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Weston Price dental question

Answered on August 27, 2014
Created March 31, 2012 at 11:40 PM

I have read through the fabulous book, Nutrition and physical degeneration, by Price, but have been unable to find specific food sources that would allow many tropical cultures (melanesians, eg.) to acquire high amounts of calcium. He made special reference to activator vitamins that these people would get from the sea, supposedly in higher amounts than pastoralists (seeing as how they got tons more calcium from high dairy intake). I chcked certain vitamins and minerals out, like k2 is supposedly available in scant amounts from most sea foods, and minerals like zinc which are high in sea foods are also found in abundance in land animals. So i'm wondering if anyone has a better understanding to this---how are those tropical cultures getting enough calcium and/or what are the activators Price refers to coming from the sea. Thanks again for any input!

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on April 01, 2012
at 09:06 PM

lol It's a Nawlin's phrase. "Pinch the tail, and suck the head" concerning crawfish

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on April 01, 2012
at 09:02 PM

http://www.westonaprice.org/food-features/crab-a-high-vitamin-food-of-the-sea

Dfeb3c1ef269c5dc03154d1689c14373

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on April 01, 2012
at 02:29 PM

what heads and where are you getting your activator data from?

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on April 01, 2012
at 02:28 PM

so you're saying the soul purpose this guy went around the world for, to understand the dental status of primitive cultures and factors why the might me more or less susceptible to tooth carries, and he forgot to mention that certain peoples ate bone broths and fish heads? are you joking? he mentioned every food, every color of the food, even how foods were obtained with painstaking detail. And most vegetables have tons of oxalates that prevent calcium absorption. give specific examples for these areas if you're going with the vegetable theory

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on April 01, 2012
at 12:17 PM

A lot of tribes eat small fishes with bones or make broth type things. He probably didn't mention that they eat fish heads either, which is a very important part of there diet. All plant food gives you calcium and that adds up pretty fast.

Dfeb3c1ef269c5dc03154d1689c14373

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on April 01, 2012
at 02:49 AM

p.s. who could ever eat a kg of gonads?

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on April 01, 2012
at 02:48 AM

that article says the richest sources of k2 in seafood is the organs and gonads. he then follows up by stating "Gonads are one of the richest sources of K2 MK-4 in fish, containing 5-10 micrograms of MK-4 per kilogram of tissue". Meanwhile hard cheeses contain 76 mcg/100g.....so 5-10mcg isn't very significant....Stephan even says so..."... Even that is not really an impressive concentration. (in regards to the 5-10mcg in fish gonads)"

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on April 01, 2012
at 01:55 AM

i read food and western disease, by Lindeberg, and there was no mention of bones from my memory.... and i'm pretty sure vegetables would have to be consumed in mass (not realistic) amounts to get significant amounts of calcium--i think it'd be like 10+ cups of kale for the rda.

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on April 01, 2012
at 02:16 AM

K2 is abundant in seafood but you have to eat the organ meats (like fish liver) to get it.

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/01/seafood-and-vitamin-k2.html

Dfeb3c1ef269c5dc03154d1689c14373

(716)

on April 01, 2012
at 02:48 AM

that article says the richest sources of k2 in seafood is the organs and gonads. he then follows up by stating "Gonads are one of the richest sources of K2 MK-4 in fish, containing 5-10 micrograms of MK-4 per kilogram of tissue". Meanwhile hard cheeses contain 76 mcg/100g.....so 5-10mcg isn't very significant....Stephan even says so..."... Even that is not really an impressive concentration. (in regards to the 5-10mcg in fish gonads)"

Dfeb3c1ef269c5dc03154d1689c14373

(716)

on April 01, 2012
at 02:49 AM

p.s. who could ever eat a kg of gonads?

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on August 27, 2014
at 02:25 AM

I highly doubt that any traditional people threw away any part of an animal--they consumed every bit in one form or another--nose to tail.   Likewise every edible portion of a plant would have been eaten.    Since they managed to survive and thrive, their nutritional needs must have been met by the traditional diets. 

People are obligate omnivores despite what vegan pundits would have you think.  There's a reson that we are omnivores, because essential nutrients humans need don't exist in a single class of food. 

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on August 27, 2014
at 01:18 AM

you still need magnesium. vegetables provide calcium, magnesium, and in presence of fats, vitamin A. Vitamin K2 comes in significant amounts from vegetables via K1 conversion in the gut.

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on August 26, 2014
at 04:19 AM

Price recomends > cod liver oil + high vitamin butter (Activator X)

Activator X = K2

cod liver oil = Vitamins A & D, Omega 3, Iodine

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on April 01, 2012
at 01:31 PM

Supposedly the coral from shellfish like lobster, crawfish, or crab might have those activators in them. Most people just eat the claw and tail meat though. Dont just pinch the tail, Suck those heads!!!

Dfeb3c1ef269c5dc03154d1689c14373

(716)

on April 01, 2012
at 02:29 PM

what heads and where are you getting your activator data from?

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

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on April 01, 2012
at 09:06 PM

lol It's a Nawlin's phrase. "Pinch the tail, and suck the head" concerning crawfish

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on April 01, 2012
at 09:02 PM

http://www.westonaprice.org/food-features/crab-a-high-vitamin-food-of-the-sea

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on April 01, 2012
at 01:50 AM

bones, vegetables etc.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

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on April 01, 2012
at 12:17 PM

A lot of tribes eat small fishes with bones or make broth type things. He probably didn't mention that they eat fish heads either, which is a very important part of there diet. All plant food gives you calcium and that adds up pretty fast.

Dfeb3c1ef269c5dc03154d1689c14373

(716)

on April 01, 2012
at 01:55 AM

i read food and western disease, by Lindeberg, and there was no mention of bones from my memory.... and i'm pretty sure vegetables would have to be consumed in mass (not realistic) amounts to get significant amounts of calcium--i think it'd be like 10+ cups of kale for the rda.

Dfeb3c1ef269c5dc03154d1689c14373

(716)

on April 01, 2012
at 02:28 PM

so you're saying the soul purpose this guy went around the world for, to understand the dental status of primitive cultures and factors why the might me more or less susceptible to tooth carries, and he forgot to mention that certain peoples ate bone broths and fish heads? are you joking? he mentioned every food, every color of the food, even how foods were obtained with painstaking detail. And most vegetables have tons of oxalates that prevent calcium absorption. give specific examples for these areas if you're going with the vegetable theory

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