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What is your initial reaction when you see someone holding a bag of McDonald's food?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 20, 2011 at 6:52 PM

I saw someone walking with a bag of McDonald's food today and wondered how Paleo dieters think about people who eat at McDonald's.

Do you feel scared for that person's health?

Do you feel regret that you once ate that stuff yourself?

Do you want to warn that person that McDonald's food is unhealthy?

Do think "I'm glad I don't eat there anymore"?

Do you not give it a 2nd thought and respect others right to eat anything they want?

Cf4576cbcc44fc7f2294135609bce9e5

(3125)

on February 02, 2012
at 05:59 AM

+1 for telling the truth i sit in Mcdonals with my son and Buy him chicken nuggets because he has no wheat issues and he is not fat. i think they taste fine. i just cant eat them any longer.

A912ff969107d3eda04ee78c683a6bc5

(178)

on October 22, 2011
at 02:16 PM

For some $ is the major consideration. McD's is cheap and often convenient. Cheapness comes from many baby boomers being the children of depression era parents. Others have moved beyond that and realize that we get what we pay for. The free lunch is worth every penny that we pay for it. Cheap lunch--likewise.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on October 22, 2011
at 04:34 AM

I don't think they sell much without the carbs. You could get it without the bun, but I never see people do it. Those people just go to in and out, where they don't have to pay for the bun and then throw it out.

6498694060d879a7960b35913539b75f

(1307)

on October 22, 2011
at 03:05 AM

How do you know there are carbs in the bag?

A912ff969107d3eda04ee78c683a6bc5

(178)

on October 21, 2011
at 10:42 PM

Not a 2nd thought. I don't see it that much since no McD's near work. You should stop hanging out at the food court.

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on October 21, 2011
at 08:38 PM

I used to work with a guy who ate McDonald's every single work day for lunch, and he started to look like it after a year or two.

F2eb9c945a9afb8dfe06e6ea99fcb34b

(213)

on October 21, 2011
at 06:16 PM

Silly boy, that food was for his grandkids. LOL!!!

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on October 21, 2011
at 05:37 PM

Ha, Meredith! :-))

26b7615ef542394102785a67a2786867

(7967)

on October 21, 2011
at 01:30 AM

Not necessarily karimoo. My grandfather spent 70 years of his life smoking, drinking, eating crap - he has a sound metabolism (effortlessly lean), good genetics (no CDoC, looks young), comes from a freakishly long-lived family, and has always been SUPER active. He's 97 and still kicking. Diet isn't everything

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on October 21, 2011
at 01:12 AM

You don't lecture others???

3193ead7a301b741aafa193c4476edea

(213)

on October 21, 2011
at 12:38 AM

Haha, yea man...a bigmac's like the woman in the red dress. Appeals to the senses, but more dangerous than it seems. :P

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on October 21, 2011
at 12:35 AM

You work at McDonalds?

Aa69579f867333b08158c70e25f7daf1

(1826)

on October 21, 2011
at 12:01 AM

Yes, when thin people wear sweat it's called Lululemon... but apparently when an overweight person wears sweats it's called being lazy? I'm with Firestorm. I wear yoga clothes/sweat clothes all the time. They wash easily and it's easy to get on and off the floor with a baby all day in them.

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on October 20, 2011
at 11:38 PM

all of the above. the the kubler-ross stages of paleo grief.

6714718e2245e5190017d643a7614157

on October 20, 2011
at 10:26 PM

Is that a "Matrix" reference? I feel like I am in the Matrix when I go grocery shopping and everybody else fills the carts with bread, chips, fat free yogurt, pasta, and cookies. And here I am pushing a cart with meat, organic veggies, and pasture butter. It's still kind of weird seeing all the SAD items that other shoppers buy that you no longer buy because you chose a different path.

6714718e2245e5190017d643a7614157

on October 20, 2011
at 10:04 PM

karimoo, the man was skinny, but he didn't look all that healthy. When I started eating paleo I was not over weight, but I knew that I wasn't really healthy either. I knew I had to make changes, and thanks to a friend I learned about eating paleo. I know their is a lot more to health than just a person's weight or BMI.

61a27a8b7ec2264b1821923b271eaf54

(3175)

on October 20, 2011
at 09:44 PM

I was in the military from 1983-2004. Lots of enforced exercise, after I retired in 2004 I went from 205 to 245 in less than a year. Yo-yo'd from 210-230 by calorie counting and cardio. Started paleo at 220 in Jan 2011. Been losing ever since and feeling awesome. No urge for McDonald's at all!

61a27a8b7ec2264b1821923b271eaf54

(3175)

on October 20, 2011
at 09:40 PM

I haven't had a regular Coke since the 80's (I'm 46). I used to be a fast food junky, eating like this at least 3 or 4 times a week. I worked 1 block from Burger King from 2000-2003 and ate lunch there 3-5 days a week, sometimes supper, too! Double Whopper, Large Fries, diet Coke, and a cheeseburger! In 1983, I weighed 165lbs. Got up to 245lbs in 2005, back down to 170 now after 1 year paleo.

3193ead7a301b741aafa193c4476edea

(213)

on October 20, 2011
at 09:36 PM

@RichfrmTx, those folks might not be fat, but there's a host of internal problems just waiting to explode

6714718e2245e5190017d643a7614157

on October 20, 2011
at 09:23 PM

I saw an lean and skinny older man in front of me at the checkout line last month and he had a loaf of white bread, a package of cream filled cookies, and some Hostess type snack cakes. And the cashier jokingly asked him "Where are the fruits and vegetables?" I had to bite my tongue because I almost laughed out loud when she asked that question. The man must of been in his late 50s early 60s and he was skinny. I guess some people can eat a lot of cake and cookies for 60 years and still stay slim and trim.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 20, 2011
at 09:13 PM

Awesome! Throw a filet o fish on there and you have the perfect meal.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 20, 2011
at 09:11 PM

I was thinking the same exact thing. I'll order McDouble's when I'm in a pickle (pun totally intended!) without ketchup and toss the bun. That way I get the onions, mustard, and pickles, which are at least veggies...

Medium avatar

(39831)

on October 20, 2011
at 09:08 PM

Too much fruit is not their problem.

Medium avatar

(39831)

on October 20, 2011
at 09:04 PM

At what point did you switch to diet coke? Was there a point where'd you do the same thing with standard coke? How often did you do this?

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on October 20, 2011
at 08:59 PM

Seriously, the dude is in his 80's and has a facebook. How sweet is that. I don't even have a facebook.

Ca1150430b1904659742ce2cad621c7d

(12540)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:56 PM

I'll be honest -- as I get older, I find it pointless to get 'dressed up' to run to the grocery store or whatever. I am a clothing minimalist at home, so why should I get trussed up and decorated to go out grocery shopping? (And I wear minimalist shoes on my feet -- so there ya go... uglyfugly but comfortable, smiling, and happy). I think we spend WAY too much time looking at other people and judging them, and way to LITTLE time looking for places to make a difference in the world around us in meaningful ways that don't belittle others.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:55 PM

Yes! People need to worry about their own damn selves!!!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:54 PM

No kidding.....

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:54 PM

On my first round of primal, I was very conscious of what other people did because I was eating mostly via willpower. After several on/off rounds, I've gradually relaxed. I don't care about other people's bags and carts any more, I just focus on being at peace with how I feel and what I eat. The gnoll.org essay on "Why Do We Stop Eating?" was very powerful for me.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:53 PM

Live and let die, right? :)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:52 PM

Judge not lest ye be judged. Not a big religious person, but that is one of the truest statements in the bible...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:51 PM

Are we all invited Evan?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:51 PM

Anyone else sick of food/diet Nazi's? I never offer my opinion on food or diet unless I am asked.

4ec0fe4b4aab327f7efa2dfb06b032ff

(5145)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:30 PM

Other fast food ranges in quality from pretty bad to semi-decent, but McDonalds' beef is definitely the lowest quality I've ever tasted. Well, maybe public school lunch is similar quality (sad to say).

Ccdf3fbcaec76e025ff94d03cc4daf9a

(536)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:27 PM

Ew.... -1 for bad spelling. JUDGEMENT

Ccdf3fbcaec76e025ff94d03cc4daf9a

(536)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:26 PM

+1 for judegement!

61b801de5dc345b557cd4623d4a4f26b

(2682)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:13 PM

I should add that I do indeed judge the individual if they are feeding that crap to their children.

61b801de5dc345b557cd4623d4a4f26b

(2682)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:12 PM

My husband calls me a food-snob. I refuse to eat at most of the restaurants we used to frequent.

6714718e2245e5190017d643a7614157

on October 20, 2011
at 08:11 PM

Isn't it ironic that circa 1983 McDonald's started frying their potatoes in vegetable oil instead of beef tallow in order to be "more healthy"

61b801de5dc345b557cd4623d4a4f26b

(2682)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:04 PM

We have "pizza day" at work once a month. I time my own lunch so I'm in the break room after the "herd" has come and gone, but there is inevitably a couple stragglers (or seconds?) who come in and ask, "Are you on a diet?" or "Don't like pizza?" I usually just say yes and move on, but today I responded with "No, I'm not on a diet, and I like pizza (not the chain-restaurant crap at work), I just avoid it." I was surprised by the response of "That's really smart. We should all avoid this pizza." Of course, he had pizza for lunch, so...yeah.

61b801de5dc345b557cd4623d4a4f26b

(2682)

on October 20, 2011
at 07:59 PM

mmm, pot roast!

66e6b190e62fb3bcf42d4c60801c7bf6

(12407)

on October 20, 2011
at 07:58 PM

wow:-) i love the paleohacks groupthink

34a367e60db77270bd7096dc04270fdc

(4171)

on October 20, 2011
at 07:55 PM

Honestly, I see more and more people these days in all sorts of places, wearing what looks like to me are pajamas and crocs or uggs etc. Seriously if you can't even bother to get dressed properly to go to the grocery store, movies etc I call that a lack of giving a shit anymore and depression issues. Paul is right, there's more wrong than just the diet.

Fa9f340eddbad9a544184c688fa4dcdd

(6433)

on October 20, 2011
at 07:54 PM

There are establishments other than McDonalds that sell French fries and low-quality meat. ;) Where I live, some family businesses still fry in lard or beef dripping, and sadly for orang-utans but not human arteries, palm oil is also a popular choice.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32556)

on October 20, 2011
at 07:41 PM

Really? http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/31/us/31meat.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/38082.php From the ingredient list for McDonald’s French Fries: “Prepared in vegetable oil (Canola oil, corn oil, soybean oil, hydrogenated soybean oil with TBHQ and citric acid added to preserve freshness). Dimethylpolysiloxane added as an antifoaming agent”

6714718e2245e5190017d643a7614157

on October 20, 2011
at 07:32 PM

I look more at other people's shopping carts now also after going paleo. I was at a grocery store that caters to Hispanics to pickup some yellow onions that were on sale for 33 cents/pound, and I noticed a lady with a 25 pound bag of flour for making tortillas in her shopping cart. I did a 180 degree turn and went the other way because I didn't want to look her in the eyes.

35a8b223ae5d863f17a8c9e3a8eed5eb

(571)

on October 20, 2011
at 07:23 PM

well, you can say there is more wrong than just the diet :D

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on October 20, 2011
at 07:17 PM

good luck with that...

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on October 20, 2011
at 07:02 PM

Well my health improved when switching from a diet high in bread and sugar to a diet high in french fries and low-quality meat. I don't think McDonalds is that bad.

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5437163ddf70d4532f196bfb4333753e

(3614)

on October 20, 2011
at 07:54 PM

Are they planning to force feed me Chicken McNuggets?

...

If not, then I don't give a damn about what is in their McDonald's bag or what they plan to do with it.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:55 PM

Yes! People need to worry about their own damn selves!!!

14
C7e3ba0ed51a6195ae022822a8f056ac

(673)

on October 20, 2011
at 07:26 PM

I think:

For $20 (let's assume family of 3-4) I could've bought a 3lb chuck roast ($15 @ $5/lb), one onion (~$1), some carrots (~$2), and some potatoes (~$2), and fed my entire family with more food for the same, or less, cost.

Then I think to myself, pot roast sounds good for dinner tonight..

61b801de5dc345b557cd4623d4a4f26b

(2682)

on October 20, 2011
at 07:59 PM

mmm, pot roast!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:51 PM

Are we all invited Evan?

8
41dfb1a4fecb38d24075ff52f13ccb28

on October 20, 2011
at 08:18 PM

You know what... after watching Fat Head, I think "Hey, I don't know what's in that bag. He/She could have a salad and some bunless burgers in there."

Would a salad and bunless burgers from McDonald's be the perfect lunch? No.

Is a salad and bunless burgers, even being from McDonald's, a hell of a lot better than what most of the people around me each for lunch? You betcha.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 20, 2011
at 09:11 PM

I was thinking the same exact thing. I'll order McDouble's when I'm in a pickle (pun totally intended!) without ketchup and toss the bun. That way I get the onions, mustard, and pickles, which are at least veggies...

7
A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on October 20, 2011
at 07:20 PM

There are people that smoke and/or drink heavily and live to a ripe old age (damn them!)

I only know what it did to me and (hopefully) how I can recover my health.

I think that it is hubris to assume anything about anyone else.

7
93ae9f2d376e5426e891a9b58d8302fa

(2936)

on October 20, 2011
at 07:13 PM

Whenever I pass McDonald's, I see 500-pound leviathans waddling to and from their cars and pickup trucks, still wearing pajamas and crocs, sometimes carrying respirators, often struggling with each step.

What can you say?

Ca1150430b1904659742ce2cad621c7d

(12540)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:56 PM

I'll be honest -- as I get older, I find it pointless to get 'dressed up' to run to the grocery store or whatever. I am a clothing minimalist at home, so why should I get trussed up and decorated to go out grocery shopping? (And I wear minimalist shoes on my feet -- so there ya go... uglyfugly but comfortable, smiling, and happy). I think we spend WAY too much time looking at other people and judging them, and way to LITTLE time looking for places to make a difference in the world around us in meaningful ways that don't belittle others.

35a8b223ae5d863f17a8c9e3a8eed5eb

(571)

on October 20, 2011
at 07:23 PM

well, you can say there is more wrong than just the diet :D

34a367e60db77270bd7096dc04270fdc

(4171)

on October 20, 2011
at 07:55 PM

Honestly, I see more and more people these days in all sorts of places, wearing what looks like to me are pajamas and crocs or uggs etc. Seriously if you can't even bother to get dressed properly to go to the grocery store, movies etc I call that a lack of giving a shit anymore and depression issues. Paul is right, there's more wrong than just the diet.

Aa69579f867333b08158c70e25f7daf1

(1826)

on October 21, 2011
at 12:01 AM

Yes, when thin people wear sweat it's called Lululemon... but apparently when an overweight person wears sweats it's called being lazy? I'm with Firestorm. I wear yoga clothes/sweat clothes all the time. They wash easily and it's easy to get on and off the floor with a baby all day in them.

7
24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

(9812)

on October 20, 2011
at 06:57 PM

Eh, I don't really give it a 2nd thought. I am, however, an analyzer of other people's grocery carts.

6714718e2245e5190017d643a7614157

on October 20, 2011
at 07:32 PM

I look more at other people's shopping carts now also after going paleo. I was at a grocery store that caters to Hispanics to pickup some yellow onions that were on sale for 33 cents/pound, and I noticed a lady with a 25 pound bag of flour for making tortillas in her shopping cart. I did a 180 degree turn and went the other way because I didn't want to look her in the eyes.

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4ec0fe4b4aab327f7efa2dfb06b032ff

(5145)

on October 20, 2011
at 06:57 PM

The last one.

I think most people understand that McDonalds is unhealthy but choose to eat there anyway for any number of reasons. Anyone who doesn't know it's unhealthy at this point must be really bad at paying attention and will soon be hit by a bus anyway.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32556)

on October 20, 2011
at 07:41 PM

Really? http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/31/us/31meat.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/38082.php From the ingredient list for McDonald’s French Fries: “Prepared in vegetable oil (Canola oil, corn oil, soybean oil, hydrogenated soybean oil with TBHQ and citric acid added to preserve freshness). Dimethylpolysiloxane added as an antifoaming agent”

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on October 20, 2011
at 07:02 PM

Well my health improved when switching from a diet high in bread and sugar to a diet high in french fries and low-quality meat. I don't think McDonalds is that bad.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:51 PM

Anyone else sick of food/diet Nazi's? I never offer my opinion on food or diet unless I am asked.

4ec0fe4b4aab327f7efa2dfb06b032ff

(5145)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:30 PM

Other fast food ranges in quality from pretty bad to semi-decent, but McDonalds' beef is definitely the lowest quality I've ever tasted. Well, maybe public school lunch is similar quality (sad to say).

Fa9f340eddbad9a544184c688fa4dcdd

(6433)

on October 20, 2011
at 07:54 PM

There are establishments other than McDonalds that sell French fries and low-quality meat. ;) Where I live, some family businesses still fry in lard or beef dripping, and sadly for orang-utans but not human arteries, palm oil is also a popular choice.

6714718e2245e5190017d643a7614157

on October 20, 2011
at 08:11 PM

Isn't it ironic that circa 1983 McDonald's started frying their potatoes in vegetable oil instead of beef tallow in order to be "more healthy"

5
Ccdf3fbcaec76e025ff94d03cc4daf9a

on October 20, 2011
at 07:58 PM

To be honest, I judge. I'll be the first to admit it. I also judge on what is in their shopping cart. I would never say anything, but the thoughts in my head are snobby. I know admitting it doesnt make it right, and I have had McDonalds before, but I feel so enlightened after starting Paleo that I cant help myself. My boyfriend calls me a paleo-snob, but I wear the name proudly!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:52 PM

Judge not lest ye be judged. Not a big religious person, but that is one of the truest statements in the bible...

61b801de5dc345b557cd4623d4a4f26b

(2682)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:12 PM

My husband calls me a food-snob. I refuse to eat at most of the restaurants we used to frequent.

5
13a44ea00b0c9af0b6d0f3d5f5c2cfca

(7223)

on October 20, 2011
at 07:37 PM

I really don't spend a lot of time analyzing other peoples' food choices--although I do admit having some passing thoughts about some of the things on the grocery conveyer belt, but I'm a more captive audience in that situation and I do try to remind myself not to be judgmental. It's not like I've been eating a perfect diet my entire life; it's not ever going to be perfect. Regardless, I couldn't imagine confronting a stranger or even a friend about their lunch (or their groceries). What would that possibly accomplish? If they want information I'd be happy to share it, but I wouldn't try to force it on anyone.

Sometimes I think the comparisons between paleo and religious fundamentalism are pretty apt.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:54 PM

No kidding.....

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Medium avatar

on October 20, 2011
at 09:02 PM

"At least it's not a veggie burger."

Also: "Should have just gone to Burgerville."

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B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on October 20, 2011
at 08:55 PM

I love looking at what other people eat, when I'm shopping for food I'm all up in their carts and then I look for any obvious manifestations of health issues and try to guess what they could put back to relieve their ills. I never say anything of course because although I would like to ask them why they choose the food they did it's really none of my business. I've had people comment on the food I buy though and I try to keep it brief "...something like shop the outer parameter and you'll be fine..." and mostly I just want to ask people how they choose the food they did because I'm more interested in people's thinking than what's in their cart.

There is one guy I see him almost all the time I go to the store, he loads the belt up with a couple liters of Sprite (he must have class), a carton of Dunhill additive free cigarettes (even more class), a couple smoked meats, some milk, a few cartons of eggs, and a few other odds and ends like pastry type stuff. He's lean, old, mobile (he looks like he could do cartwheels), and seems ultra focused like he's working on some great novel or something like that, full head of lush grey hair, the ultimate paradox. I love it. I love it. I love it.

I have a uncle in his 80's. Eats the same way except he probably has been drinking a bottle of wine for the past 30 years. He still drives, and serves court summons, he is the life of the party and he still does the more classy type of partying and wine tasting gigs and is very involved in the community. He's going to live to 150 I think, he shows no sign of slowing down and is as sharp as a tack.

26b7615ef542394102785a67a2786867

(7967)

on October 21, 2011
at 01:30 AM

Not necessarily karimoo. My grandfather spent 70 years of his life smoking, drinking, eating crap - he has a sound metabolism (effortlessly lean), good genetics (no CDoC, looks young), comes from a freakishly long-lived family, and has always been SUPER active. He's 97 and still kicking. Diet isn't everything

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on October 20, 2011
at 08:59 PM

Seriously, the dude is in his 80's and has a facebook. How sweet is that. I don't even have a facebook.

F2eb9c945a9afb8dfe06e6ea99fcb34b

(213)

on October 21, 2011
at 06:16 PM

Silly boy, that food was for his grandkids. LOL!!!

6714718e2245e5190017d643a7614157

on October 20, 2011
at 10:04 PM

karimoo, the man was skinny, but he didn't look all that healthy. When I started eating paleo I was not over weight, but I knew that I wasn't really healthy either. I knew I had to make changes, and thanks to a friend I learned about eating paleo. I know their is a lot more to health than just a person's weight or BMI.

6714718e2245e5190017d643a7614157

on October 20, 2011
at 09:23 PM

I saw an lean and skinny older man in front of me at the checkout line last month and he had a loaf of white bread, a package of cream filled cookies, and some Hostess type snack cakes. And the cashier jokingly asked him "Where are the fruits and vegetables?" I had to bite my tongue because I almost laughed out loud when she asked that question. The man must of been in his late 50s early 60s and he was skinny. I guess some people can eat a lot of cake and cookies for 60 years and still stay slim and trim.

3193ead7a301b741aafa193c4476edea

(213)

on October 20, 2011
at 09:36 PM

@RichfrmTx, those folks might not be fat, but there's a host of internal problems just waiting to explode

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61b801de5dc345b557cd4623d4a4f26b

(2682)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:11 PM

My initial reaction is an internal "Bleh!"

This is not directed at the person. This is directed at what McDonald's (and other fast food places) represents to me. When starting Paleo/Primal, it wasn't enough for me to know that some of the things I ate were unhealthy. So? I already knew I ate unhealthy things! I had to convince myself that not only were these things unhealthy, but also disgusting and full of malice. This was mostly easily accomplished as I am quite judgmental.

Having no obvious health problems, "unhealthy" has never had much of an effect on me. If I allow myself to believe that these things aren't gross, it's possible that taste/reward will win out over healthfulness.

61b801de5dc345b557cd4623d4a4f26b

(2682)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:13 PM

I should add that I do indeed judge the individual if they are feeding that crap to their children.

Ccdf3fbcaec76e025ff94d03cc4daf9a

(536)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:27 PM

Ew.... -1 for bad spelling. JUDGEMENT

Ccdf3fbcaec76e025ff94d03cc4daf9a

(536)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:26 PM

+1 for judegement!

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F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:02 PM

Since this happens mostly when I am work -I think 'Now the office is going to smell awful for hours -damn them!'

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on October 20, 2011
at 07:05 PM

i think they need to be properly educated on what's going into their bodies.

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(20436)

on October 20, 2011
at 07:17 PM

good luck with that...

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(12407)

on October 20, 2011
at 07:58 PM

wow:-) i love the paleohacks groupthink

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(8938)

on October 20, 2011
at 07:01 PM

I don't blame them for anything, I actually praise them for choosing McDonalds instead of the bakery or the candy store. At least they get some meat and some (probably) harmless starch. Sure, the oils are bad, but there are worse choices.

Also, I don't think about what others eat. I try to help them by telling them what they could eat instead of that bread, instead of that fruit, but I will never ever blame anyone for there choices. As long as they don't comment on what I do.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:53 PM

Live and let die, right? :)

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(39831)

on October 20, 2011
at 09:08 PM

Too much fruit is not their problem.

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7d0c3ea9bf8be00b93e6433d8f125ac3

(7540)

on October 20, 2011
at 06:57 PM

I really don't care that much about what someone else is eating. Most, if not all, people know that it's not healthy, so I don't see how a stranger "warning" them is going to help. People do and eat all kinds of stupid/unhealthy stuff all the time, we would never get anything done if we worried about it all the time. The only thing I might care about is if it's on the bus or some other enclosed space. McDonald's smells rank.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:54 PM

On my first round of primal, I was very conscious of what other people did because I was eating mostly via willpower. After several on/off rounds, I've gradually relaxed. I don't care about other people's bags and carts any more, I just focus on being at peace with how I feel and what I eat. The gnoll.org essay on "Why Do We Stop Eating?" was very powerful for me.

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95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on October 20, 2011
at 10:12 PM

My reaction: It's his choice. If he knows better or chooses not to educate himself, then so be it. I don't lecture others. If someone asks me how I lost so much weight, I'll tell him and he can do what he wishes with the information. If he wants to know more and actually start a meaningful long-term conversation about food, them I'm open to that.

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on October 21, 2011
at 01:12 AM

You don't lecture others???

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on October 21, 2011
at 05:37 PM

Ha, Meredith! :-))

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96061d386f8929f50a4d71e0420e3d5d

(208)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:36 PM

I think, "Hey, that was me 2 years ago!"

Here's how I got up to 250lbs.

I'd go to McD's, buy 2 Big Macs, 1 cheeseburger, Large Fries, diet Coke.

Use the Fries to scoop all the special sauce off the Big Macs (because it's so tasty on fries), then combine all the Big Mac meat onto one bun. Eat it. Then eat all the rest of the bread. Then eat all the fries washed down by the diet coke. Drive home and eat the cheeseburger on the road because I'm still hungry. Get home, eat some chocolate chips cookies.

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(39831)

on October 20, 2011
at 09:04 PM

At what point did you switch to diet coke? Was there a point where'd you do the same thing with standard coke? How often did you do this?

61a27a8b7ec2264b1821923b271eaf54

(3175)

on October 20, 2011
at 09:44 PM

I was in the military from 1983-2004. Lots of enforced exercise, after I retired in 2004 I went from 205 to 245 in less than a year. Yo-yo'd from 210-230 by calorie counting and cardio. Started paleo at 220 in Jan 2011. Been losing ever since and feeling awesome. No urge for McDonald's at all!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 20, 2011
at 09:13 PM

Awesome! Throw a filet o fish on there and you have the perfect meal.

61a27a8b7ec2264b1821923b271eaf54

(3175)

on October 20, 2011
at 09:40 PM

I haven't had a regular Coke since the 80's (I'm 46). I used to be a fast food junky, eating like this at least 3 or 4 times a week. I worked 1 block from Burger King from 2000-2003 and ate lunch there 3-5 days a week, sometimes supper, too! Double Whopper, Large Fries, diet Coke, and a cheeseburger! In 1983, I weighed 165lbs. Got up to 245lbs in 2005, back down to 170 now after 1 year paleo.

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07ca188c8dac3a17f629dd87198d2098

(7970)

on October 20, 2011
at 07:20 PM

If someone has strapped on a McFeedbag near me on my train commute, the smell makes me rather ill.

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on October 21, 2011
at 12:29 AM

JOB SECURITY.......

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on October 21, 2011
at 12:35 AM

You work at McDonalds?

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9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on October 21, 2011
at 12:18 AM

"Did you really have to bring that on the subway???"

Seriously, that's where I see it mostly and that means I'm stuck in a closed metal box with the smell, which is quite strong.

My old co-workers also used to eat it sometimes, which made me feel quite depressed because on the interest we are constantly arguing whether or not paleo is affordable for the average person...and here were programmers making $100,000 a year eating McNuggets for lunch.

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on October 21, 2011
at 08:38 PM

I used to work with a guy who ate McDonald's every single work day for lunch, and he started to look like it after a year or two.

A912ff969107d3eda04ee78c683a6bc5

(178)

on October 22, 2011
at 02:16 PM

For some $ is the major consideration. McD's is cheap and often convenient. Cheapness comes from many baby boomers being the children of depression era parents. Others have moved beyond that and realize that we get what we pay for. The free lunch is worth every penny that we pay for it. Cheap lunch--likewise.

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D117467bf8e8472464ece2b81509606c

(2873)

on October 20, 2011
at 10:14 PM

"I could go for some low end burger patties."

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3193ead7a301b741aafa193c4476edea

(213)

on October 20, 2011
at 09:33 PM

I think "Ignorance is bliss"...man, poison or not, bigmacs were tasty XD

3193ead7a301b741aafa193c4476edea

(213)

on October 21, 2011
at 12:38 AM

Haha, yea man...a bigmac's like the woman in the red dress. Appeals to the senses, but more dangerous than it seems. :P

6714718e2245e5190017d643a7614157

on October 20, 2011
at 10:26 PM

Is that a "Matrix" reference? I feel like I am in the Matrix when I go grocery shopping and everybody else fills the carts with bread, chips, fat free yogurt, pasta, and cookies. And here I am pushing a cart with meat, organic veggies, and pasture butter. It's still kind of weird seeing all the SAD items that other shoppers buy that you no longer buy because you chose a different path.

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Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

(18452)

on October 20, 2011
at 07:54 PM

people will only change when the fear is great enough. the reason they are holding the bag is a result of 1 of 3 things or a combination of 2 or more of these:

  1. ignorance
  2. lack of fear (which is usually a result of #1)
  3. lack of care (which, amazingly, does not always require #1 or #2 to be true)

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76c885d7d27e6c83542ea493ca866dcd

(2178)

on October 20, 2011
at 07:41 PM

Pity. Mostly for their chunked-up kids.

Despair, almost. That so many people think that's a harmless choice for their bodies and their families.

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66974b2cb291799dcd661b7dec99a9e2

(11121)

on October 21, 2011
at 04:21 AM

A) Paleo is a Lifestyle not a diet. B) I could really care less what other people eat, we are all free to choose C) When I see that I just daydream about H.G. Wells showing up with a time machine that could transport me back in time about 20,000 years ;)

Cf4576cbcc44fc7f2294135609bce9e5

(3125)

on February 02, 2012
at 05:59 AM

+1 for telling the truth i sit in Mcdonals with my son and Buy him chicken nuggets because he has no wheat issues and he is not fat. i think they taste fine. i just cant eat them any longer.

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499f188c87c6980742b9ba98caa6f563

(683)

on October 21, 2011
at 02:45 AM

As far as shopping is concerned, remember that a lot of people, especially women, are shopping for others. My wife is not paleo and I often pick up croissants and ice cream bars for her so my shopping cart can look pretty unhealthy.

And for all we know, that overweight woman at the checkout counter could actually be in week 3 of The Quilt's Leptin Reset and just hasn't lost any weight yet!

Most unhealthy foods are perfectly harmless when eaten as a rare treat. I actually ate a croissant (slathered in butter) with my wife last week. She often joins me when I whip up a steak-and-tubers breakfast, also slathered in butter.

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8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on October 21, 2011
at 12:02 AM

What a waste of carbs! I could get a better deal with an animal-style, protein-style burger at In and Out.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on October 22, 2011
at 04:34 AM

I don't think they sell much without the carbs. You could get it without the bun, but I never see people do it. Those people just go to in and out, where they don't have to pay for the bun and then throw it out.

6498694060d879a7960b35913539b75f

(1307)

on October 22, 2011
at 03:05 AM

How do you know there are carbs in the bag?

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Ca1150430b1904659742ce2cad621c7d

(12540)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:58 PM

I worry for the kids. The neighborhood we live in has a McDonalds right on the corner, and it's the first stop for most of our neighborhood kids when the get off the bus on our street. I'd love for them to be as interested in spending a half an hour in the community garden as they are standing in line for half an hour to get a super-sized fries and a Big Mac....

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Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

(3280)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:03 PM

I have a terrible urge to tell them they're eating poison -- though obviously they know that. I control myself, but I worry about their long term health. Even with strangers. :)

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Medium avatar

on October 20, 2011
at 07:41 PM

To me "McDonald's" signifies "fast food in general," my thoughts about which are actually rather nuanced.

For example, in a pinch I have no issues with getting a Wendy's salad with chicken. True, the lettuce is iceberg, and I doubt that the chicken is organic or hormone free. All the same, it's an easy way to get veggies and protein. "In a pinch" means: rarely. Like when coming back from a late-night event, realizing I have no food at home, and noticing that Wendy's is open until after midnight.

I notice that McDonald's has its healthier options these days as well. Again, not grass-fed, but in a world of difficult choices, I know there are worse things to eat than grilled chicken with the bun tossed out. And worse things than buying a sausage-biscuit-with-egg, eating only the egg.

It goes without saying that my days of eating standard fast-food stuff (greasy cheeseburgers on buns with sugary condiments and various dessert options) are long ago over.

As for my thoughts about the junk many Americans consume daily, at McDonald's and elsewhere: I'm assuming it might weigh on me if I regularly frequented areas where people eat junk. I don't, so it's not part of my regularly consciousness. The last time I got depressed about people's food choices, was when my son's lacrosse team had a post-season celebration at a pizza party. The vast number of frighteningly overweight adults eating lots of cheesy dough and washing it down with beer, was awesome. I forget how I managed to not get people asking me, "Don't like pizza"?" Somehow I succeeded in avoiding being noticed for not partaking in the gluttony.

61b801de5dc345b557cd4623d4a4f26b

(2682)

on October 20, 2011
at 08:04 PM

We have "pizza day" at work once a month. I time my own lunch so I'm in the break room after the "herd" has come and gone, but there is inevitably a couple stragglers (or seconds?) who come in and ask, "Are you on a diet?" or "Don't like pizza?" I usually just say yes and move on, but today I responded with "No, I'm not on a diet, and I like pizza (not the chain-restaurant crap at work), I just avoid it." I was surprised by the response of "That's really smart. We should all avoid this pizza." Of course, he had pizza for lunch, so...yeah.

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(20378)

on October 20, 2011
at 07:30 PM

Kind of shocked. Not that I mind. It is just surprising to me.

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Cf4576cbcc44fc7f2294135609bce9e5

on February 02, 2012
at 05:55 AM

i get pissed that its not healthy for me because of my health issues. all foods is good, starvation is evil. trust me, i know somthing about starvation. how many of you people have experience starvation? and i dont mean not getting to eat every day. i mean being 60 pounds under ideal weight.

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7255a87872b75e6f691d84dca769b87e

on October 21, 2011
at 09:51 PM

"why didn't you go to the local -insertcityhere-ian burger joint where the food is fresher and it doesn't reek of corporations?" If they're going to eat crap, they might as well support their communities while they eat crap.

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D3f3b91d1dd9ce60865654faeb2ec809

on October 20, 2011
at 08:03 PM

Pity more than anything.

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