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My CSA soy dilemma

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Created July 27, 2012 at 1:55 PM

So in my CSA this week we got a small bunch of edamame, and the farmer emailed everyone and asked for feedback because he was thinking about planting more. Well, my feedback was of course a link outlining all of the dangers of soy.

http://www.foodrenegade.com/dangers-of-soy/

He responded that those dangers are from commercial soy and that this organic, biodynamically grown soy is a different strain. I thought(read:know for a fact), that soy is still full of estrogren and phytates even if it is a "different strain."

Should I eat the small bunch of it just this once? I hate wasting food.

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on July 27, 2012
at 04:27 PM

Exactly. Mark says: "Verdict: Not Primal, but don’t stress over a couple handfuls at a sushi restaurant." That was my point. I understand wanting to be super strict about things, but I also think rather than blanket prohibitions, a little more thinking is required. It's probably best to start off by avoiding large categories of potentially problematic foods and as you heal, consider whether or not certain foods are still a problem.

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on July 27, 2012
at 04:09 PM

haha I am pretty sure I wont be loading up on tofu any time soon! We use Fresh and Local CSA from west virgina, we get eggs, fruit and veggies every week for a pretty reasonable price, the only downside is that you have to go and pick up your CSA at a drop point as opposed to having it delivered. freshandlocalcsa.com

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on July 27, 2012
at 04:08 PM

We use Fresh and Local CSA from WV, and so far it has been fantastic. We get eggs, veggies and fruit each week for a really good price, they only downside is that you have to pick up at a drop point instead of having it delivered to your house. http://www.freshandlocalcsa.com/

3ab5e1b9eba22a071f653330b7fc9579

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on July 27, 2012
at 04:05 PM

I wish I could compost here, but there just isnt a way to do it without offending the neighbors, trying to find a place to put trash cans so that we can enjoy our yard is hard enough.

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on July 27, 2012
at 03:57 PM

haha I am pretty sure I wont be loading up on tofu any time soon! n I use Fresh and Local CSA from west virgina, we get eggs, fruit and veggies every week for a pretty reasonable price, the only downside is that you have to go and pick up your CSA at a drop point as opposed to having it delivered. http://www.freshandlocalcsa.com/

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:51 PM

I think how strict you need to be depends on the state of your health. If you have serious health issues, then avoiding them completely is a pretty good idea.

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:13 PM

What CSA are you using? (I'm in Alexandria too!)

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:48 PM

Mark at Mark's Daily Apple had a short article on edamame, and why it's not horrible. Check it out and then make up your mind.

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-paleo-ezekiel-bread-v8-edamame-and-other-foods-scrutinized/#axzz21pnVTQNG

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on July 27, 2012
at 04:27 PM

Exactly. Mark says: "Verdict: Not Primal, but don’t stress over a couple handfuls at a sushi restaurant." That was my point. I understand wanting to be super strict about things, but I also think rather than blanket prohibitions, a little more thinking is required. It's probably best to start off by avoiding large categories of potentially problematic foods and as you heal, consider whether or not certain foods are still a problem.

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:11 PM

I wouldn't. And I would reinforce with your farmer that the risks of soy are part of the PLANT. Yes, commercial GMO soy has a whole other set of issues, but the phytoestrogens and phytates are there regardless of whether it's "organic/biodynamic" soy or GMO commercial soy.

On the 'wasting food' issue -- I'm not big on wasting food either, but I wont' eat something that I am pretty sure will make me sick, just because it's there. I'd rather compost it and use it to feed the soil, instead of using it to feed me. (Soybean IS good for that -- it's very high in nitrogen and adds a nice nitrogen balance to your compost!!! Our roses LOVE soybean meal out of our cabinet from when we cleaned our cabinets out! We had soybean meal in there as a supplement in breads to increase the protein content, and I composted it along with our wheat flour and other grains.)

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on July 27, 2012
at 02:51 PM

I think how strict you need to be depends on the state of your health. If you have serious health issues, then avoiding them completely is a pretty good idea.

3ab5e1b9eba22a071f653330b7fc9579

(2262)

on July 27, 2012
at 04:05 PM

I wish I could compost here, but there just isnt a way to do it without offending the neighbors, trying to find a place to put trash cans so that we can enjoy our yard is hard enough.

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A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:11 PM

For the most part soy should be avoided. But, a little edamame is not the end of the world.

I really wouldn't worry about the phytic acid. See this question: http://paleohacks.com/questions/80109/are-phytates-phytic-acid-no-longer-an-issue#axzz21pc4mvOK

The phytoestrogen is a real issue, but as always, "the dose makes the poison". Just don't load up on tofu burgers, tofu hot dogs and tofutti. I always have some edamame when we go out for sushi, maybe once every two or three months and I really wouldn't worry about it.

However, if can't get over the feeling that it might be bad for you, then throw it out. The anxiety over it could have a bigger negative effect than the food itself. If you can't enjoy it guilt-free, then don't force yourself to eat because you don't want to waste it.

3ab5e1b9eba22a071f653330b7fc9579

(2262)

on July 27, 2012
at 04:08 PM

We use Fresh and Local CSA from WV, and so far it has been fantastic. We get eggs, veggies and fruit each week for a really good price, they only downside is that you have to pick up at a drop point instead of having it delivered to your house. http://www.freshandlocalcsa.com/

3ab5e1b9eba22a071f653330b7fc9579

(2262)

on July 27, 2012
at 03:57 PM

haha I am pretty sure I wont be loading up on tofu any time soon! n I use Fresh and Local CSA from west virgina, we get eggs, fruit and veggies every week for a pretty reasonable price, the only downside is that you have to go and pick up your CSA at a drop point as opposed to having it delivered. http://www.freshandlocalcsa.com/

3ab5e1b9eba22a071f653330b7fc9579

(2262)

on July 27, 2012
at 04:09 PM

haha I am pretty sure I wont be loading up on tofu any time soon! We use Fresh and Local CSA from west virgina, we get eggs, fruit and veggies every week for a pretty reasonable price, the only downside is that you have to go and pick up your CSA at a drop point as opposed to having it delivered. freshandlocalcsa.com

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:13 PM

What CSA are you using? (I'm in Alexandria too!)

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on July 27, 2012
at 02:50 PM

Should I eat the small bunch of it just this once? I hate wasting food.

That's only if you call soy "food". I differentiate between "stuff you can eat" and "food". Don't eat stuff that's bad for you just because you've been conditioned to think it's "food".

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on July 27, 2012
at 05:52 PM

I wouldn't get preachy about it. He wanted feedback, you tried to lecture him about the (minimal) dangers of limited amounts of soy. Not cool. Next time, just say you'd prefer not to receive it as it's not something you choose to consume.

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