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My fat-phobic parents throw out my fat sources! Help?

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Created January 23, 2012 at 2:28 AM

My parent is Asian and they freak out about everything the doctor says regarding health. So basically they throw out my bacon and sausage reserve which I eat constantly as a source of fat. They only eat skinny meat most of the time fearing fat like if it is something that will kill them. So I am eating rice and noodle a lot lately cause there is nothing to eat in the house that is paleo related. I am feeling horrible without any fat in my diet and my body is disliking it a lot. What can I do? I am in a bit dilemma since anything said is not credible since I am not a doctor or expert according to my parents. Where else can I find paleo related food?

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on January 24, 2012
at 08:18 AM

Of course, I just mentioned China because Kai's parents are Chinese and I have lived there for quite some time ;)

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on January 23, 2012
at 10:07 PM

Not just China, there's multiple examples to point at where adoption of an American/Western diet has done more damage than traditional. The Mediterranean diets and the Okinawan diet both point out rising obesity, diabetes, heart attacks, and stroke with the onset of Americanization of their diets. The Jaminets (in Perfect Health Diet) point out that a standard marker for archaeologists determining when agriculture entered a society is shorter stature, weaker bones, and increased cavities.

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on January 23, 2012
at 12:59 PM

And dont forget whole coconuts, cheap source of good fats and should be available in your area fresh.

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on January 23, 2012
at 12:08 PM

Kai: Here's an idea -- Negotiate with your parents a bit more independence since it is finances that are keeping you from being on your own and you're not just a rebellious teenager. Pay *some* rent, keep a small fridge in your bedroom to store your foods. And at the family table, JitzGrrl has good advice, as well as foods that may be amenable to your parents' taste.

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on January 23, 2012
at 05:46 AM

There's also the TEDTalks video by Dr. Terry Wahls available on Youtube.

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on January 23, 2012
at 03:40 AM

I suppose I can live on my own since I have a job and I did live out of house for a few month before moving back. The rent is so expensive so that is essentially why I moved back. I do eat a lot of dark chocolate and eggs for sure. Avocado occasionally for sure but not often. Thanks for the advice!

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on January 23, 2012
at 03:25 AM

Buy some cheap paleo food then! Leave the expensive stuff for the people with money to burn.

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on January 23, 2012
at 03:06 AM

Umm well to be specific they are Chinese parents and they are very traditional in terms of food and rules. I do have a job but I don't got all the money for expensive food. Rather gas has sucked me dry mostly and expensive car repairs so I am limited on choices I suppose.

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on January 23, 2012
at 03:03 AM

Good suggestion and there is minimal Paleo restaurants around my area in all honesty. I suppose there is a place that only open up on Saturday. I would love to buy grass cut beef but I am only a student so the price is kind of out of my range.

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on January 23, 2012
at 02:37 AM

well I suppose I have a jar of coconut oil from a friend last month and a cut of meat I can buy for sure. I guess the issue is language barrier and having a stubborn parent that won't believe me. I can't find anything regarding this diet in Mandarin to help alleviate the situation. Much appreciate for your advise I suppose.

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on January 23, 2012
at 02:37 AM

Rice is not the worst thing in the world to eat. Given your limited choices, can you pick around the noodles for the meat and veg? Can you request to make some dinners for the family that involve Asian-style coconut curries? Asian is such a broad term- surely your native dishes include those that involve fat? If all else fails, save your allowance for avocados and coconut oil. You can eat the avocados in your room and mix the coconut oil in your hot coffee or tea. Good luck!

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on January 23, 2012
at 03:25 AM

Buy some cheap paleo food then! Leave the expensive stuff for the people with money to burn.

E6830ffdca55dd510dd80a016a7ce50b

(25)

on January 23, 2012
at 03:06 AM

Umm well to be specific they are Chinese parents and they are very traditional in terms of food and rules. I do have a job but I don't got all the money for expensive food. Rather gas has sucked me dry mostly and expensive car repairs so I am limited on choices I suppose.

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on January 23, 2012
at 02:33 AM

that's a difficult situation. i'm guessing it's not possible to keep a stocked mini-fridge in your room? perhaps you could at least keep some pantry items to supplement -- some coconut oil, canned sardines and salmon, or avocados. even eggs -- which actually don't need to be refrigerated? maybe you could even buy a cut of meat daily that you just prep right when you get home?

E6830ffdca55dd510dd80a016a7ce50b

(25)

on January 23, 2012
at 02:37 AM

well I suppose I have a jar of coconut oil from a friend last month and a cut of meat I can buy for sure. I guess the issue is language barrier and having a stubborn parent that won't believe me. I can't find anything regarding this diet in Mandarin to help alleviate the situation. Much appreciate for your advise I suppose.

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on January 23, 2012
at 12:22 PM

If your parents are Chinese and traditional they should know that traditional Chinese cuisine is certainly not low in fat, especially animal fats. In many dishes like dongporou one eats much more fat than lean meat, beijing kaoya is almost entirely the fatty skin. Or what about huoguo? The meat they put inside is very fatty. Granted, nowadays they use much more cheap vegetable oils but it's easy to see a rise in obesity and western diseases since they adopted a western styl diet :)

1a641bbff1a7b0a70f08410376bbdf6b

(1587)

on January 24, 2012
at 08:18 AM

Of course, I just mentioned China because Kai's parents are Chinese and I have lived there for quite some time ;)

Medium avatar

(2923)

on January 23, 2012
at 10:07 PM

Not just China, there's multiple examples to point at where adoption of an American/Western diet has done more damage than traditional. The Mediterranean diets and the Okinawan diet both point out rising obesity, diabetes, heart attacks, and stroke with the onset of Americanization of their diets. The Jaminets (in Perfect Health Diet) point out that a standard marker for archaeologists determining when agriculture entered a society is shorter stature, weaker bones, and increased cavities.

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on January 23, 2012
at 02:49 AM

Don't eat the noodles, do eat the rice. Eat loads of veggies. When you are at family dinner, you'll be fine with meat, vegetables, rice. Eggs are a decent source of fat with their protein. Avocados are fatty...perhaps your mom will allow those?

I eat almost no bacon and almost no sausage, myself- maybe we can switch houses?

You can keep coconut oil, canned coconut milk, super dark chocolate, nuts, even avocados or canned fish in your room or backpack if it is that much of a problem. But if you're still living with your parents and they're paying for everything, just do the best you can. Many of us ate a horrible diet for decades; if you can just avoid wheat, margarine, and too much soy just eat produce, meat, and rice like crazy for these couple of years and do better when you're on your own.

E6830ffdca55dd510dd80a016a7ce50b

(25)

on January 23, 2012
at 03:40 AM

I suppose I can live on my own since I have a job and I did live out of house for a few month before moving back. The rent is so expensive so that is essentially why I moved back. I do eat a lot of dark chocolate and eggs for sure. Avocado occasionally for sure but not often. Thanks for the advice!

24df4e0d0e7ce98963d4641fae1a60e5

on January 23, 2012
at 12:08 PM

Kai: Here's an idea -- Negotiate with your parents a bit more independence since it is finances that are keeping you from being on your own and you're not just a rebellious teenager. Pay *some* rent, keep a small fridge in your bedroom to store your foods. And at the family table, JitzGrrl has good advice, as well as foods that may be amenable to your parents' taste.

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on January 23, 2012
at 02:43 AM

Try adding other sources of fat.

  • avocado
  • coconut milk
  • coconut oil
  • almonds
  • macadamia nuts
  • eggs
  • cocoa butter
  • olive oil (not cooked)

Can you eat any meals outside of the home? Perhaps you can find a local restaurant that uses grass-fed beef and get a meal there from time to time?

44348571d9bc70c02ac2975cc500f154

(5853)

on January 23, 2012
at 12:59 PM

And dont forget whole coconuts, cheap source of good fats and should be available in your area fresh.

E6830ffdca55dd510dd80a016a7ce50b

(25)

on January 23, 2012
at 03:03 AM

Good suggestion and there is minimal Paleo restaurants around my area in all honesty. I suppose there is a place that only open up on Saturday. I would love to buy grass cut beef but I am only a student so the price is kind of out of my range.

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on January 23, 2012
at 02:15 PM

Maybe you can explain to your parents that you've read all of this stuff about ancestral diets, tell them there are many studies done, and let them know that doctors RARELY receive nutrition training in school, and what they do receive is extremely outdated. Remind them that doctors are NOT scientists. And maybe remind them of traditional Chinese medicine, and how western medicine competely excludes these ancient traditions and that you are wanting to embrace a lifestyle that fits in better with traditional Chinese culture. The way of your ancestors.

Also, tell them you want to live to be older and healthier, so you can take care of them in their old age.

Prepare your case.

When you are done with all of this, tell them you would like to try this way of eating, just for 30 days. If you prepare the evidence, and you approach them respectfully, with the proper amount of knowledge, you may just win them over.

Good luck!

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on January 23, 2012
at 01:46 PM

Hide a jar of coconut oil or coconut cream in your room? The stuff keeps well unrefrigerated - it's even my emergency supplies ( Hey it's useful stuff besides eating!)

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on January 23, 2012
at 11:39 AM

Buy them a copy of Robb Wolf's Paleo Solution book, then throw out all their soy, peanuts, noodles, bread products, and tell them you're trying to save them from the evils of grains and legumes, see how they like it. :)

Obviously not a good thing to do to strict parents, but at least imagining it would make you feel better.

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on January 23, 2012
at 02:36 AM

Do you think they would listen to a book? You could give them The Primal Blueprint or the Paleo Solution. Pictures of vibrantly healthy people and a summary of our evolutionary history from a book might carry some weight.

Or, if computer access is available they might listen to Primal Docs or Chris Kresser or some other credible site?

I also like meret's idea of sardines.

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on January 23, 2012
at 05:46 AM

There's also the TEDTalks video by Dr. Terry Wahls available on Youtube.

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