 2012
at 01:28 AM

good point! I've definitely increased my ability to consume inordinate volumes of food.

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on February 08, 2012
at 01:04 AM

I doubt it matters if someone does it occasionally, but if it were daily it would probably have some negative consequences, unless someone's training to become a competitive eater: http://www.gastroendonews.com/ViewArticle.aspx?d_id=186&a_id=9689

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on February 08, 2012
at 12:59 AM

Please see Travis' answer below--one possible risk of this is that your stomach will become acclimated to "capacity" meals and demand them. If you aren't careful about what/how often you eat, that's a slippery slope.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on February 08, 2012
at 12:58 AM

Yeah, I actually thought about that after I posted my answer. I think my present-day "need" to eat at least occasionally large meals to avoid binge cravings is because I ate to capacity vs. satiety for so many years. I think your answer offers a valid caution. +1

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on February 08, 2012
at 12:57 AM

"When people can overeat and then continue on as if nothing happened, it seems like that is where we find leptin resistance." Or, and I think more frequently, emotional eating that is not connected to hunger/satiety.

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on February 08, 2012
at 12:56 AM

Or, and I think more frequently, emotional eating that is not connected to hunger/satiety.

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on February 08, 2012
at 12:16 AM

i don't think there's anything wrong with it, it just feels soooo uncomfortable in multiple ways (for me at least) - my body temp sky rockets and i just feel nauseated from being too full.

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on February 07, 2012
at 11:14 PM

Great Question. I'd also like to hear some of the implications of such feeding.

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on February 08, 2012
at 12:54 AM

One downside I could see would be a gradual increase in gastric capacity, which would mean an ever-increasing volume of food would be required in order to reach a point of satiety. The goal posts would keep moving, if you will.

The obese tend to have a larger gastric capacity than the lean, and I don't think that's a coincidence:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0031938488903332

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0031938401006199

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0031938404001635

Luckily it's reversible:

http://www.ajcn.org/content/63/2/170.short

64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

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on February 08, 2012
at 01:28 AM

good point! I've definitely increased my ability to consume inordinate volumes of food.

Medium avatar

(39831)

on February 08, 2012
at 01:04 AM

I doubt it matters if someone does it occasionally, but if it were daily it would probably have some negative consequences, unless someone's training to become a competitive eater: http://www.gastroendonews.com/ViewArticle.aspx?d_id=186&a_id=9689

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on February 08, 2012
at 01:37 AM

@Travis, I used to be a pro but now I'm ready to announce my retirement.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on February 08, 2012
at 12:58 AM

Yeah, I actually thought about that after I posted my answer. I think my present-day "need" to eat at least occasionally large meals to avoid binge cravings is because I ate to capacity vs. satiety for so many years. I think your answer offers a valid caution. +1

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on February 08, 2012
at 01:34 AM

There is a HUGE difference between eating past satiety on paleo approved foods and those that are not. I can eat a 20oz steak a couple eggs and a bunch of veggies in one meal and be well past satiety. I can also eat an entire pizza by myself in a sitting.

Both of these take me past satiety, but only with the pizza do I have any urge to go back and have some more in just a couple hours. So we are back to quality of food.

Dd0244b4368083d25ae9eb8533211d2e

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on May 15, 2012
at 05:07 AM

Great point! I usually don't feel "guilty" when overeating paleo food.

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96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on February 07, 2012
at 11:22 PM

Eating past what I call "first satiety" is exactly what I do.

For that to work for me, as in continue to drop excess fat, I have to obey 3 rules:

  • A good bit of the volume has to be low-density food (leafy salad, broth in stew)
  • The high-density parts of the meal have to provide good, complete nutrition
  • I can't eat again until a few hours after I feel "empty and hungry" which is usually 24 hrs

If I break any of those rules, eating until nicely stuffed is either a maintenance plan or I can actually gain back some of my lost-but-not-forgotten excess body fat.

As an overweight person, I can only justify large meals if I still create a slight food deficit so more fat is released from storage than added. If/when I reach a weight I wish to maintain I will probably still eat the same way but with luck I won't need to wait quite as long before responding to hunger. Or, maybe I will. I hope to find out by this time next year.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on February 08, 2012
at 12:59 AM

Please see Travis' answer below--one possible risk of this is that your stomach will become acclimated to "capacity" meals and demand them. If you aren't careful about what/how often you eat, that's a slippery slope.

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64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

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on February 08, 2012
at 12:35 AM

This is exactly what I do. I think that it is okay as long as you continue to respond accordingly. By that, I mean that I find I will eat less the next day, or if I overeat for a few days I will eat less for a couple days.

To me this is leptin working properly. When people can overeat and then continue on as if nothing happened, it seems like that is where we find leptin resistance.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on February 08, 2012
at 12:57 AM

"When people can overeat and then continue on as if nothing happened, it seems like that is where we find leptin resistance." Or, and I think more frequently, emotional eating that is not connected to hunger/satiety.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on February 08, 2012
at 12:56 AM

Or, and I think more frequently, emotional eating that is not connected to hunger/satiety.

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