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What food to drop first based on level of harm

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 15, 2012 at 1:10 AM

I was curious to see what people thought about the order of dropping foods when becoming paleo based on the idea of which causes the most harm.

For example I would probably rank my list like this (from most harmful to least): Sugar - messes with hormones and energy dense Grains - inflammation causing and energy dense Hydrogenated Oils - something to do with cell derangement? Legumes - inflammation and hormones Dairy - inflammation, a non-specific growth factor Grain fed meat and birds - same as for grains Starchy Veg - energy dense compared to nutrients

As you get to the bottom, you might not even drop those items, eg starchy veg. And bear in mind I am hopeless at remembering all the data so some of the items may be misplaced/wrong (although I hope not too far off).

I found another thread here that mentions some starting orders but not necessarily regarding harmful effects: http://paleohacks.com/questions/2/starting-paleo#axzz20awAWsXe

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on July 15, 2012
at 09:25 AM

I'm with you on this one.

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on July 15, 2012
at 03:53 AM

I am collecting good articles on the dangers of soy. If you happen to have any and could share, that would be great.

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on July 15, 2012
at 02:00 AM

Oh man, I left out soy. it is definitely worse than sugar, but it would generaly fall into the category of processed foods.

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on July 15, 2012
at 01:51 AM

Sugar's at the top of my list too. So inflammatory for me. Makes mah old bones ache. :P

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on July 15, 2012
at 01:18 AM

Drop processed food first, then you cut out a lot of the harmful grains, sugars, oils and even dairy in one swoop.

I personally found more improvement cutting out grains and leaving some sugar in my diet than cutting out sugar while eating grains. It varies based on your personal sensitivities, so it's hard to advocate one order for everyone.

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on July 15, 2012
at 01:40 AM

Sugar and wheat are the worst, IMO. For myself, however, keeping grains out of my diet has been more important than avoiding sugar, so personally I'd rank grains (especially wheat) at #1. Others might have different experiences. But I'd say, "Pick one--sugar or wheat--and start there. Then, when you're ready, cut out the other."

After those two, seed oils are the next ones to go. Then legumes--at least starting with soy if one is not yet willing to give up black beans or peanut butter.

I'd encourage personal experiments with eliminating dairy, rather than telling people they ought to cut it all entirely. I know I'm not alone in being able to eat cheese, butter, and heavy cream with no trouble, while milk gives me a gut ache and terrible gas.

I also don't have a problem with nightshades, but they're another I'd suggest eliminating on a trial basis, seeing that many people do have problems with them.

I don't see any reason to drop starchy veg unless you really do need to restrict carbs. I'd gladly eat more tubers and root veg if I could. :(

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on July 15, 2012
at 02:58 AM

Gluten was the worst for me. A couple months after dropping it I discovered that I felt much better. I don't see why you necessarily want to only drop one food type at a time. I dropped glutens first, yes, but then I got rid of the industrial oils, legumes, highly processed foods all at once. Wasn't too hard. I kept the dairy (although I changed to goat dairy due to lactose intolerance) for the protein, and just a little sugar (on a rare indulgence in ice cream -- and yes, I know it has cow dairy in it) but I've never eaten a lot of it even when I ate the SAD. I try to buy grass-fed meat when available but when eating out I don't worry about it.

As I read more and more, I see that opinions have been changing on carbs, high or low. I don't have weight to lose and seem to tolerate carbs well. I don't go out of my way to eat much of them but I don't guilt over it, either.

I think the important thing is to do the best you can with the things you can control and not worry about the rest. Life is just too short to obsess over every potentially unhealthy thing.

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on July 15, 2012
at 02:58 AM

  1. High carb/Processed & refined grains. (bread, pasta, pizza, cereals...)
  2. Sugar. (candy, soda, sweet desserts...)
  3. Trans fats/hydrogenated oils. (peanut butter, margarine, doughnuts...)
  4. Pasteurized dairy. (coffee creamer, cottage cheese, ice cream...)

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on July 15, 2012
at 09:25 AM

I'm with you on this one.

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on July 15, 2012
at 02:30 AM

It depends on individual sensitivities. I think the general order is something like:

Vegetable oils >> refined sugar/starches > wheat, dairy, legumes, & whole starches (e.g. rice, potatoes).

Any overt sensitivity puts that item at the top of the elimination list.

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C45d7e96acd83d3a6f58193dbc140e86

on July 15, 2012
at 01:52 AM

Transfats are the worst, then wheat, then seed oils and processed foods, then maybe sugar.

C45d7e96acd83d3a6f58193dbc140e86

on July 15, 2012
at 02:00 AM

Oh man, I left out soy. it is definitely worse than sugar, but it would generaly fall into the category of processed foods.

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on July 15, 2012
at 03:53 AM

I am collecting good articles on the dangers of soy. If you happen to have any and could share, that would be great.

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