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The Food Pyramid has been replaced with a plate. What do you think, pro and con?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created June 02, 2011 at 4:34 PM

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21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

Good observation. You might even recall this graphic and forget the grain portion. In fact, if you change "protein" to "meat", and take out the grain, the plate is not so shabby at all.

6714718e2245e5190017d643a7614157

on April 20, 2012
at 11:35 PM

+1 I like how you answer your own questions with really good answers.

Ec7cb2a7a68655954a01f03e95be1383

(1453)

on January 11, 2012
at 12:39 AM

And how are they able to eat all the piled up stuff without a knife? It's a mess.

E7e57f3e3a156df4072ca85d463f8ed3

(358)

on January 10, 2012
at 11:35 PM

They may also wish they did not eliminate the third dimension - people may just pile the wedges on their plates higher and higher.

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on June 05, 2011
at 10:06 AM

No problem! It is great that we had the same thought...

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(19469)

on June 04, 2011
at 10:07 PM

Lol! I did say that it was MY paleo plate!

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

(6097)

on June 04, 2011
at 06:41 PM

Why do you guys act so surprised?

446d2dddaeeccb2cc31a09cf20e40d46

(676)

on June 04, 2011
at 03:08 PM

10% coffee & cocao? xD LOL Nice one anyway :p

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(5136)

on June 04, 2011
at 02:16 PM

I thought Clippy was the blade-handed man. Then i saw the paperclip. Doh!. Clippy is not so scary after all.

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(19469)

on June 04, 2011
at 12:01 PM

Thanks! I showed it to my wife and she asked me why there was an "arrow" pointing up. I said, "Arrow? That's a spear!"

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on June 04, 2011
at 03:14 AM

Your awesomeness has no bounds, Kamal.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 04, 2011
at 02:25 AM

Shoot I didn't read all the comments before I wrote the same thing. Upvote anyway!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 04, 2011
at 02:24 AM

That is great! Upvote!

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(5639)

on June 04, 2011
at 01:11 AM

She shouldn't be giving ANYONE health advice, let alone telling us that it's ok to be fat, don't worry, you're healthy at ANY size.

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(5639)

on June 04, 2011
at 01:07 AM

I hope the blade-handed man stabs clippy in the eyes!

1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

(6235)

on June 03, 2011
at 06:35 PM

@Lizzish My Cheats tend to come in separate meals :) If we have 21 meals a week 4 can be cheat meals and I am still eating 80% paleo

2c8c421cf0e0c462654c7dc37f8b9711

(2729)

on June 03, 2011
at 06:27 PM

perfect, except you're missing the big ole "CHEAT!!!!" side dish. Other than that, I like it.

1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

(6235)

on June 03, 2011
at 12:16 PM

@Tracy Aww thanks!

8c5533ffe71bd4262fedc7e898ead1ba

(1724)

on June 03, 2011
at 11:45 AM

I like your Paleo version, even if it is a little graphically challenged ;-)

22212e9ba2a041e6da6c963d4d41615a

(5773)

on June 03, 2011
at 11:11 AM

I think it should read as a calcium grou not a dairy group. That seems to be the only criteria.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on June 03, 2011
at 03:33 AM

Clippy now appears to the right of the old pyramid, for no great reason.

60199d3a580a4e17969059609e48e678

(883)

on June 03, 2011
at 03:21 AM

I had my own version of the food guide at one point that looked similar to yours but unfortunately I never saved the picture. blast it haha! its a good guideline!

34a367e60db77270bd7096dc04270fdc

(4171)

on June 03, 2011
at 03:17 AM

I've never seen that before tartare, that was hilarious! +1 for the laugh

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(5136)

on June 03, 2011
at 03:04 AM

lol, you know his name? uh oh... i see a bad 80s movie horror spoof in the works

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on June 03, 2011
at 02:59 AM

Omg. Friggen clippy. My work computers are so old he still haunts me.

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(5136)

on June 03, 2011
at 02:41 AM

Futureboy, have you ever seen Lewis Blacks rant about milk, which includes a bit about soymilk? here it is (i just adore Lewis Black): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCZRXW-pFcE

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on June 03, 2011
at 02:33 AM

too bad he has blades for hands, meaning he can only eat things that he can stab. no soymilk i guess :(

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(5136)

on June 03, 2011
at 02:10 AM

no mention of fat whatsoever, despite many nutrients being fat soluble. pretty pathetic. I guess you don't need to absorb nutrients. Who knew? not me.

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(5136)

on June 03, 2011
at 02:08 AM

it kind of looks like the stick figure is looking for the food going up the stairs, and if only he looked BEHIND the stairs, he might find it. Kind of like how i feel about food charts/pyramids/polygons/plates etc.

1398eff69b192c35de5e0dbaad59052a

(2024)

on June 03, 2011
at 01:13 AM

I think it's on the protein page. Yep, Organ meats: liver giblets

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on June 03, 2011
at 01:11 AM

Good catch, if you include corn and soy in the vegetable section. Gotta watch out for that utensil lobby though...

2ab6415f5f20b8fe1d34a94c7be85e6a

on June 03, 2011
at 12:37 AM

ya and the cadaver for the surgeries we'll be "needing"

Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

(17969)

on June 03, 2011
at 12:04 AM

But where are we going to get the fat for our mojo? 1% milk and chicken breast + that...? Viagra must have a hand in this.

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

(7314)

on June 02, 2011
at 10:35 PM

Starchy tubers aren't vegetables?

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

(7314)

on June 02, 2011
at 10:33 PM

Organ meats?? Where did you find that?

C4134ed417dbc0a6b79ab2cee32632d3

(1801)

on June 02, 2011
at 09:56 PM

I'm in the UK & we have the "eatwell plate". Looks like this new plate is kind of based on that.

34a367e60db77270bd7096dc04270fdc

(4171)

on June 02, 2011
at 07:53 PM

Yeah they call chicken nuggets protein also - or it seems so anyway since they love to serve it in the public schools as the "protein".

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(5639)

on June 02, 2011
at 07:08 PM

HAHAHA soymilk is dairy now?!

64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

(15236)

on June 02, 2011
at 06:59 PM

organ meat are back in? I thought they were 'out' cause of the cholesterol. lol

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on June 02, 2011
at 06:34 PM

Nutrition information is theoretically a public good -- nonexcludable and nonrival information that can help everyone and requires cooperative research. However, that is assuming an objective government and lack of corporate idiots influencing research agendas.

91c2e2a35e578e2e79ce7d631b753879

(2081)

on June 02, 2011
at 06:30 PM

Yeah, but the government's idea of "vegetables" includes things like corn and legumes and starchy tubers, none of which are actually vegetables and carry one hell of a carbohydrate load.

1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

(6235)

on June 02, 2011
at 06:01 PM

Ok now I wanna see the Paleo Plate with the stick of butter on the side.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on June 02, 2011
at 05:57 PM

The milk is so low fat that it looks like water.

4b61b13ed39e5c5d01fe234900cadcf8

(1138)

on June 02, 2011
at 05:51 PM

Definitely the less help the government gives, the better... it forces people to search out info for themselves (hopefully). And I didn't notice the grain thing until you pointed it out- it definitely is less prominent on the plate. When they used the pyramid back in the old days the whole big bottom was grains!

776bb678d88f7194b0fa0e5146df14f0

(1069)

on June 02, 2011
at 05:38 PM

I think the dairy is supposed to be a glass of milk. A glass of SKIM milk. Gross. I'd rather have a rectangular yellow "butter" stick dairy ratio thing.

34a367e60db77270bd7096dc04270fdc

(4171)

on June 02, 2011
at 05:25 PM

I'm sorry for those of us with gluten intolerance and autoimmune disorders we're just screwed. This is what a healthy plate of food is now.

34a367e60db77270bd7096dc04270fdc

(4171)

on June 02, 2011
at 05:23 PM

Wow I didn't even notice until I saw your comment, they completely removed fat from the plate wtf?!

07ca188c8dac3a17f629dd87198d2098

(7970)

on June 02, 2011
at 04:58 PM

FATS ARE BAD! DUH! ;-)

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on June 02, 2011
at 04:55 PM

Funny! I miss the stick figure in the same way that I miss Clippy from Microsoft Office 2003.

24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

(9812)

on June 02, 2011
at 04:54 PM

Haha! I miss the stick figure; that fork just ain't doing it for me :(

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34a367e60db77270bd7096dc04270fdc

(4171)

on June 02, 2011
at 05:26 PM

Hey! Where is the wedge for all of the god damned pills we're going to be given for all of our disorders caused by the other wedges of food?!

2ab6415f5f20b8fe1d34a94c7be85e6a

on June 03, 2011
at 12:37 AM

ya and the cadaver for the surgeries we'll be "needing"

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21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on June 02, 2011
at 04:41 PM

I think it's leaps and bounds ahead of the jumbled mass that was MyPyramid. Especially with that stick figure jivin' up the stairs.

the-food-pyramid-has-been-replaced-with-a-plate.-what-do-you-think,-pro-and-con? the-food-pyramid-has-been-replaced-with-a-plate.-what-do-you-think,-pro-and-con?

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(5136)

on June 03, 2011
at 03:04 AM

lol, you know his name? uh oh... i see a bad 80s movie horror spoof in the works

Medium avatar

(5136)

on June 03, 2011
at 02:08 AM

it kind of looks like the stick figure is looking for the food going up the stairs, and if only he looked BEHIND the stairs, he might find it. Kind of like how i feel about food charts/pyramids/polygons/plates etc.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on June 03, 2011
at 02:33 AM

too bad he has blades for hands, meaning he can only eat things that he can stab. no soymilk i guess :(

24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

(9812)

on June 02, 2011
at 04:54 PM

Haha! I miss the stick figure; that fork just ain't doing it for me :(

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on June 02, 2011
at 04:55 PM

Funny! I miss the stick figure in the same way that I miss Clippy from Microsoft Office 2003.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on June 03, 2011
at 03:33 AM

Clippy now appears to the right of the old pyramid, for no great reason.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on June 04, 2011
at 03:14 AM

Your awesomeness has no bounds, Kamal.

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(5136)

on June 04, 2011
at 02:16 PM

I thought Clippy was the blade-handed man. Then i saw the paperclip. Doh!. Clippy is not so scary after all.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on June 03, 2011
at 02:59 AM

Omg. Friggen clippy. My work computers are so old he still haunts me.

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(5639)

on June 04, 2011
at 01:07 AM

I hope the blade-handed man stabs clippy in the eyes!

6714718e2245e5190017d643a7614157

on April 20, 2012
at 11:35 PM

+1 I like how you answer your own questions with really good answers.

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1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

(6235)

on June 02, 2011
at 04:52 PM

I like the graphic design, but I am not sure it is easy to use. Comparing the amount of dairy is hard because it is a different shape. It is also interesting to note fats and oils are gone all together, are they just not something you discuss in polite company anymore?

Edited to add: This is my terrible effort at a paleo version to see how I react to the format as opposed to the information.

the-food-pyramid-has-been-replaced-with-a-plate.-what-do-you-think,-pro-and-con?

And it does seem pretty easy to use when I see it that way.

It is also clear that I should never try for a career in graphic design

60199d3a580a4e17969059609e48e678

(883)

on June 03, 2011
at 03:21 AM

I had my own version of the food guide at one point that looked similar to yours but unfortunately I never saved the picture. blast it haha! its a good guideline!

1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

(6235)

on June 02, 2011
at 06:01 PM

Ok now I wanna see the Paleo Plate with the stick of butter on the side.

776bb678d88f7194b0fa0e5146df14f0

(1069)

on June 02, 2011
at 05:38 PM

I think the dairy is supposed to be a glass of milk. A glass of SKIM milk. Gross. I'd rather have a rectangular yellow "butter" stick dairy ratio thing.

07ca188c8dac3a17f629dd87198d2098

(7970)

on June 02, 2011
at 04:58 PM

FATS ARE BAD! DUH! ;-)

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on June 02, 2011
at 05:57 PM

The milk is so low fat that it looks like water.

Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

(17969)

on June 03, 2011
at 12:04 AM

But where are we going to get the fat for our mojo? 1% milk and chicken breast + that...? Viagra must have a hand in this.

8c5533ffe71bd4262fedc7e898ead1ba

(1724)

on June 03, 2011
at 11:45 AM

I like your Paleo version, even if it is a little graphically challenged ;-)

1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

(6235)

on June 03, 2011
at 06:35 PM

@Lizzish My Cheats tend to come in separate meals :) If we have 21 meals a week 4 can be cheat meals and I am still eating 80% paleo

34a367e60db77270bd7096dc04270fdc

(4171)

on June 02, 2011
at 05:23 PM

Wow I didn't even notice until I saw your comment, they completely removed fat from the plate wtf?!

2c8c421cf0e0c462654c7dc37f8b9711

(2729)

on June 03, 2011
at 06:27 PM

perfect, except you're missing the big ole "CHEAT!!!!" side dish. Other than that, I like it.

1568416ef28477d1fa29046218d83ddd

(6235)

on June 03, 2011
at 12:16 PM

@Tracy Aww thanks!

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9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

on June 02, 2011
at 05:10 PM

That's one of the stupidest things I've ever seen.

One diet fits all?

No mention at all of fats of any kind -- good, bad, how much?

Dairy products only fit in a cup?

No mention at all of gluten intolerance or the concept that grains may be bad for some people? Everyone should fill their plate 1/4 with grains every meal? If I did that I'd be in the bathroom 45 minutes later.

Ok so it's simple. It has that going for it. "Make things as simple as possible, but not simpler." - Albert Einstein

34a367e60db77270bd7096dc04270fdc

(4171)

on June 02, 2011
at 05:25 PM

I'm sorry for those of us with gluten intolerance and autoimmune disorders we're just screwed. This is what a healthy plate of food is now.

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(5136)

on June 03, 2011
at 02:10 AM

no mention of fat whatsoever, despite many nutrients being fat soluble. pretty pathetic. I guess you don't need to absorb nutrients. Who knew? not me.

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

(6097)

on June 04, 2011
at 06:41 PM

Why do you guys act so surprised?

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145d4b0f988af15acc6b26eccc1f4895

on June 02, 2011
at 06:14 PM

Why is the government telling us what to eat, anyway?

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on June 02, 2011
at 06:34 PM

Nutrition information is theoretically a public good -- nonexcludable and nonrival information that can help everyone and requires cooperative research. However, that is assuming an objective government and lack of corporate idiots influencing research agendas.

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776bb678d88f7194b0fa0e5146df14f0

on June 02, 2011
at 05:33 PM

More balance is better than the original food pyramid. Obviously we on PaleoHacks are going to disagree with the ratios (and as mentioned by Vrimj, the deletion of fat), but the egalitarian pie shape doesn't put grains in a position of importance anymore, which is an improvement over all in my mind.

Also, this looks way less informative than the food pyramid used to. The less information the government gives on nutrition, the better.

Edit: Was reading through the informational aspect of the website. The dairy section is particularly atrocious:

All fluid milk products and many foods made from milk are considered part of this food group. Most Dairy Group choices should be fat-free or low-fat. Foods made from milk that retain their calcium content are part of the group. Foods made from milk that have little to no calcium, such as cream cheese, cream, and butter, are not. Calcium-fortified soymilk (soy beverage) is also part of the Dairy Group.

Dairy Section

Since when is soymilk a dairy product?

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(5136)

on June 03, 2011
at 02:41 AM

Futureboy, have you ever seen Lewis Blacks rant about milk, which includes a bit about soymilk? here it is (i just adore Lewis Black): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCZRXW-pFcE

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

Good observation. You might even recall this graphic and forget the grain portion. In fact, if you change "protein" to "meat", and take out the grain, the plate is not so shabby at all.

4b61b13ed39e5c5d01fe234900cadcf8

(1138)

on June 02, 2011
at 05:51 PM

Definitely the less help the government gives, the better... it forces people to search out info for themselves (hopefully). And I didn't notice the grain thing until you pointed it out- it definitely is less prominent on the plate. When they used the pyramid back in the old days the whole big bottom was grains!

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(5639)

on June 02, 2011
at 07:08 PM

HAHAHA soymilk is dairy now?!

34a367e60db77270bd7096dc04270fdc

(4171)

on June 03, 2011
at 03:17 AM

I've never seen that before tartare, that was hilarious! +1 for the laugh

22212e9ba2a041e6da6c963d4d41615a

(5773)

on June 03, 2011
at 11:11 AM

I think it should read as a calcium grou not a dairy group. That seems to be the only criteria.

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8d1ce78fe7071f2f60fd59365bf21cfc

(580)

on June 03, 2011
at 09:51 AM

one of my favorite paleo-blogger just posted this. i think it's t-shirt material.

www.fitbomb.com

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rTj3ZgtUIWE/TegFX8RRQAI/AAAAAAAAANE/z8nBOl3Gnu8/s1600/notthathardpeople.jpg

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1d952d225819b0229e93160a90bf9bf8

on June 02, 2011
at 11:34 PM

So the government recommends for a 5'3 140 pound active woman..three cups of veggies,two cups of fruit(remember fiber-less fruit and vegetable juices count as a serving!),three glasses of skim milk(water), a tiny fat-less portion of"meat" or beans,then fill the hole with nutritionally void grain products.Umm yeah that's how I got up to 200 pounds in the first place.

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03fa485bfd54734522755f47a5e6597e

(3944)

on June 02, 2011
at 06:00 PM

This needs a demotivational caption: Deck chairs, let us rearrange them.

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76a7fff9c1c65b8aa3a0326defdd7483

on June 02, 2011
at 05:48 PM

So its like this now: green beans on the veggie part, caramel apple on the fruit part, ramen noodles for the grains, and tofu for the protein? Oh, yeah...wash it down with lowfat chocolate milk. Sounds balanced and healthy right? You can use a fork to stab all that, right?

This is just as useless as the pyramid.

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on June 03, 2011
at 12:21 AM

The relative size of the sections represent the current lobbying budget of the various producers.

Come on, Dairy, pick up the pace!

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on June 03, 2011
at 01:11 AM

Good catch, if you include corn and soy in the vegetable section. Gotta watch out for that utensil lobby though...

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0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on June 02, 2011
at 07:01 PM

Good concept - but it's still the "everything in moderation" mentality. I like the idea of adding a graphic for the daily pills I see my SAD eating family taking - statins, metformin, synthroid, beta blockers, and on and on and on.

EDIT - from http://nomnompaleo.com/post/6125536089/hey-myplate-this-is-my-plate

the-food-pyramid-has-been-replaced-with-a-plate.-what-do-you-think,-pro-and-con?

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1398eff69b192c35de5e0dbaad59052a

(2024)

on June 02, 2011
at 06:00 PM

There's some good stuff in there, like the recommendation to eat organ meats and 8 oz of seafood a week. And how can you quibble with eating more vegetables and not drinking sugary drinks?

But they reiterate conventional wisdom re fats, and call them empty calories. They do say that some fats are necessary, but they're all about the PUFAs.

Here's the fat allowance table: http://www.choosemyplate.gov/foodgroups/oils_allowance_table.html

According to which, i should eat no more than 5 tsp of fat per day.

Then there's this, which gives teaspoons in common foods: http://www.choosemyplate.gov/foodgroups/oils_count_table.html

According to which, if I eat one avocado, I've blown my recommended allowance by 1 tsp, and can't eat any other fat that day Is that just me, or is that crazy???

Okay, I am super geeky. I took the menu from the first day here: http://www.choosemyplate.gov/downloads/Sample_Menus-2000Cals-DG2010.pdf

Then I ran it through cron-o-meter, because I was curious. Here's the breakdown: Calories: 2031 Protein: 102g Carbs: 252g Lipids: 72g

Vitamins and minerals good, slight shortage (if you follow this to the T) on B5, Iron, and Potassium.

Lipids: Saturated: 18.2 Mono: 30.5 Poly 17.8 (horrible breakdown: Omega 3 .9; Omega 6 16.7) Cholesterol: 127.3

64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

(15236)

on June 02, 2011
at 06:59 PM

organ meat are back in? I thought they were 'out' cause of the cholesterol. lol

1398eff69b192c35de5e0dbaad59052a

(2024)

on June 03, 2011
at 01:13 AM

I think it's on the protein page. Yep, Organ meats: liver giblets

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

(7314)

on June 02, 2011
at 10:33 PM

Organ meats?? Where did you find that?

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 04, 2011
at 02:18 AM

Maybe it should read: Gov.Choosemyplate instead of Choosemyplate.Gov?

Where's the fat? There's no fat on my plate!

Are there foods that overlap the categories? yes! Too simplistic this plate.

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Medium avatar

(19469)

on June 04, 2011
at 01:05 AM

It took me a bit of fiddling around, but I think I got the USDA beat.

Check out the USDA Plate vs the Paleo Plate

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(19469)

on June 04, 2011
at 10:07 PM

Lol! I did say that it was MY paleo plate!

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(19469)

on June 04, 2011
at 12:01 PM

Thanks! I showed it to my wife and she asked me why there was an "arrow" pointing up. I said, "Arrow? That's a spear!"

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 04, 2011
at 02:24 AM

That is great! Upvote!

446d2dddaeeccb2cc31a09cf20e40d46

(676)

on June 04, 2011
at 03:08 PM

10% coffee & cocao? xD LOL Nice one anyway :p

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D0501f0cc09c961a06c3d188361e7b07

on June 03, 2011
at 07:15 AM

Should the Surgeon General be advising the public on nutrition or the USDA?

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on June 04, 2011
at 01:11 AM

She shouldn't be giving ANYONE health advice, let alone telling us that it's ok to be fat, don't worry, you're healthy at ANY size.

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1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on June 03, 2011
at 05:25 AM

This is just aweful.... I wish they would stop publishing bad guidlines. And it feels so good to vent about it. :-)

their URL:

ChooseMyPlate.gov

How about:

Goverment choose my plate...

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(78467)

on June 04, 2011
at 02:25 AM

Shoot I didn't read all the comments before I wrote the same thing. Upvote anyway!

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on June 05, 2011
at 10:06 AM

No problem! It is great that we had the same thought...

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on June 02, 2011
at 09:46 PM

The Dairy plate is touching the meat plate so I will have to bury it in the backyard till conventional wisdom dies off. Then I will dig them up and frame it as "dumb dietary advice". It is no longer just "where's the beef?" but "where's the fat?".

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on June 02, 2011
at 06:08 PM

I think it is leaps and bounds better than before. For one, it is actually readable. A legit pie chart would be easier to compare- I find myself seeing 4 90 degree angle slices and thinking '25% each'. Sure, I completely can't eat dairy and I'd love to see 'Grain' changed to 'Fat', but it is an improvement to be sure. Better yet, roll the right side of the plate (Grains and Protein) into 'Meat'), kill the dairy, and we're off!

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on January 10, 2012
at 11:21 PM

The symbol is reminiscent of preschool and undermines adult intelligence. We read entire books with printed words about diet/exercise fads.

Fruits & vegetables are 50%, but it appears perhaps fruits & protein are each 20% and grains and vegetables are each 30%. The plate is not divided into quarters. What is the official size of the cup?

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/food-plate-replace-food-pyramid/story?id=13726798

"They also hope that in addition to being simpler, the new symbol will place a greater emphasis on the need for physical activity. Experts also hope the new symbol and its messages about proper nutrition don't ignore the need for exercise." Without a figure running up a pyramid, how is this accomplished with the new symbol?

"It answers the simple question, 'What should my plate look like at any given meal?'" Yet actual meals often mix those nicely divided sections, as in a chicken salad or lasagne.

"The symbol should also be small, representing the need for smaller portion sizes." The symbol is a graphic. If it appears on a billboard, I assume it will be larger than on an information phamplet I might receive in the mail.

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(1453)

on January 11, 2012
at 12:39 AM

And how are they able to eat all the piled up stuff without a knife? It's a mess.

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(358)

on January 10, 2012
at 11:35 PM

They may also wish they did not eliminate the third dimension - people may just pile the wedges on their plates higher and higher.

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on June 03, 2011
at 03:24 AM

I think its a step in the right direction, its still in its juvenile stages. Give it some time to mature :p

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(130)

on June 02, 2011
at 06:13 PM

I love the concept of the plate, much easier to apply for people. I like that vegetables and fruits are now recommended in higher doses than grains. I don't like that grains and dairy don't have "minimal" caveats with them. I hate they are not using macronutrients!

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(7314)

on June 02, 2011
at 10:35 PM

Starchy tubers aren't vegetables?

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(2081)

on June 02, 2011
at 06:30 PM

Yeah, but the government's idea of "vegetables" includes things like corn and legumes and starchy tubers, none of which are actually vegetables and carry one hell of a carbohydrate load.

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(4171)

on June 02, 2011
at 07:53 PM

Yeah they call chicken nuggets protein also - or it seems so anyway since they love to serve it in the public schools as the "protein".

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