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What conditions,workouts or,foods made for the best sleep you had in years?

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Created March 18, 2012 at 11:12 PM

What conditions, workouts, or foods made for the best sleep you had in years?

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

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on March 22, 2012
at 03:30 AM

the face dunks are great for sleep. I do it in the late afternoon, only because I have it is a convenient time.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

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on March 21, 2012
at 03:57 AM

Loon, did/do the face dunks improve your sleep? does it matter when you do them ie. do you need to do them before bed to help with sleep?

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on March 21, 2012
at 12:21 AM

LLiM, that's what I thought until I tried it

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on March 21, 2012
at 12:20 AM

cold thermogenesis

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on March 20, 2012
at 12:41 AM

Yes, prepared!!

D8f58eba263277ec6119293137b85b02

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on March 20, 2012
at 12:07 AM

Thanks for the article - I bookmarked it to read later. That's really interesting, though. I'm assuming you mean that you eat 1 cup of prepared "jello", not a cup of pure gelatin? (That seems pretty excessive, but paleo has really redefined that word for me. ;)) I eat 2-4 tbsp of pure beef gelatin most days without any effect, but I am susceptible to placebos in that if I think it'll do something, it's more likely to, so maybe after I read the article... :) And I've been meaning to see what magnesium does for me, so I'll give that a shot, too! Thanks again.

44348571d9bc70c02ac2975cc500f154

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on March 19, 2012
at 08:46 AM

must be all the good bacteria in wild berries that makes us feel better :) http://cavingnews.com/20120210-mood-enhancing-bacteria-mycobacterium-vaccae-found-in-soil

D3e2d42bef585ff98d8ab62631bf487a

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on March 19, 2012
at 08:45 AM

I think these are great ideas. I recently realized that an empty stomach helps, allowing for a light snack for blood sugar balance. I find contrast showers stimulating and relaxing (like green tea) in the daytime, so I will now try one at night.

D3e2d42bef585ff98d8ab62631bf487a

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on March 19, 2012
at 08:41 AM

I like this except the B6 gives some people insomnia.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on March 19, 2012
at 04:51 AM

Oi. We are all different aren't we? That would cause me to spike serious adrenaline and I'd be up for 4-5 hrs.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

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on March 19, 2012
at 04:05 AM

hi Loon, i take it CT is Cold Therapy. to help with sleep, when do you do the face dunks?

D2936f57e5478aa96837a3fdb4691f57

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on March 19, 2012
at 04:05 AM

Could you elaborate on what a CT is?

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on March 19, 2012
at 01:47 AM

I eat ~ 1 cup. Maybe it's the carbs as well?

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on March 19, 2012
at 01:46 AM

Maybe placebo effect, but this is what got me trying it. Here's an excerpt from Ray Peat (http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/gelatin.shtml): A generous supply of glycine/gelatin, against a balanced background of amino acids, has a great variety of antistress actions. Glycine is recognized as an “inhibitory” neurotransmitter, and promotes natural sleep.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on March 19, 2012
at 01:43 AM

It could be the small amount of carbs? I'm eating about a cup.

D8f58eba263277ec6119293137b85b02

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on March 18, 2012
at 11:23 PM

Really? I've been eating homemade jello too, only with lemon juice and a little stevia (and sometimes some berries). I've made it quite often lately and my sleep hasn't improved. What about gelatin do you think gives that effect? And how much gelatin are you eating (maybe I'm eating less)?

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on March 19, 2012
at 04:45 AM

Not a recommendation but honestly Pot. I don't use it anymore, and never did much but a hit off the pipe 30 minutes before bed and out until dawn.

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Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on March 18, 2012
at 11:16 PM

Gelatin seems to work well for me. I eat a home-made honey-sweetened "jello" for dessert most nights.

I also take 300 mg Magnesium Citrate before bed.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on March 19, 2012
at 01:47 AM

I eat ~ 1 cup. Maybe it's the carbs as well?

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on March 19, 2012
at 01:46 AM

Maybe placebo effect, but this is what got me trying it. Here's an excerpt from Ray Peat (http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/gelatin.shtml): A generous supply of glycine/gelatin, against a balanced background of amino acids, has a great variety of antistress actions. Glycine is recognized as an “inhibitory” neurotransmitter, and promotes natural sleep.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on March 19, 2012
at 01:43 AM

It could be the small amount of carbs? I'm eating about a cup.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on March 20, 2012
at 12:41 AM

Yes, prepared!!

D8f58eba263277ec6119293137b85b02

(1071)

on March 18, 2012
at 11:23 PM

Really? I've been eating homemade jello too, only with lemon juice and a little stevia (and sometimes some berries). I've made it quite often lately and my sleep hasn't improved. What about gelatin do you think gives that effect? And how much gelatin are you eating (maybe I'm eating less)?

D8f58eba263277ec6119293137b85b02

(1071)

on March 20, 2012
at 12:07 AM

Thanks for the article - I bookmarked it to read later. That's really interesting, though. I'm assuming you mean that you eat 1 cup of prepared "jello", not a cup of pure gelatin? (That seems pretty excessive, but paleo has really redefined that word for me. ;)) I eat 2-4 tbsp of pure beef gelatin most days without any effect, but I am susceptible to placebos in that if I think it'll do something, it's more likely to, so maybe after I read the article... :) And I've been meaning to see what magnesium does for me, so I'll give that a shot, too! Thanks again.

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44348571d9bc70c02ac2975cc500f154

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on March 19, 2012
at 08:32 AM

Some road cycling to forrest gather some berries, there in nature 2-5 hours. Big salad of some seaweed/nettles, blueberries as desert. A pound of salmon, That makes me happy man and sleep well. So i am waiting for summer so i can have the real salmon and wild berries.

44348571d9bc70c02ac2975cc500f154

(5853)

on March 19, 2012
at 08:46 AM

must be all the good bacteria in wild berries that makes us feel better :) http://cavingnews.com/20120210-mood-enhancing-bacteria-mycobacterium-vaccae-found-in-soil

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246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

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on March 19, 2012
at 03:10 AM

Contrast showers prebed, zma, and yogi bedtime tea pretty much knock me out.

Having a very empty stomach prebed helps as well, that means combining lunch and dinner at around 5pm and not eating in the evening.

D3e2d42bef585ff98d8ab62631bf487a

(10)

on March 19, 2012
at 08:45 AM

I think these are great ideas. I recently realized that an empty stomach helps, allowing for a light snack for blood sugar balance. I find contrast showers stimulating and relaxing (like green tea) in the daytime, so I will now try one at night.

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8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on March 19, 2012
at 12:59 AM

CT. Hands down winner on the sleep front. If you don't like it yet, just try the face dunks. It is easy, but you won't believe how much it helps until you try it.

D2936f57e5478aa96837a3fdb4691f57

(28)

on March 19, 2012
at 04:05 AM

Could you elaborate on what a CT is?

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on March 19, 2012
at 04:05 AM

hi Loon, i take it CT is Cold Therapy. to help with sleep, when do you do the face dunks?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 19, 2012
at 04:51 AM

Oi. We are all different aren't we? That would cause me to spike serious adrenaline and I'd be up for 4-5 hrs.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on March 21, 2012
at 12:21 AM

LLiM, that's what I thought until I tried it

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on March 21, 2012
at 12:20 AM

cold thermogenesis

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on March 21, 2012
at 03:57 AM

Loon, did/do the face dunks improve your sleep? does it matter when you do them ie. do you need to do them before bed to help with sleep?

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on March 22, 2012
at 03:30 AM

the face dunks are great for sleep. I do it in the late afternoon, only because I have it is a convenient time.

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80890193d74240cab6dda920665bfb6c

(1528)

on March 18, 2012
at 11:36 PM

Depends on the cause. If you're anxious, for example, stressful thoughts keep you up: try experimenting with some combo of 600-1,200 mg inositol, 750-1,500 GABA, 500 5-HTP, 50-100 B6, and 400-800 mag or mag/cal. Etc.

D3e2d42bef585ff98d8ab62631bf487a

(10)

on March 19, 2012
at 08:41 AM

I like this except the B6 gives some people insomnia.

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